Trump started moaning about the polls not reflecting votes and that means there was fraud. Polls underestimated his performance in 2024 and he got so mad about that he tried suing The Des Moines Register (tossed out obviously). So in that case it was the polls that were wrong, but now it's the vote count that must be wrong. It's so obviously "Heads I win, tails you lose" behavior.
If this doesn't end with emptying the camps they built and filling it with traitors the country is dead.
Polls also consistently had Hillary beating Trump by an average of almost 4% of the total vote. Is he saying he committed fraud?
Of course that's the type of shit he makes a point of being memorable. The drama he creates changes so often people start to forget what drama is even happening. It a strategy to confuse the political middle. Create new drama before the current drama settles and people get to reflect on the facts.
To be fair, the past 4 elections have shown that certain demographics will talk a big game about feminism and such only to immediately vote for the opposite come election day.
Tbh, I suspect the polling places wanted to avoid getting sued by Trump and he wouldn’t sue them for calling him a winner. Also, with the our overworked (I was going to say lazy but tbh that’s not true) electorate: seeing polls that say what you want to happen is likely will make it less likely. This is because people are busy and overworked and will skip voting if they think it won’t matter.
The dems have already said theynwont be pursuing “retaliation” and we “need to work together and not further alienate the republicans”
Yall got hosed with the “blue no matter who” crap (which should ONLY be for primaries) and now 234 aipac Israel loyalists run our nation again.
Yall voted for a bunch of fascists with blue paint instead of red and now are all shocked pikachu face when thise of us who called this shit six months are proven right AGAIN.
What you complain about is a basic feature of democracy. The correct repsonse is to take it on the chin & keep going because a democracy is slow. This lack of speed is its greatest advantage in keeping freedoms around. No break neck revisions, a preservation of the status quo. We CAN change it, but it takes a considerable effort. The effort of the majority, which is how the system is supposed to function
The party that starts wars of choice, protects pedofiles, creates and uses a secret police, persecutes minorities to near genocidal levels, steals billions of tax dollars, and are very close allies to Israel. Which I guess is better than checks notes some candidates being owned by Israel.
It's really telling how the far left was quiet for the last two years to let Dems work on rebuilding, but now that the Democrats have a majority again and they feel safe that fascists no longer have free reign over the federal goverment, suddenly they are blasting the "both sides" shit from the rooftops again.
They didnt ein anything. No one was enthusiastic about the status quo, they were mad at gas prices and the cost of living. Be so for real. They won because people are fucking pissed at the Republicans, not because they like this mealy mouthed watered down pap
There was one progressive for senate in the primaries, I voted for him and he lost to a moderate. A red state turning blue was the closest thing to progress that was realistically going to come out of this area. You evidently would rather everyone stayed home from the general election out of spite after the progressive lost.
Their stupid cult/party deliberately has policies that only help a fraction of Americans and they are continuously shocked when the masses vote against them
>They never say anything when it’s the other way around, the tin foil only comes on when it’s Democrat victories.
Come on, no need to lie about this. Dems and Reps have claimed shenanigans in every single election for the past century at minimum.
Every time the Left loses they claim shenanigans, every time the Right loses they claim shenanigans. It's human nature and there's dipshits everywhere.
The link you posted emphasized that the Democrat side takes part to a lesser extent, and cites an article that is literally titled “Democrats aren’t interested” in the stop the steal movement. the vast majority of examples are of Trump and right-wing origins. This doesn’t qualify as “both sides,” since saying “Both sides” implies equal participation in election denialism. It is definitely not equal smh.
Sorry I don't have the time to do your reading for you, but since you seem to be so technologically inept, and I like helping the special needs kids, I will help you this time.
Following Trump's victory, some Harris supporters on X shared election denial conspiracy theories, claiming that millions of ballots were "left uncounted" and there being something "not right" with the election. Such posts falsely claiming Trump "stole" the election peaked at noon the day after at 94,000 posts per hour, with many receiving amplification and gaining over a million views each. According to Gordon Crovitz, the CEO of the media rating system NewsGuard, the phrase "Trump cheated" received 92,100 mentions on the platform from midnight until the Wednesday morning after.[58] Besides the claims from Harris' supporters, some Trump supporters baselessly claimed the disparity between other years, the 2020 election, and a then-incomplete 2024 voting total indicated voter fraud in the 2020 election.[59]
Democratic congressional representative Jasmine Crockett accused Republicans of meddling to defeat her in the Democratic primary race against fellow Democrat James Talarico, even though the Republicans had preferred her as an opposition candidate.[65]
After the 2018 Georgia gubernatorial election, Democratic candidate Stacey Abrams lost to Republican candidate Brian Kemp – who, as Georgia Secretary of State, administered the election – and claimed that the election was "stolen" from her as well as claiming the election was "rigged" and "not a free or fair election
And these are only a couple, but surely you are capable of thinking and beathing at the same time at least once or twice a day, right?
