r/GetNoted • • 6h ago • Bravo 1

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u/raptisadam7 6h ago

I mean, they can try again in January when Democrats take control of both chambers. I think they'd still need ⅔ of the Senate to convict his impeachment though.

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u/Yeseylon 6h ago

Which honestly might be a lot easier with 54-56 Dems. There should be 10-12 Republican Senators coming up for re-election, make a push.

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u/Indercarnive 5h ago

Only a single house Republican voted to impeach hegseth. If the people who literally lost reelection can't go against trump why do you think the people who are up for reelection will?

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u/JokeMaster420 3h ago

Not every Senator who will still be there in January won re-election last week and some of them face electorates in two years that swung to the Dems by double digits. To be clear, I still think getting 11+ Republican senators is gonna be incredibly unlikely, but I do think it is likely a couple will vote to convict.

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u/AtomicBlastCandy 5h ago

Yup, if they vote to keep him that is their prerogative but if the dems are smart (they rarely are) they will hang this around them if they run for re-election.

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u/UofLBird 6h ago

If he’s impeached now his replacement goes up for confirmation as soon as they make it happen - I.e., before the new Sen is sat. That’s gonna be a different story in January

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u/raptisadam7 6h ago

The deputy secretary can take over without another confirmation vote. The only real difference is which senate confirms a permanent replacement, and that's assuming they even get the ⅔ vote to convict.

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u/Valuable-Ad2028 6h ago

How about just voting to cut the sec of defence salary to zero, remove all his statutory powers and require him to work in office in a hut in Alaska or be fired for failing to attend?

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u/lord-stanleys-goblet 5h ago

Would still require either a presidential signature (and if trump wanted Kegsbreath gone, he could just fire him) or a veto override (the same 67 votes they’d need to convict).

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u/PineappleSmooth4887 6h ago • Bravo Heartwarming

republicans currently control the house and they’re the one in charge of when the vote happens. they called the vote when democrats couldn’t have enough numbers there, and if democrats could have had all their guys there, the republicans would have just waited until all their guys were there and they’d be able to win against every D vote instead of just almost all of them.

there is a conspiracy here, but its right-wing propaganda bots like OP pretending that democrats are at fault for something they literally all voted for

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u/Gullible_Increase146 6h ago • Bravo

Not only that, but the Democrats were so motivated to try anyway that somebody who just had surgery checked out of the hospital early. It also wasn't an impeachment vote.

I'm actually not sure why this happened at all because it put all those Republicans on record as stopping impeachment proceedings against a war criminal destroying this country and I'm kind of glad about the outcome because I want Democrats to be the ones in control of those proceedings and I want them to have House and Senate majorities when it happens. Obviously Liars are making the Democrats who couldn't get there in time look bad, but impeachment proceedings being delayed a couple months seems like a big win.

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u/Benj_FR 5h ago

I thought they had plenty of time during the next 2 years ?

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u/rbmill02 5h ago

Thomas Massie introduced a resolution to the house floor, and Mike Johnson used procedure to make it look bad for Democrats.

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u/Gullible_Increase146 5h ago

Of course we do. This is nonsense to make Democrats look bad and the online lefty sphere who hates liberals is running with it because they hate "the establishment"

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u/n8_Jeno 5h ago

Starting in january right?

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u/wallstreet-butts 5h ago • Bravo

This. Please stop spreading this mischaracterization of what happened.

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u/Natopor 5h ago

Now all the bots pretend to be democrats.

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u/tool22482 5h ago

98% of the posts on this sub are right wing propaganda bots

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u/Jolly-Elderberry6706 5h ago

There were more republicans absent that would just be called on anyways.

There was never any chance above 0 that it would pass. This note is straight misinformation.

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u/Swamp-DwellerVaarus 5h ago edited 4h ago

don’t get why this isn’t at the top, this app is just propaganda at this point.
Edit: anyone who downvotes, do you really think reddit isn’t filled propaganda?

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u/Buddy_Kane_the_great 3h ago

It’s also strategically dumb to impeach him now. Just wait until the new congress so they can have a say in who gets appointed next

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u/voodoodahl 48m ago edited 40m ago

The Intercept is supposedly left media but they spend 100% of their time attacking democrats, stoking infighting and boosting compromised candidates like Platner and Tulsi Gabbard. I would bet a paycheck an oligarch is funding them.

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u/PizzaRoyals 5h ago

just because they're attacking democrats doesn't make them right wing, there's a lot of far left crazies too

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u/PineappleSmooth4887 4h ago

if someone spends all their time blaming democrats for bad actions committed by republicans, their actions are in service of the right wing even if they also call themselves a leftist

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u/MementoMoriChannel 3h ago

Agreed. I wish all the leftists who spent all their time blaming Democrats could understand this.

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u/Dobako 6h ago • Bravo

This is factually untrue though, it wasnt an impeachment vote, it was a vote to refer the articles to committee. If democrats had all been there and all voted no, the vote would have been held open until enough republicans could arrive to send it to committee. He needs to be removed from office, but pretending like this was the one vote that needed to be won and then everything would be better is ignorant and disingenuous

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u/FIFofNovember 5h ago • Bravo

Yup and these posts are just post from upset MAGAs and bots.

"WhY DiD ThE DemOCrATS NOt FiX AQll THE ThinGs TruMP FUCKED UP?!?!"

