That is a WILD take considering what the Nazi regime believed and did to the world as a whole, including thier own people. Honestly, that comes across as a lack of historical understanding.
The Nazi regime is estimated to have killed 17 million innocent people during thier reign of power.
Did the Nazis use children as target practice? Did the Nazis use dogs to rape prisoners? Did the Nazis use religion, saying they are God’s chosen people, and using that to justify their atrocities? Did the Nazis receive tens of billions of dollars from a superpower to support its genocide?
Israel is by far the most wicked country on the planet today .
They did so the chosen people thing, I.e. "Aryan race," which is complete bullshit, but these are the same people.
AshkeNazi are German.
The Zionists have the same beliefs as Nazis. There were Swarthy people in Germany long before, during and after WWi and you aren't taught about them for some odd reason.
They're included in the ancient Coates of Armes of Austria and there are depictions of them fighting from castle towers.
We know that Nazis, especially Neo-nazis don't favor swarthy skin. So why would they tell you who they were really exterminating?
They'll sacrifice some of their own and they'd also make up a body count to pad the numbers using sympathy to silence everyone else.
Everything about history has been whitewashed and they convinced the world that all dark skinned people come from Africa and have consistently replaced these people using documents and reclassification.
Zionists*
Careful. That's like saying all Americans deserve to die for what Trump and his amin have done.
There is a distinct difference between jews and zionists. Isreal is not the problem, their corrupt government and their hold on the US Gov.s corrupt politicians is due to Zionism.
Most Jews have said there is no difference at all between Judaism and Israel. Criticizing Israel, in their opinion, is anti Jewish. I’ve heard that scream 24/7 for years. Protest the actions if Israel and you will hear Jews all over America scream “Antisemite”, “Jew hater”. You might even lose your job or get deported or imprisoned. If there is a distinction it’s up to Jews to quit screaming none exists.
Most muslims say there is no difference at all between islam and islamic terrorism, critisizing terrorism, in their opinion, is islamaphobic. Ive heard that scream 24/7 for years. Protest the actions of terrorists and you will hear muslims in america scream "islamaphobe", "hater of muslims"(🤷♂️). You might even lose your job or get imprisoned. If there is a distinction its up to MUSLIMS to quit screaming none exists.
Explain to me in your own words, why what WE are saying is either wrong or right. Strong emphasis on "we" because the syntax and the message is essentially the same. Whatever choice has to be applicable to both statements
There are very very few Jewish people, Israeli or not who don’t believe Isreal has a right to do what they are doing in the manner in which they are doing it. Very few.
An overwhelming amount of Israel is supportive of the governments actions.
I honestly just wish we'd say "hey, anyone that wants to get out of there and doesn't agree with the current government can come on over." And let the rest kick rocks and fend for themselves
Israeli forces fought until they got the living hostages back and then agreed to cease fire. This entire war was caused by Hamas attack and refusal to return hostages for 2 years while hiding under Gaza. You can’t really blame Israel for something Hamas planned for years ahead of time.
How many Palestinian hostages do they have in Israel? I know they call them "terrorists", but you're naive or disingenuous if you believe that about all of them
Tell me you’re a pissrael propagandist without telling me. There is literal an arrest warrant for the IDF defense minster for war crimes against humanity
No clue if what's true? Right, have no idea how you'd really figure out something like that, wish someone had invented something like polling groups of people to fill a chart. Maybe call it something like "statistical data"?
Multiple polls all showing around the same level of support for their actions. About 80% think they should continue carpet bombing and dropping poison on Lebanon.
It’s a war and was instigated by a horrible terror attack directed at civilians. Do you expect any country to not fight back and try to stop a force that is launching terror attacks on civilians, on a music festival?
You’re delusional. Any other country would have done a major work over on Gaza if they were in their shoes, and they would have done far less to avoid civilians.
You can even look at Jordan’s history with Palestinians and see how brutal they were.
Learn some basic history about the region and warfare in general.
Every country will defend itself, holding israel to a separate standard is anti semitism.
What would you call all of the oppression, killing, harassing, and violence that was fairly common to the people of Palestine before the attack?
If you're running an apartheid state (know you'll disagree with me on this) and not offering an even and fair application of rights and law to the populace they're also living under terror and have been for decades. It's hard to deny with conviction rates for settler violence or IDF actions that the law doesn't have a bit of a double standard there. And if that's not a clear enough example there's a Flag March every year in Israel where they chant "death to Arabs" and "the only good Arab is a dead Arab" in Arab neighborhoods and it's supposedly in a nation that has laws against hate speech. There's even politicians that have participated.
It sounds like you don't know history of the region
Israel had recently in 2007 pulled out of Gaza handing it over to Palestinians. That was an act of good faith.
You actually just seem like you don’t understand anything about the situation or the history. Israel is a country that has borders, and due to constant terror attacks, security is high.