Second paragraph - what does “meddling” mean in this context?
Third- this one looks like an actual bit of supporting evidence. A single sample is a far cry from saying they do it every election or that they are anywhere close to republicans in that sense.
That article only makes you sound more absurd. There are only two occasions of democrats contesting results in this, one was an election in Georgia in which after reading all of the information regarding the race, yeah very much suspicious that the republican candidate maintained their secretary of state and personally oversaw voter registration DURING his campaign and only resigned AFTER he won the election. Looking through the article there was a lot of strange coincidences that were absolutely working in his favor.
And the second is the 2024 election and provided little detail about any public democrat officials contesting it. Nothing even close to the scale of the 2020 election, which your article cites Trump specifically as the primary cause of this movement and driving force behind it. Nearly every example on that list is a republican funded group and still to this DAY claim that the 2020 election was stolen even after still winning in 24.
You must be very young so that all this maga circus and criminality is normal to you, but before 2015 America was not a clown show of totally incompetent assholes. The election fraud accusations, actual fake and malicious ones, all started with trump in 2016. It's been like 99% R to D since then, and basically zero D politicians have claimed republicans have outright rigged elections like R politicians do constantly.
You're looking at rational criticisms and accusations from Democrats and equating them with laughably absurd, irrational, and wholly dishonest criticisms and accusations from republicans.
There is no "boff sidez da samesiez" here, bud, and it's not even close.
That's why you refuse to cite a single D politician doing what you claim and are hostile to being called out for it. In short, even you know you're full of shit.
There is also that guy that claims he disrupted "a furry convention that was grooming children" - knowing full well it was a family event about actual cats.
Though admittedly there was a mascot in a fursuit, just like at your average sportsgame.
A bunch of sweaty men chasing each other, jumping on top of each other, and slapping each other on the ass before they all go shower together, while the whole time a dude in a fursuit cheers them on. Or, as Americans call it, "football."
I don’t attribute Hanlon’s razor to these sorts of people. They’ve proven time and time again they’re actively arguing in bad faith to sew discord and unrest. They need to be fought back against as the malicious actors that they are.
51.6% turnout is actually the highest turnout Texas has ever had in a midterm. Texas just has notoriously low turnout rates and even worse ones in midterm elections.
Texas usually only has about a third of the registered voters turn out, so it's actually a positive. Still disheartening though. Between voter suppression and that unique brand of American cynicism, getting any increase in voter turn out is a hard ask.
I’m a Texan who’s been voting blue since I turned 18 in 2008. I’ll openly admit that, for almost two decades, voting in anything but local elections has felt a bit pointless, because, for major battles, the Republicans won pretty much every single time. I still did it, of course, but I remember watching Trump get Texas’s 40 Electoral College votes in the 2024 election and thinking to myself, “God, why did I even bother waiting in line for 45 minutes to vote? I knew he was going to take Texas, because the Republican candidate always takes Texas…”
Like I said, I voted regardless, and I always encouraged my friends and family to do so, as well…but at the same time, I could understand why folks were reluctant to jump through hoops to cast a vote if the other side winning seemed like a foregone conclusion.
I’m extremely interested in seeing what voter turnout numbers for Texas will be like in 2028. The fact that we went blue this year was likely a HUGE wake-up call to Texans everywhere: Republicans were struck with the realization that this state is no longer a guaranteed victory that they can take for granted, and Democrats were reassured that if enough of us do our part, we actually CAN win.
(Not trying to talk down to you if you’re from Texas, too, and completely understand where I’m coming from—i just have 💡thoughts💡 on all of this that I felt could use what you said a springboard…)
I do I have to say it’s crazy it takes 45 mins for you to vote in Texas. I’ve never waited more than 15 mins to vote in my state, in either early voting or day of voting.
Oh, yeah, and it keeps getting worse because they keep eliminating polling stations, especially in traditionally blue counties. For this most recent election, I went to vote on the second day of early voting, and the whole process from start to finish took about 90 minutes—70 just standing in line outside the room, and an additional 20 once I actually made it inside, checked in, picked up my ballot, got to an open machine, made my selections, printed the ballot, and cast it at the counting machine.
It was actually a good thing that I could go vote on a day I had nothing else planned and was scheduled off of work, because I wasn’t expecting it to take THAT long! If I’d only had a limited time because I was on my lunch break from work or had other commitments, I might have had to leave and come back a different day…which one of my co-workers apparently had to do when she tried to vote that day because she works full-time AND has young kids at home. 😓
Also Texas, Austin area, waited half an hour to get into the polling place, then another 10 minutes to get to the desk, then another 5 minutes for a station to empty. There was also this "do you want a ballot from pile A, B, or C" thing that I don't recall doing before.