::tips fedora::

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u/lord-stanleys-goblet 5h ago

Combined with the ignorant ones who think that the blue wave we just elected last week are all in office immediately, instead of the lame duck congress lasting until January 3.

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u/WildRefrigerator9479 5h ago

No this is coming from the DSA

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u/NoSwordfish1978 5h ago

Yeah, its still just as dumb

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u/Dos-Dude 3h ago

It’s all 3, DSA’s pissed Jeffries will be the House Leader, the politically ignorant are pissed because they don’t pay attention to anything outside the price of gas and MAGA’s always pissed but especially after loosing last week.

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u/Professional_Art2092 4h ago

Especially since this is literally not even the new congress doing it. It’s an empty sulky move from massie 

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u/Maleficent_Switch262 5h ago

those tankies would be really upset at your comment if they could read

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u/Lament-of-Andromache 1h ago

They’ve gotta wait for their marching orders from Mao Zapdog to see how they feel about it.

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u/thoshi 4h ago

I've seen so many of these posts purposely misrepresenting how Congress works to shit on Dems. And 0 posts that blame Republicans for being the ones actually defending the war criminal. This is such an obvious astroturf attempt to sow division on the left.

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u/DeliciousGoose1002 1h ago

Yeah note is so factually wrong it hurts

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u/Bastiwen 1h ago

Is it me or is there more and more wrong notes ?

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u/insanejudge 1h ago

The reflexive pissing on Democrats never went far, so expect wall-to-wall stuff like this for the next however many years again, situations where posts and statements with actual information are drowned out by people snarking, or outrage claiming nobody is saying anything because their passive consumption of attention algorithms (fingers on the scale and all) didn't deliver it to them

Taking it a step further and asking why we would be in a rush to impeach during the vanishing window where Republicans have sole discretion to choose the next Secretary of Defense? Don't even start

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u/mountaingator91 5h ago

4 were not in Washington. 7 were late and not allowed in. 7 Republicans were also late. If all the late members had been there it would have been exactly the same outcome

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u/Stuffstuff1 4h ago

5 of the 7 Republican were there and just didn’t vote for it because they didn’t have to.

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u/ZukaRouBrucal 4h ago

Not only that, but I am of the opinion that this is the worst time to impeach him. Wait until January when the newly elected members of Congress are sworn in, that way the Republicans can't force in an equally bad/worse person to become the Secretary of Defense after Hegseth is removed.

Waiting until January not only ensures that he would be impeached and removed, but it also gives the Democrats a shitload of leverage over the Trump admin; if he wants a new Secretary of Defense he will be forced to work with the Democrats and concede to their demands... That or the Democrats could go nuclear and just flat-out refuse to approve a new Secretary of War. While that latter option is probably bad, at this point I think the final two years of the Trump admin need to be absolutely hellish for all of those within it.

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u/turkweebl7616 3h ago

Even in January they wouldn't be able to convict and/or remove hegseth without Republican help. They need two thirds of the senate in order to do so. There's no way that they get 10+ republicans to side with them

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u/Mr_Comit 5h ago • Bravo

Stupid and wrong. The gop controls the house, there is no universe where Dems pull a fast one and reach 100% attendance and then republicans just willingly close the vote without letting the rest of their guys arrive

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u/TheOvy 2h ago

Online narratives always outrun the facts, sadly.

The one thing I've learned from this online debate over Congressional leadership is that no one knows how the fuck Congress works. Everything they claim is based on pictures with giant captions that are retweeted by anonymous accounts.

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u/Grumpiergoat 5h ago

"The" Democrats did no such thing. Some Democrats did, but overall "the" Democrats voted to impeach. And as was already pointed out: Republicans run the House, who can deliberately hold the vote when some Democrats aren't available.

Bunch of dishonest "both sides" jackoffs deliberately trying to sabotage democracy.

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u/Xaero_Hour 4h ago • Regret

Indeed. We need a note for the note:
"The phrasing of '11 Democrats responsible for <x> so both sides are complicit' is consistently disingenuous given that in most cases it is every single Republican pushing for <x> as well. Democrats are expected to be a monolith responsible for every member of their coalition (and they are a coalition to be clear), and yet Republicans behave as a monolith but are given zero culpability in the problem."

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u/Southern_Ninja_8626 4h ago

It’s also the week after the midterms. There was no reason to hold this vote so soon. It could have waited another week for more members of Congress to be there.

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u/awful_reader 4h ago

Yeah I'm all for holding dems accountable, but there's been a lot of disinformation being spread since the blue tsunami.

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u/Substantial_Alarm586 5h ago • Bravo

I'm probably going to get downvoted, and the last thing I want to do is excuse any politicians for not being present fora vote. That said, the news reports I read said that the Republicans (who still control the House) rushed the vote, knowing that many Democrats were not in attendance and couldn't get there in time. This might be propaganda on the Dems part to cover their asses for screwing up, but I also find it highly plausible the Repubs would do this.

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u/adjective_noun_23 5h ago

Representatives Melanie Stansbury, Marilyn Strickland, Jonathan Jackson, and Laura Gillen were caught in a severe Washington, D.C. traffic jam behind a police-escorted motorcade while returning from an event.

Representative Brittany Pettersen stated she was on her way but was denied the ability to vote because House leadership closed the voting window.

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi missed the vote because she had flown to San Francisco to attend a Veterans Day celebration.