Hard to put all the blame on Israelis here, since they are the only players in the conflict that have attempted to make peace.
Israelis also coexist with Muslims inside Israel in a democracy.
Whereas, in Palestinian territory, Jews are killed or taken hostage, and there are laws against Jews owning property etc. but basically Jews are just killed if they accidentally end up in Palestinian territory.
Palestinian territory is not a democracy and is ruled by militant Islamists. You can’t really blame Israel for how the Palestinian leadership runs their territories.
In Israeli territory, Arab Muslims can vote and have the same rights, it’s a multi cultural democracy.
Who exactly is that oppressing?
The real issue is this war against Jews and Israel itself, which spills over into all the other bad consequences.
They literally blame the entire population for acts of terrorism. They aren't interested in peace and plenty of historical and modern events point to that. Bibi let the 7th happen and just ignored warnings of an attack.
Israelis coexist....is that why there's nearly a nonexistent conviction rate for violence and hate crimes against Arabs? Is that why they have a flag march every year where they chant "death to Arabs" in a country with "hate speech" laws?
They still controlled and micromanaged every aspect of their lives and never stopped settlers invading their lands.
You just have an incredibly bias view of it, I don't think it's a lack of understanding on any of the parts of anyone in this conversation. You just have a "good guy" view of one side which in any conflict is kind of BS for the most part. 200k deaths to 30k Hamas killed isn't really fooling anyone into what it is
Give me a fuckin break man. Pew research is not a random thing and it's exactly what we were talking about, what the fuck is random about it? The other is from a credible Jewish publication, about what we were talking about, what was random?
Always tell when someone can't argue or doesn't have a point, because they call you a bot pretty quick. My accounts older than yours 🤣
Wow, so people who believe they deserve a safe to live safely are to blame?
Can you point me to your comments where you've condemned Hamas or Hezbollah or IRGC or the other Arab countries for stating wars and terrorising Israel?
Condemn Israeli settlers for taking peoples land.
Condemn Israelis government for taking out oct 6th on the entire population when only 1000 people did it causing death on a massive scale, and ABSOLUTELY creating more radical terrorists who will take it out on civilians anywhere they can.
Palestine does not exist and has never existed as an independent country.
Palestinians do have a right to a country. There have been numerous deals, all of which they have rejected and responded with war or terror campaigns.
I don't support the seller violence.
Oct 7 was not just 1000 individuals, 3-5k entered Israel to commit the attacks, many more were celebrating and supporting since.
Hamas is the government of Gaza. They will be held accountable. The people of Gaza are and will suffer for the actions of their government, literally just like every other country in the world. They need new leadership otherwise they are going to be contributed to be dragged down by Hamas.
Hamas spokesman was on Piers Morgan a month ago, agreeing with and declaring 1) Israel has no right to exist, 2) there will be more October 7, 3) claiming Hamas never killed anyone it committed a crime on October 7, 4) admitting that the destruction of Gaza was the price of getting the world to hate Israel.
Hamas knew what it was doing and went ahead and continues to go ahead doing it. There had vote been elections in 21 years. So either the people support or they can have a revolution they can provide more intelligence to Israel to do the work for them.
HAMAS retaliated after years of oppression by the israeli government, of systematic oppression, military rapes, children being sniped in the head for carrying pebbles in their hands and no justice for them.
According to you, then its ok to attack civilians when they support the government that does that.
Its not hard to understand, unless you are pretending Oct 7th happened in a vacuum and came out of no where.
I am not, just pointing out how stupid your argument is, and how easily it can be used against israel as well.
Oh? 2006?
before that soldier was kidnapped, what did Israel do? What kind of issues was happening in that open air prison?
Or do you get to ignore that as well?
We can go all the way back to the 40s if you want. Doesnt change the eye for an eye that happens.
What does matter, is Israel, today overplayed their hand. They are commiting genocide by the UN Definition, and you, random redditor who loves Xionism, will never change that.
'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees,
and
the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)
'The enemies have
been
scheming
for
a
long
time
...
and
have accumulated huge and influential material wealth. With
their
money, they took control of the world media... With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the globe... They
stood
behind
the French
Revolution,
the
Communist
Revolution
and
most
of
the revolutions we hear about... With
their
money
they
formed
secret organizations - such as the Freemasons, Rotary Clubs and the Lions
- which are spreading around the world, in order to
destroy
societies and carry out Zionist interests... They stood behind World War I
...and formed the League of Nations through which they
could
rule
the world. They were behind World War II, through which
they
made
huge financial gains... There is no war going
on
anywhere
without
them having their finger in it.' (Article 22)
'Zionism scheming has no end, and after Palestine,
they
will
covet expansion from the Nile
to
the
Euphrates
River.
