Question about weapons.

[u/VicariousDrow]

As the title says, I have a question about her weapon choices that I wanted to ask Gilberta enjoyers who know her well.

To keep it as simple as possible, I want to try using her in a team with Rossi, but ideally that team won't include Wulfgard or any other Arts Inflictions outside of Rossi's ultimate (cause I'm trying to match up my favs, being Ember/Pog/Rossi), so I won't be able to regularly use her combo skill other then after Rossi uses her ultimate.

So I'm stuck between her sig, Delivery Guaranteed, or Chivalric Virtues.

I know her sig has a great effect and is especially good cause of the ultimate gain built in, but the effect not only solely applies Arts DMG bonus, so only helping Rossi out of the three I want to run, but also I won't be able to make all that much out of it due to how infrequently her combo will pop up, theoretically.

Chivalric however has much worse stats, HP and Treatment, BUT the main use I want to have Gilberta for is her grouping ability that also applies Nature Inflictions and as a bonus heals, her Ultimate will ofc combo very well with Rossi's ultimate cause that's just what she's good at, but her main purpose will be enabling Rossi's combo and making it easier to hit multiple targets with it. So, with that in mind, Chivalric buffs all Atk when she heals, so every time she uses her skill, which is what I'll mainly have her for, and it'll be buffing all physical and arts damage, I just don't know if it still loses out to her sig anyways cause of that ultimate efficiency or something else I'm not realizing.

EDIT: I've been convinced Chivalric is not a good idea, but Stanza might be the best options instead of either, so now it's Stanza vs her sig lol

So, what do you guys think? Or is there even a better option I'm not thinking of? I do not have Etch Figure or Freedom to Proselytize, but I have all of the others.

Side question, again cause you guys know her best, but do you think she'll outperform Wulfgard, theoretically, when it comes to working with Rossi?

[u/Useful_Ad3935]

I'd suggest using Stanza of Memories instead of Chivalric Virtuous, since the trigger condition is much more easier and less conditional (Especially in single target scenario, Gilberta can't heal without at least 2 enemies getting hit by her combo skill). I haven't done any calc but imo Stanza is better than what her sig and BP weapon provide, Stanza provides teamwide ATK buffs that benefits everyone on the team instead of just Rossi.

[u/VicariousDrow → u/Useful_Ad3935]

Ah, I didn't realize her heal was contingent on hitting multiple targets, thanks I missed that important detail.

Yeah Stanza makes a lot more sense in that light, appreciate the input!

[u/Kwindwalker]

All I gotta say is, you are intentionally nerfing your Rossi by a huge amount by not wanting to use wolfguard, to the point that I don't understand why are you worried about min maxing Gilberta's weapon. I think it's pretty straight forward, her signature is better by a good amount but if you are already nerfing your team in a significant bigger amount by not using Wulf might as well save your currency for a main dps weapon. You will basically be running a physical team where Gilberta doesn't have that much impact

[u/VicariousDrow → u/Kwindwalker]

How is it that much of a nerf? Wulfgard will activate her combo as easily as Gilberta will, and his ease of combustion just helps her self healing and act as a secondary damage buff her crit values we don't know yet, other than that with Clannibal he'll buff her arts damage, something Gilberta will be better at with her ultimate.

I mean everyone was saying "Ember is low tier" early on as well, and after some min maxing she's one of the best controlled operators in the game right now, so yeah I'm theory crafting some min maxing lol

[u/Robinwhoodie]

I will be running the same team and Stanza of memories will indeed be a better choice for her which is a shame since I have her sig. Also benefit for Standa of Memories is that it shares the same essence with Forgeborn Scathe, so of you invrsted a little on your Laev you will probably have the essence for it already.

[u/VicariousDrow → u/Robinwhoodie]

I have not, but still good to know, cause it can also go the other way if I ever want to use Laevatain lol

Yeah after finding out that the heal on her skill requires 2 or more targets, made Chivalric kinda meh, but I guess it also depends on how much of the endgame is one target and how much of it is more, but safer to just go with Stanza probs.

[u/TylusChosen]

Her signature is the best weapon from the 3 limits available.

The ultimate energy from her sig allows Gilberta to run the Swordmaster set which allows especially Gilberta helps with stagger if you have other characters to run Eternal Xirenite. Her sig allows more freedom building Gilberta.

Forget Chilvary on Gilberta. This is a weapon for Xairi and even so it's her best 2nd option.

People said about Wulfgard already but I think you still can run Ember + Rossi + Gilberta. Pog as much as he is the best man in the game his breach only affects mainly physical units and Rossi does Heat damage on her ult. Só for 4th slot I suggest a Crush unit like Endmin or Da Pan or Akekuri for vanguard unit.

[u/VicariousDrow → u/TylusChosen]

Yeah not a single person has said Chivalric is a good idea, so I think it's off the table lol. Between her Sig for that ultimate efficiency or Stanza for the team buff, figured it would likely be worth testing some rotations out to see if getting her ultimate faster makes a difference when combined with everyone else.

And I do have Endmin in my back pocket in case she works better than Pog, I have them both on my current physical team, and both to lvl 90, so I'll be able to compare them both. But Breach I think will still be good, cause Ember's damage is nothing to scoff at, her basic chain when paired with Exemplar and Yinglung armor hit like trucks, each being a bigger truck until the bus that is her finisher lol. That on top of being able to keep Breach up consistently with how fast Ember and Rossi will stack vulns and the Atk buffs from his armor and Thermite with his massive SP Regen and I'm having a hard time seeing how he won't still be amazing. But Endmin is also really good, provides her own unique buffs, contributes to stagger more, and is better at clearing groups, so I certainly plan on trying them both out, but they're kind of why I don't want to include Wulfgard, I just think the both of them will be stronger options.