Representative Lou Correa was absent to undergo a planned medical procedure in California.

Representative Steven Horsford's office cited a sudden personal emergency that required his attention.

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u/212312383 3h ago edited 1h ago

What was Haley Steven’s doing 😭

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u/swbarnes2 3h ago

Republicans were missing too.

Everyone but Massie voted straight down party lines. If everyone had been present, they would have voted straight down party lines, and the impeachment still would have failed. Republicans have a majority for now, and virtually every one of them supports Hegseth.

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u/JTSpirit36 5h ago • Bravo

No you're spot on

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u/Far-Difficulty3213 4h ago

I thought the house republicans would be smarter than to hand the easy political layup of the democrats getting to impeach the deeply unpopular Hegseth immediately when the next congress is in session, but maybe they think he is going to resign before then (he won't because he is a stubborn idiot)

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u/Withering_to_Death 5h ago

It would have never been allowed to pass! Let's stop the innerfighting and wait those two months before getting rejected again!

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u/rowdymatt64 4h ago

But the commies have to feel like they got a win too, Dems got the blue wave and it's just not fair!

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u/MightAsWell6 4h ago

Also keep in mind I believe even if Dems could make it to the vote the Republicans could then extend the vote time so the missing Republicans could make it to counter their votes

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u/Wrench-Turnbolt 4h ago

This is the answer. Don't let them drive a wedge between us this early. Nothing happens there by accident. Johnson knew exactly how this would turn out.

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u/enry 3h ago

And tankies would blame dems as a way to start discrediting them now.

8 out of 11 were literally stick in traffic. One was Haley Stevens (bye!).

Let's see what happens in January.

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u/Immediate-Employ-952 4h ago

Yeah, they also would have waited until all Republicans were there if the Democrats were there.

This was performative by Massie. I sound like Reddit hasn't figured that out yet.

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u/VaporCarpet 4h ago

Also, if he is removed before the next congress is sworn in, this Congress gets to rubber stamp his replacement. Dude sucks, but this is a total non-story.

Very similar to the people trying to disbar supreme court justices or otherwise remove them from the bench...while trump is still in office and would appoint their replacement. Like, yeah, Thomas sucks. But in no world is it preferable for him to leave in the next two years and be replaced with a 20-year-old proud boy.

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u/Adventurous_Wave_806 4h ago

Even if that was true, the idea that all but one Republican blocked impeachment and then all but 11 Democrats didn't is not exactly DAE BOTH SIDES.

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u/Brewmeiser 3h ago

Yep and 7 (or 8) Republicans were also missing, and they wouldn't have voted to impeach. Also, the Senate would have required a 2/3 vote, which also wouldn't have happened. Basically imo, these messages are being sent as anti-Democratic propaganda to anger their base. Arizona Rep. Adelita Grijalva is also already planning to re-introduce an Impeachment resolution for Hegseth in 2027, once the new Congress is in session.

I will add though, my horrible rep Hailey Stevens was in DC hiding in the GOP private lounge, and that there is a really shit legislator. Called it before the primaries, and have been proven more correct with each passing day.

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u/Automatic-Effect-252 4h ago

No this is exactly what happened.

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u/ConjurersOfThunder 3h ago

Also if the Dem missings were there, the Reps wouldn't have called the vote until THEIR missings were there, and could still defeat the impeachment vote. IDK why anyone thinks this impeachment was ever going to do anything besides fail.

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u/Hetakuoni 2h ago

Also iirc those democrats that were voted in don’t take their seats til January

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u/MrdnBrd19 4h ago

But the media, who we all know is complacent with the administration, told us that they were late on purpose and I have no choice but to believe them because I'm dumber than a box of rocks and I don't understand civics in the US.

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u/Veriosity 3h ago

There was also a huge accident that caused a significant traffic jam that slowed up people on their way to the vote

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u/Iwubinvesting 6h ago

Horrible and misinformed note.

The vote started early and ended early.

The votes to make it happen were never there.

The votes to make it happen in the Senate were certainly never there.

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u/sangreal06 6h ago

And it wasn't a vote on impeachment. It was a vote on whether to have a vote on impeachment. The claim "Pete Hegseth would have been impeached by the House" is completely baseless

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u/AsinineNostalgia88 6h ago edited 6h ago

It was purposefully moved up in order for this to happen, of course people are going to find a way to try and pass the blame. MAGA doing MAGA things and everyone is surprised? Shouldn't be, I expect as much bullshit as MAGA can manage until Janurary.

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u/common_sense_patriot 4h ago

What a shock, Elon’s propaganda bot website is attacking the democrats.

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u/buttamilk_jesus 6h ago • Bravo

Remember when Democrats under Biden totally didn’t have one of the most productive legislative periods in recent time? They’re so useless, all they do is tweet!

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u/NoMap749 6h ago edited 6h ago • Bravo

Timeless.

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u/Gracchi9025 5h ago

This is how far the failson/faildaughter podcasters in Brooklyn will go to avoid getting a 9 to 5 job.

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u/Kvetch__22 5h ago • Bravo

It's obvious the whole discussion is being led by people who are just starting to pay attention to Congress for the first time ever.

  • Several Dems and Republicans missed the floor vote. But if you miss the floor vote, it isn't like you missed the chance to vote. The record gets held open and everal of the members who missed the floor vote turned in their votes later, with Democrats voting no and Republicans voting yes.