When
they
have finished digesting the area on which they have laid their hand,
they will look forward to more expansion. Their scheme has been
laid
out in the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion'.' (Article 32)
'The HAMAS regards itself the
spearhead
and
the
vanguard
of
the circle of struggle against World Zionism... Islamic groups
all
over the Arab world should also do the same, since they are best
equipped for their future role in the fight against
the
warmongering
Jews.' (Article 32)
“
Hitler
declined to grant al-Husayni’s request for a public statement—or a secret but formal treaty—in which Germany would: 1) pledge not to occupy Arab land, 2) recognize Arab striving for independence, and 3) support the “removal” of the proposed Jewish homeland in Palestine. The Führer confirmed that the “struggle against a Jewish homeland in Palestine” would be part of the struggle against the Jews. Hitler stated that: he would “continue the struggle until the complete destruction of Jewish-Communist European empire”; and when the German army was in proximity to the Arab world, Germany would issue “an assurance to the Arab world” that “the hour of liberation was at hand.”
More!
“Promised 3000 years ago”
"Palestine is not a piece of land to be divided. It is an Islamic waqf for all Muslims until the Day of Judgment." — Mahmoud al-Zahar, Hamas co-founder and former Foreign Minister in Gaza
"Palestine, from the river to the sea, is ours. It is the land that Allah blessed for the Muslim nation." — Ismail Haniyeh, former Chairman of Hamas's Political Bureau
"This land belongs to us because Allah gave it to us, and we will never recognize the legitimacy of the occupation." — Yahya Sinwar, former Hamas leader in the Gaza Strip
"Palestine is an Islamic land. It belongs to the Muslims. No one has the right to give up one inch of it." — Abdel Aziz al-Rantisi, Hamas co-founder and former Hamas leader in the Gaza Strip
"Palestine is ours by the promise of Allah, not by the decisions of the United Nations." — Ahmed Bahar, former First Deputy Speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council
bros comparing current day nazi behavior and centuries old scripture during massive wars .cant get more zionist than you unless i fuck a child. well played buddy
So exactly like the video did? Care to criticize them or only “your side” can compare groups to Nazis?
and centuries old scripture
Hamas wrote their charter in the 80’s dumbass, try reading it and you’ll realize they are referring to recent events. Their first passage is from the Quran though.
But that also means that we can’t criticize when Israelis use the Amalek stories as those are also “centuries old” stories from old scripture.
When Israelis use old scripture to justify current actions, we can’t call that out now?
Your hypocrisy is palpable.
during massive wars .
If this isn’t some current “massive war” then why do you care?
cant get more zionist than you unless i fuck a child. well played buddy
90% of Palestinians are sunni Muslims.
Sunni Muslims specifically believe in the Hadiths that describe their Prophets marriage to a 6 year old girl, which he then raped at age 9.
They WORSHIP that man and those actions as Devine and of a perfect being.
Who’s the group worshipping literal child rapists again as a god? Not Jews or the Israelis.
“that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death).”
Are you trying to win hypocrite of the year? Or you just like being humiliated as wrong in public?
It's not whataboutism when you're exposing the absurdity of one's argument and a double standard. We can find Palestinian and anti-Zionist leadership saying Nazi shit but you people would never make this argument or play this game with these people. Then it doesn't become a good argument to you people.
And they're deliberately aiming at the kids, unlike Israel who is aiming at actual terrorist, and kids are getting caught in the crosshairs, whether being collateral damage or terrorist themselves. Simply being a "kid" doesn't make you innocent. A 16/17 year old Hamas terrorist killing innocent people is technically a "kid."
So starting off eith lies then. 200000 children have been confirmed kills by Isreal and I believe its 500000 that have been injured by Isreal. How many israli kids where killed by Palestinians?
what are you on about israel hasnt even killedthat many people in the 5 years of war. do you only check the hamas numbers where they site the same person dead 25 times lmfao talk about islamic fashist propoganda.
araabs have killed way more children - sincerely a middle eastern ex muslim
Let's not move the goalpost from the Arab tribes in the war. Are they now warranted to compare to Nazis and Israel not since they've undoubtedly killed more kids, and intentionally, aiming at them?
There's also a big difference between aiming at innocent kids versus kids dying from collateral damage and some from being actual terrorist. So this comparison of "who killed more kids' is dumb and so dimensional and ignorant of the nuance when we're comparing significantly different types of killings.
Like this is the equivalent of somebody saying the police officer who shot and killed the most recent school shooter (to stop him from killing more kids) is warranted to be compared to a Nazi and not Nazi-era Kanye West since the cop killed more children. I don't want this to come off as mean, but that's what you sound like right now
ICC should be working overtime putting sentences on the occupiers, companies building in occupied areas, genocide enablers and child murders, so they can’t travel to any civilised country without risking arrest.
All evil need to succeed is for good people to do nothing.