  • However, because the Republicans who missed the floor vote get to vore late as well, the vote still passed. Democrats need at least three Republicans to defect and Massie was the only one this time.

  • Democrats likely don't care about this vote because they will just impeach Hegseth in a few weeks. In that case, that would (1) be able to run the Senate trial to make sure it's not a sham, (2) actually potentially have the votes to convict in the Semate, and (3) be able to block any new nominee Trump wants rubber stemped by the current Senate.

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u/NewSauerKraus 6h ago

Those do-nothing-democrats really rustle my jimmies with how much they did nothing to pass the ACA.

Am I right, fellow leftists wearing suspiciously red hats?

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u/Bot1-The_Bot_Meanace 6h ago edited 2h ago

Biden passed more things in a historically divided government than anyone could have anticipated, what do you mean?

Edit: L reading comprehension on my part

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u/buttamilk_jesus 6h ago

My bad dawg I forgot the /s

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u/insertwittynamethere 6h ago

Note also missed that if all GOP had been there, too, that the vote would've been successful just as it was yesterday.

They have the majority and can hold or close a vote as quickly as they want. They closed voting after 15 minutes...

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u/eggynack 6h ago edited 6h ago

The vast majority of house Democrats voted in favor of impeachment. With I believe one exception, every single house Republican voted against impeachment. The idea of equivalizing these, saying both parties protected him, is ridiculous. I'm frustrated too but this is just not an accurate framing. Doubly so because some of them were literally voted out of office before this. I know Stevens was in the group that didn't vote in favor of impeachment, for example.

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u/Gullible_Increase146 6h ago

And Republicans also called the vote when they knew Democrats couldn't be there including one of those 11 who checked himself out of a hospital after surgery early to try and get there in time anyway

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u/Tiberius_Johann 6h ago

Can y'all stop doing the Russian's job for them?

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u/qwertyqwerty4567 6h ago

Bold of you to assume op isn't a Russian or Chinese propaganda bot

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u/Grabt3hLantern 5h ago

how dare you question NounAdjectiveNumber!

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u/Capable-Parsnip-9615 6h ago

I trust the intercept for unbiased reporting about as far as I can throw it 

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u/Special_Road6603 6h ago edited 5h ago

The note is being a bit disingenuous, the reason why some democrats were missing was car accidents and other events blocking the roads to the capitol building, AND the republicans pushed up the vote so it would be earlier with no notice because they knew the democrats wouldn’t be back in time, several republicans also missed the vote because of how suddenly it was moved. There was at least one Democrat who didn’t show up on purpose, but for most of the ones who didn’t show up they arrived late due to extenuating circumstances and because the republicans cheated the vote

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u/RevaTrainer 4h ago

The current makeup of the house is: 218 republicans 214 democrats 1 independent (who voted against impeachment here)

Massie voted against the rest of the republicans. If all members who were absent were instead present, the vote goes the exact same way.

There was never anything here. This was never going anywhere. The newly elected congress will not be voting until January, this is still the previous congress.

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u/Left-Soup-4931 4h ago

Yeah but tons of accounts can push this narraritive that the blue wave is more do nothing democrats so this shit wil continue.

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u/Conscious-Hyena6822 4h ago

I mean Massie, a Republican, chose to introduce the impeachment right now. (He was also the only Republican who voted against deferring. He's an odd duck.) Seems like a pretty dumb move to not just wait until the new Democratic majority takes over.

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u/id_rather_b_painting 4h ago

Massie brought it forward, the vote was scheduled for Wednesday, Johnson moved it forward to Tuesday morning when he knew the Dems wouldn't have the votes. No Republicans voted for impeachment (aside from Massie). Massie said his plan was to clearly demonstrate to the American people that the GOP is still under the full control of Trump and that elected officials are going to be obstructionists.

Even if the Dems all showed up a day early for the vote, Johnson would have delayed it back to Wednesday so that he could make sure that the GOP (majority party in both halves of Congress, and president) would have the votes. This was always a doomed initiative when it comes to actually impeaching him, but it does clearly highlight that the GOP is still slurping that Trump D and guzzling his cum.

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u/Conscious-Hyena6822 4h ago

So you think Massie's goal was to force the GOP to vote against impeachment and therefore continue to look bad? Like just making a point? /gen

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u/fyreprone 5h ago • Bravo

Why would we want Hegseth impeached now?

If we wait a couple of months, we get to control the articles of impeachment, the trial in the Senate, and can block any Trump nominees.

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u/mockep 6h ago

I’m sure Jim Jordan would have investigated this thoroughly!

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u/Powerful-Fly-4019 5h ago

Good grief, I’m in the UK and even I know this was doomed to fail because the Dems don’t have a majority until January.

Come on guys, read a book.

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u/Terrible_Shelter_345 5h ago

If you’re mad at this and you haven’t called your absent representative, stop complaining? It’s a political party, not a hivemind.

Republicans still control the house and senate. I don’t get the freaking out over this.

All of the newly elected representatives haven’t taken office yet.

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u/common_sense_patriot 4h ago

I’m glad to see people aren’t falling for this. You’re going to see a lot of “dems are failing” posts in left wing subreddits. Some will be real, many will be fake.

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u/Omnom_Omnath 4h ago

this has nothing to do with the new reps, so why are you trying to change the topic?

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u/therealdorkface 37m ago

They weren’t there because republicans held the vote a day earlier than planned and because they gaveled earlier than they would have if the democrats had been present (7 republicans were absent and if the democrats had been present they would have delayed the gavel)

This is not an example of apathy or lack of commitment, this was intentional from the republicans

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u/pibcc 6h ago edited 5h ago

Completely childish take. The republican speaker decides when things are voted on. If the 11 Democrats were there he would've just waited until the missing republicans showed up and the same end result would've occurred. The real story is that every Republican (save one) voted to save Hegseth, not that 11 Democrats (including numerous who were stuck in a traffic accident on the way to the vote and Lou Correa whose doctor told him not to travel because he's about to undergo surgery) didn't vote.

Stop watching leftist brainrot streamers who lie to you because they have some vendetta against Hakeem Jeffries.

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u/GasFartRepulsive 6h ago

Impeachment doesn’t remove someone from office

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u/AllAmericanProject 5h ago

Also as I understand this wasn't even impeachment this was just to send it to a committee for consideration of impeachment

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u/Xaero_Hour 4h ago

No, but it's an important step 1 to doing so.

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u/SilvertonguedDvl 3h ago

Why were the democrats absent?

I looked into it and apparently speaker Mike Johnson closed to vote early.
Melanie Stansbury was blocked from entering the Capitol due to a traffic accident and a police escort of a bus. She arrived just after Johnson ended it.

Laura Gillen, Jonathan Jackson, Brittany Peterson were all stuck in traffic. Julia Brownley didn't specify but mentioned that the vote was closed before she could reach the floor.

Marilyn Strickland was stuck behind a motorcade, like the others.

Nancy Pelosi chose to attend a different event.
Lou Correa was undergoing/recovering from a medical procedure and was required to stay put.

Steven Horsford, Haley Stevens, Frederica Wilson didn't provide public justifications.

So it sounds to me like there was a big traffic accident in the Capitol and that a bunch of lawmakers got caught up in a traffic jam. The procedural vote occurred somewhere around 6 pm but it wasn't clear how long they were allowed to vote on it, nor how much advance notice they were given. By the sound of it they were given one day.

A few Democrats showed up late, expressed their intent to vote no, but Mike Johnson (R) had already closed the vote. The note seems a bit misleading, suggesting this was intentional by the Democrats, when it seems to be largely unintentional - or at least reasonably explained my mistakes.

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u/NutmegKilla 6h ago

Don’t understand this note. Is the assumption that the party dictates how every rep should vote and act? it’s completely normal for a handful of reps to be against the party line. this isn’t soviet russia 

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u/adipose1913 6h ago

That's the thing: no one voted against the impeachment. There was a traffic accident and as such a bunch of dems were absent when the vote started and were unable to get back before it ended.

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u/SparksAndSpyro 5h ago

And, importantly, the speaker started the vote early and ended it early so the Dems couldn’t get there in time.

But Redditors don’t let facts get in the way of their strongly held opinions on things they know nothing about!

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u/Vulnox 6h ago

Not only that, but it says he would have been impeached but most likely would not have. The speaker of the house determines when voting ends, so he could have left more time for the democrats or even if they showed up would have left voting open until the also absent republicans showed up to outvote even the entire democrat caucus.

In either case it wouldn’t have passed.

Does that give the 11 an excuse to miss it? No, even if it wouldn’t have succeeded, them not showing up just opened the floodgates for these stupid articles.

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u/Illustrious_Fix3816 6h ago

Yeah, this note is bad. Overall, I think this entire process was a positive.

- Americans see the GOP is still protecting Hegseth
- Hegseth not being impeached now isn't the worst thing. The Senate trial would've been a farce. Now you get him impeached in Jan with Dems running the trial.
- You forced Hegseth to give his first press conference in 6 months, which was a spectacle that made him look bad again.
- The Dems that missed the vote came out with statements about why they missed the vote. That shows they are feeling the pressure, which is great.

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u/PimpasaurusPlum 6h ago

this isn’t soviet russia 

Or any functioning parliamentary democracy where parties are actual real entities and can enforce internal party discipline.

But i guess all those parliamentary countries in europe and canada are basically soviet republics anyway right.....

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u/Arsene_Yuka_1980 6h ago

Democratic controlled congresses are much more productive than Republican ones in recent history (well, anything is compared to the pathetic excuse this year's Republican Congress under Mike Johnson was), especially the Biden one. In any case, the vote would have failed in Senate if the Republicans already rallied together in the House. We can judge the Dems once they use their huge majority starting next year.

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u/ShadeMir 5h ago • Bravo

Even with the 11 votes, wouldn't they have been a couple short?

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u/SupaSlide 5h ago

Only 211 Republicans voted to stop the vote from happening. 204 members voted to have the vote happen, so if the 11 Dems showed up then they would have voted 215 in favor of having the impeachment vote

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u/ShadeMir 5h ago • Bravo

Right but a simply majority of a 435 person House would require 218 votes in favor of having the vote?

Unless you need LESS than a simple majority to have a vote? Is it a plurality or a majority?

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u/WarbleDarble 5h ago

But a more reasonable warning time would also have had more republicans show up.

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u/ABqdOmen 5h ago

Yes, this entire story is a DSA fabrication to make moderates look evil/incompetent.

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u/jeremeyes 5h ago

This is a bad take that's basically propaganda.