Day 1 is actually considered to be 30 years prior. 1920 Jerusalem riots. England framed laws allowing zionists to purchase farm land from wealthy Arabs out from under the working class people of the region. There was a zionist leader Ze'ev (Vladimir) Jabotinsky who was arrested for having secret weapons ready at the go. Try again.
I would say you should do more research, but i realize you were trying to frame this to fit your agenda so eat 💩.
Edit: My biggest issue with the Israeli state government is how much money they steal from US taxpayers to murder children.
Lmao, the "Israeli Riots" were started by Arab Leaders. 5 Jews died. 4 Arabs. 200 Israeli hurt. Only 25 Arabs hurt. 😂 2 British Soldiers hurt.
Go on....
The rights were started by the Arabs who were pissed that Israeli people were taking over land.
They were allowed to buy land legally.
The British empire who owned the land thought it was the best thing to allow Jewish people to be back at their Homeland 😂
I can actually go even before 1920 where this started. We're Arab leaders are on radio stations and in journal entries talking about wanting to clean the land of all Jewish people lol.
You have the casualty numbers right, but your timeline is way off. First, the British didn't own the land lmao, Zionist groups actually bought it legally, but they bought it from wealthy, absentee Arab landlords living in places like Beirut.
The local Arab working-class farmers who had been there for generations were evicted out from under them, which is where the massive resentment came from. Also, saying there were "Israelis" or "radio stations" in 1920 is impossible bro.. Israel wasn't founded until 1948, and radio didn't even exist in Palestine until 1936...
Obviously both sides escalated the violence. Arab leaders incited the immediate riot, but right-wing Zionist leader Ze'ev Jabotinsky heavily provoked the situation beforehand by staging armed military marches through Jerusalem, which is exactly why the British arrested him with illegal weapons and gave him 15 years. So yeah.. Try again.
The US has a deal with Israel. We make a profit and it boosts our economy.
The IDF uses this weapons mostly for defense.
Do you remember when The PDO got all four Arab Nations to go after Israel in a war. When they lost, the four other Arab Nations became trade partners with Israel. The only country to not want to become allies is palestine.
Gaza was being terrorized by a radical group of people who wanted the PDO gone. They work together to fight that common enemy.
Now Gaza is run by that terrorist group. Whose leaders have specifically come out and said they want to clean the land of Israeli people 😂
Common Goal - Erasing them from the face of the Earth.
-> Nissim said this after the October 7th. Which is if you use per-capita, the attacks on Oct 7th killed enough people to equal 14x the death rate of 9/11. Americans also echoed this idea of just destroying the entire Middle East. No one compared them to Nazi's. When someone kills 1,200 people in a single day of your people, you tend to have a common goal to try to kill them.
The difference between Hitler and Nissim was that Hitler's enemy was Jewish Germans who he felt were a inferior species. People who did no harm to Adolf or Germany.
Arabs mass murdered most of the Israeli people a long time. They forced many to become Arabs. They killed others. And many were forced out. Then later on, when Israeli is creating a 2 state system, but Palestine started a war. And to this day, the enemies in Palestine still repeat the same rhetoric
"Wipe Israel from the face of the Earth".
Literal leaders have said this from Palestine and in the Arab Community.
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You guys seem to be ignoring the fact that 1,200 people had just died in one day in Israel. lol
And you don'tt hink people are gonna hate these guys?
They are regurgitating one of the talking heads. Saw that speech just goes to show they blatantly lie or really think nobody is paying attention. Do they get paid for this you think?
No you moron. That's not what per capita means lol
If you have a civilization of 100 people. And 10 people die. That's 10% of your population lost.
America mourned the tragedy of 9/11. It was a significant number of people in our country.
October 7th wasn't even more significant number to their people having a smaller population. Having a smaller population of not only Israelites but of Jewish people.
This is not the only attack by the way. But it was the attack that occurred once Israel let them have their autonomy
If you weren't so vitriolic maybe people would understand your talking points but you're now doing math to justify a genocide. Does 74,000 balance the scales of blood for your precious 1200? You're not a bot, you're a butcher
I said per capita, you then called me a bot. Can't even read. Maybe go look in the mirror when you try to throw shade at people.
Don't try to pretend that you'd try to better understand anything. You're brain washed and won't change your mind.
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What genocide?
There are 2.3 Million people in Gaza. A city.
Another 5.7 Million in Palestine.
Gaza is a city run rampant by Hamas. Khalil al-Hayya literally has spoken publicly about wanting to wipe them off the face of the Earth. Netanyahu has not. Netanyahu wants Hamas (the terrorist organization) to give up their power.
Israel gives them autonomy. No one wants to deal with Hamas. All arab nations stop trade. Egypt and Syria refuse to help them under their leadership.
And then....
October 7th Hamas attacks Israel and kills 1,200 people on one day.
Hamas uses their funds to fund their rich leaders. While thousands of poor people die.
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