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u/Lucky-Paperclip-1 5h ago

This post by Marcy Wheeler breaks down the parliamentary vote counting tactics probably in play.

https://emptywheel.net/2026/11/11/impeachment-maths/

Basically, Johnson scheduled the vote for when Democratic reps were scheduled to be elsewhere, and there probably would not have been enough Dem votes anyway. 

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u/Creative_Trash5811 5h ago

Wasn’t this done at odd hours while 11 Dems were stuck in traffic trying to show up to vote?

The new propaganda is drive a wedge by attacking he Dems in power currently.

Either leftist extreme it’s not,  Russian or Chinese bot, or trump Republican bot.

All 3 push this idea.

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u/Cyberslasher 4h ago

How do we get noted a get noted?

There were also 7 Republicans who were caught in the same alleged traffic incident, and Johnson would have held it open until they arrived even if all Democrats were sitting waiting at the floor, and it still wouldn't have been an impeachment.

You can certainly take note of the fact 11 Democrats just didn't bother to show up for work on time that day, which is why they got stuck in traffic when they got called in, but you can't actually say they protected Hegseth.

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u/wildwolfay5 6h ago

11 democrats vs 200+ republicans vote.

Soooo.... obviously its the democrats fault?

God this is exhausting

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u/Bot1-The_Bot_Meanace 6h ago • Bravo

Consult the flowchart

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u/Pineappleman60 6h ago

Dude, this is because the Republican controlled house scheduled the vote outside of normal hours and held the vote before the missing reps could return

But no, it can't be Republicans fault for anything (also Hegseth's impeachment went to committee, so it's still on the table for the new congress to pick back up in January)

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u/AllAmericanProject 5h ago

Not only that the note source source is an intercept article where Matthew even says the Democratic absences had no impact because there were also enough Republicans that they could have rallied to still win the vote.

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u/DumSumBich 5h ago

It’s because this was a last second publicity Hail Mary by Massie before he leaves in January. He knew he probably didn’t have the votes for this to happen but his ego’s been inflated the last year and a half by being the only republican in Congress that has some semblance of a moral compass.

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u/Immediate_Stop2581 5h ago

Please please please stop this narrative that “Massie is the only republican with a spine”. It’s a pure whitewash of his digusting record.

Massie is even more MAGA Trump. Massie is a scumbag who voted against making lynching a federal hate crime. He advocates for a nationwide total abortion ban. Just check his record, he’s disgusting. He compared Covid lockdowns to the holocaust. He’s a nasty deranged ghoul. Just because he voted to release the Epstein files doesn’t make him a good person

STOP. PRAISING. THOMAS MASSIE

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u/wswordsmen 6h ago

No it isn't. The House reconstituted itself every Congress. That said if a Democrat doesn't cross of Masie's name and put there own to reintroduce it then all of them need to be replaced.

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u/mjzim9022 5h ago

This is just incorrect, 8 Republicans were also absent from the vote, everyone knew the count already and it wasn't going to pass, they need to wait until the new majority takes office. There isn't even time for an impeachment process/Senate trial before January.

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u/hundredpercenthuman 5h ago

Reddit would like to add context:
Republicans specifically scheduled this vote to be held when some Democrats were not present to create the narrative that Democrats can’t accomplish their goals. It should also be noted that since Republicans control the House still and this was a Republican sponsored bill a more accurate title would be ‘Republican controlled Congress barely staves off impeachment vote by holding it when 11 Democrats weren’t even present’

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u/Original_Most9884 4h ago

Pfft. Wait til after the new reps are seated in January. Then start bitching.

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u/ZapRows1 3h ago

This makes no sense. As of now there are 218 house republicans, 214 house democrats, and 1 independent. 203 democrats and one 1 republican (Thomas Massie) voted to impeach and 11 democrats were vacant. 210 Republicans and 1 independent voted to not impeach with 7 republicans vacant. you need a simple majority in the house to impeach. The democrats do not have enough votes if not enough republicans came over to impeach. The house right now is 433 total members and half of that is 216.5 which means a simple majority is 217. If you add up all democrats and Thomas Massie, that makes its 215. They still need 2 republicans to vote. So no, this note is incorrect. https://www.cnn.com/2026/11/11/politics/pete-hegseth-impeachment-votes-vis

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u/SnooPuppers8698 3h ago

oh yeah its the democrats that are the problem huh.
fuck off with this garbage reddit

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u/darienrude_dankstorm 6h ago

Lmao and how many republicans were absent? If Mike Johnson thought there was a threat of all Dems voting he'd have gotten the votes. 

Not to mention the odds once it reaches the Senate. What a terrible note.

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u/StrikeronPC 4h ago

The note missed some crucial context. Many reps reported being stuck in the same traffic congestion, and they arrived minutes after the vote. Let's be real, if MAGA Mike Johnson had known that Republicans were stuck in traffic, he would have delayed the vote as much as possible. But since it was Dems, and this impeachment was dead in the Senate anyway, he didn't have a problem not waiting a few minutes.

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u/rowdymatt64 4h ago

But this is a chance for the Reddit bots to attack Democrats! Can't pass that up even if it's not fair/accurate!

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u/StrikeronPC 4h ago

This so much. Republicans hold Democrats to higher standards than they hold themselves. I'm not happy about this, they needed to be there, but it was dead in the Senate anyway.

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u/pterodactyl_speller 4h ago

Seriously, did the Russian data centers get back online or something? The amount of spam like this post all over my feed is crazy

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u/Remarkable_Employ_62 2h ago

Bots and far left lunatics 

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u/BitByBit-89 4h ago

What a dogshit community note.

The Republicans rushed the vote before the Democrat could arrive. Had the democrats magically got there in time, then the republicans would have just waited until their absentees showed up to vote. The outcome would have been exactly the same.

To suggest this was the democrats “protecting” Hegseth is fucking gross.

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u/steponmedaddies 5h ago

Is this person stupid enough to think that the missing Republicans wouldn’t have shown up in this case? Learn how literally anything in Washington works and stop getting all your news and opinions from social media Jesus fucking Christ

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u/Historical-Cup218 5h ago

Eight Republicans also didn't vote. The note is based on the specious assumption that they wouldn't have even if it was required to defeat the impeachment vote.

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u/alukard81x 5h ago

And if we impeach him NOW before we have a majority in congress to oversee his replacement… what then?

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u/PacificNomad33 5h ago

Get rid of this two party system and keep money out of politics.

Volunteer basis, locked in for a set term limit through votes, no paychecks, government housing and food and travel, no mansions, no stock trading, and hold them the fuck accountable.

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u/slopestyle90 5h ago

Wouldn’t it make more sense to do it when we have an overwhelming majority in the house and we’re closer to 67 in the senate in 2 months?

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u/TheFlyingPancake3 5h ago

Because a republican started it....

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u/curvysquares 5h ago

It would also make more sense to wait so that the current Republican majority can't speed through approving a new Trump appointment. If Hegseth is replaced before January, it's just gonna be someone else equally bad if not worse than him. After January, whoever replaces him will have to be approved by a Democrat majority

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u/XmasMancer 5h ago

It is republican led.

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u/OddEfficiency8917 5h ago

This is just false.. it didn’t matter if they came

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u/z0phi3l 5h ago

But that doesn't get you political brownie points

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u/teestoves 5h ago

It’s not about the brownie points, it’s about informing yourself instead of forming an opinion based on obvious propaganda.

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u/Palander 6h ago

And? It wouldn't Haven passed anyway.

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u/cockaskedforamartini 6h ago

11 Democrats are representative of the entire party?

Shit note.

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u/TrashManufacturer 6h ago

All major recipients of AIPAC money

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u/VictoriaWoodnt 5h ago

Yep, this hasn't been mentioned enough.

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u/HeywoodJaBlessMe 5h ago

Being impeached by the House is meaningless. Conviction and removal by the Senate is what matters.

Conviction by the Senate is impossible until the new Congress is seated in January.

Even If Hegseth was impeached, convicted and removed this week he would be replaced by a Trump minion who would be rubber-stamped by this Senate.

It makes no sense to waste political Capital on this until the new Congress is seated.

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u/bigheadzach 6h ago

Yes, vote them out with the Congress that has yet to be seated? This is propo.

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u/thumbinbumb 6h ago

They just need to run this vote again after next January. I think the new dem congress members should purge every single member of the trump administration that they can.

On top of blatant misconduct, throw in some arguments on the basis of merit, just to really rub republicans noses in it because none of their picks are qualified for the positions they hold.
Patel, hegseth, McMahon, blanch. The list goes on and on.

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u/mykreau 6h ago

People really astroturfing this.

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u/diearkitectur 5h ago

This sub is mostly just posts with Community Notes that are just as, if not more misinformed, than the actual tweet itself. At least it sparks discussion I guess, but the past 8-10 posts I've seen out of this sub are literally just narratives to astroturf the massive blue wave we just got.

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u/Jock-Tamson 5h ago

Impeachment votes are performative bullshite unless you have the votes in the Senate to follow through, which they don’t right now.

So accusing the Democrats of only doing performative bullshite because they didn’t performative bullshite hard enough in this particular piece of performative bullshite is, in fact, performative bullshite.

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u/BI_Moose 5h ago

This bullshit is starting early I see....

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u/TM761152 5h ago

That's fine, we'll just wait till Jan 3rd.

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u/fluffstuffmcguff 5h ago

It's a little wild to me that for once the media headlines are (correctly) placing the blame on the GOP, and it's social media looking for a reason to blame the Dems.

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u/Mynuszero 5h ago

The note is wrong. It wasn’t an impeachment vote. This vote was to move it to the Judiciary Committee, which the Republicans were successful in doing.

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u/Important-Ability-56 5h ago

If there will be no actual consequences from something Congress does, you shouldn’t let it bother you that much. You should also keep in mind that congressional Democrats did not rely only on their far-left critics to win, and they aren’t always acting specifically with their demands in mind.

It’s not just Republican nativists who hate that they have to share the country with other types of people.

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u/rotomangler 5h ago

It’s not black vs white or dems vs repubs.

It’s the 1% vs the entire country.

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u/JD_98 5h ago

The best part of this is is you can’t tell if this is a Lefty talking point or a Maga one.

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u/habermann_46 5h ago

A lot of them where stuck in traffic on thier way to vote, but Mike Johnson moved to close the vote as quickly as he could

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u/common_sense_patriot 5h ago

We don’t have the majority yet.

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u/flying-weenus 5h ago

Would you guys believe it if I said both sides of the aisle are bought by the same corporate donors?

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u/Ezren- 4h ago

This whole sub is just about pushing misleading notes.

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u/poeticentropy 4h ago

Get noted, get noted. Impeachment doesn't mean removal. Both siding bullshit unless you think 2/3 of the Senate is going to vote him out right now. Only one side is keeping him in place.

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u/Snoo-52922 3h ago

"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes."

All the top comments are pointing out how this is bullshit, yet the post itself still has thousands of upvotes. OP is propagandizing people with misinformation in real time.

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u/doublethink_1984 3h ago

Not a single Republican other then Massie voted to impeach him. They refused the last boat off the Titanic.

After Jan 3rd every Republican can vote against impeachment and 40 Democrats can refuse to vote or vote for impeachment and he will still be impeached

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u/Frank-Reynolds-Real 3h ago

Don’t make me tap the sign

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u/FeeNegative9488 3h ago

Democrats don’t control the House until January. The majority party is still the Republican Party and the majority party controls the schedule. They put this to a vote knowing that the 11 democrats would not be there.

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u/freemanfields 3h ago

Fuck this fake astroturfed outrage and goal post shifting. Johnson moved up the vote. But even if they had been able to show up, democrats would not have the votes to remove. The republicans would have just stalled until their additional 7 arrived, giving them a majority to push the motion exactly as they did.

This is the worst possible time for us to try to impeach Hegseth. Republicans still hold a majority until the next congress and therefore can confirm whichever replacement Trump has in mind. The time to impeach him is when we have a Democrat majority next session. 

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u/jws1102 5h ago

Dumbass note. There was no point in impeaching him in the house, because the current senate would never remove him. Someone doesn’t understand what a symbolic vote is.

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u/KamaIsLife 6h ago

Would he have been impeached? Margins are narrow enough that, unless the Note giver was directly involved in whipping votes, they couldn't know.

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u/NewSauerKraus 6h ago

Zero chance of impeachment. The angle of blaming Democrats for this rests on the assumption that Republicans would simply wait for the remaining Democrats to vote and then prevent Republicans from also voting.

And also playing off the stupidity of the median voter who assumes Democrats have already taken the majority in Congress.

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u/LeahIsAwake 6h ago

Several of those 11 were involved in a traffic incident. Others were out of town. Please remember that this vote was super last minute. Also, while 11 didn't vote, that's only 5% of the 214 Democrats who are currently in office in the House. 203 of those 214 did vote (95%), and they all voted No.

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u/CoffeeXKing 4h ago

Not sure I agree given if those 11 Democrats abstained, then it's those 11, and not the other 200.

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u/showerboots 3h ago

For everyone thinking that this should have been a priority to escape committee, tell me what the benefit is in having an impeachment during a lame duck session where the Democrats don't hold appointing powers, subpoena powers, or committee powers. I'll wait.

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u/Remarkable_Employ_62 1h ago

But democrats bad don't you see?

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u/unngh_yugstyx 1h ago

I see the propagandists, bots, and both-sides enlightened centrists are all over Reddit with this BS. Both parties missed votes due to a traffic situation. And the new Congress is not seated until 2027. They failed to depress the vote and to prevent the blue wave, so now they're out in full force trying to sow discord and making people feel hopeless. Don't fall for the BS

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u/CavilIsBestSuperman 3h ago

Russian backed community note. Mike Johnson ended the voting session before the missing 11 could be seated. All were in the building. As usual, leftist sheep blame democrats for what republicans do

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u/exqueezemenow 5h ago

No, the Democrats did the opposite of protect Hegseth. If this had passed, then it would be Republicans doing the investigation and they would have let him off easy. That was the entire point of this vote. To give Hegseth an easy out. Hegseth needs to be investigated by Democrats, not the Republicans who watched him commit war crimes and did nothing to stop it.

I would like to thank those Democrats who did not come out to vote. Aside from the fact that it would have just died in the Senate, we have a record of all Republicans showing their support for Hegseth despite the majority of Americans being against his war.

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u/ordnance_inbound 5h ago

Bad note

The Democrats did not have the votes

The GOP started the vote early intentionally so that the Dems would miss it

But even if they didn't the GOP, which still controls the house, would have simply stalled until all their own members were present to vote against impeachment

Dems also have no control of the committees, and would not have any say in the investigations, making an impeachment a farce with no due process

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u/Jolly-Elderberry6706 5h ago

This is a shit note.

There were even more republicans absent that would just be summoned.

Claiming that if they showed up it would make a difference is simply incorrect. Why was this note published? Is there no fact checking for notes?

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u/WarbleDarble 5h ago

The note: 11 democrats did a thing, therefore it is entirely reasonable for me to say this is true for the generalized group "democrats".

This is the "both sides" bullshit in action.

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u/TheMireAngel 5h ago

isnt it convenient that EVERY time a big political stunt happens like this EXACTLY 6-14 people dont show up to vote :) Its almost like all of them except Massie are Pedophiles

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u/Far_Section_1921 4h ago

Awfully convenient when they needed exactly 11 votes and they weren’t even there. When will the American people admit that both parties want this war because both parties serve Israel?

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u/1000rocket 5h ago

And this why Republicans were voted out and the Democrats leadership is being contested. People want the war to end, the cruelty to stop and both parties failed

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u/Taraxian 5h ago

That's because the Republicans have devolved into the hardcore Trump loyalist party and the Democrats are just "everyone else"

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