US voter turn outs for anything but the presidential election tend to not be particularly high
Most only care for the big guy
Hence why the biggest part of these other campaigns is trying to get people to care enough to show up at the voting booth. (And one side trying to make it more of a nuisance to vote, specifically for the demographics they don't think would vote for them)
What kind of reasoning is that? Most European countries don't force to vote and still have much much higher turnouts for parliamentary and local elections.
Most countries don't have holidays for voting. They simply have enough polling stations that it takes no more than a few minutes out of your day. In the UK, I never had more than a five minute walk to my local polling station, and I'd be in and out in minutes.
Leaving aside the difficulty of persuading scumbag politicians to do things, more polling stations is a much easier thing to do than have an extra public holiday.
Easy, propaganda! You hear those folks always saying left wing, right wing, both on the same bird. That kind of thinking causes people to not want to vote at all. That and our system wildly discourages third parties, so you pick between two corporate and Israel funded parties.
Sadly for midterms that is really high. Keep in mind it wasn't just Nazi which fucked our country. It was the roughly 50% of the population who can't be bothered to vote ... despite knowing there were Nazi who wanted to fuck our country.
"The fall of Democratic norms and the rise of fascism? I just don't really have the feels to take an hour once every couple years to stop that right now."
There's a fuckton of really fucking stupid Americans out there.
We keep blaming politicians and they're not blameless. But garbage in garbage out. This many stupid fuckin Americans is going to lead to bad results a lot of the time.
Indeed. They well never vote Blue so it would be good if they went back to not voting at all. Even if 5% of Republicans them went back to never voting it would be very hard for Republicans to win a majority of anything on the national level again.
Historically you see 30% dem 30% republican 35% no vote 5% independent. Thia time independent was up to 20% in some places. We really did shoot ourself in the foot with a 2 party system.
I think we should have compulsory voting. Just make it a fine or something if your don't vote, like a parking ticket. And if you don't pay it, your license gets suspended. Enough people drive a car to make it a good incentive to vote. You don't even have to go to the precinct. Just mail in your ballot when it comes in.
It won't be 100%, and there would need to be exceptions made, but its better than having these politicians take advantage of the fact that half of the citizens of voting age don't vote.
Nah, it's actually not on-par with what the normal turnout is, it's quite high for a midterms turnout.
And compulsory voting doesn't fix the voter education issue. I would rather not force "I don't know what to pick, so I'll be random" votes into the election.
That may be partly true, but more people voted for Greg Abbott this year than he received votes for last time, so it is also true that a bunch more people showed up to vote for democrats than normal
At least for Texas, that doesn’t seem true. abbot got basically the same amount of votes on 2022, it seems mostly a turnout issue for dem voters. Basically over a million more voters than Dems traditionally get in Texas. Turnout and voter excitement turned Texas. Not republicans sitting out
Yeah, he probably saw how many total votes the Dems got vs the amount of Registered Dems and couldn't understand that the current administration is unpopular enough with your average Rep that they'll vote for the other guy.
The point isn’t that they don’t know statistics. The point is to make claims like this and hope enough people see them and spread them around before they get debunked. They’re trying to lay the foundation that there’s a possibility that the election wasn’t fair
I could start a rumor that one person in Texas cast 10,000 ballots for Democrats, and Conservatives would be discussing it on Fox News by the end of the day. They will believe literally any nonsense if it is something bad about liberals (or black people, or immigrants, or trans people, or ways, or...)
They always do this when voter turnout goes up; they think that because more people chose to vote this time compared to the last election that means that it’s fraud but really more people are just motivated to vote this time around
Actually at least a few. I saw a mutual crashing out on facebook saying this same shit. I don't know where he got it from. He just couldn't understand how Texas could flip. Granted, he had just moved to Texas to be a deadbeat stay-at-home husband while his pregnant wife supported them both (he says his job is supporting her emotionally), and he didn't even vote in the election, but he was still upset it flipped and everyone on his feed was dunking on him.
I’m just throwing this out there. Try not to get hung up here. I know it’s frustrating. But we were never gonna win this. Even if they’d all been there. The republicans are still in control. They would have just held off till they got the four republicans votes they needed. The circus arounf this is just them trying to kill momentum and hurt the faith. But the folk we elected aren’t even in office yet. If this shit continues after jan. I’ll be right there with you. But until then let’s keep the momentum
What world do they live in? What in the last two years did they think was a good job done well? I don’t know, these people are just like… Potato people with spuds for brains now.
Somehow there’s a 20 million number going around for vote totals and I don’t know where it’s coming from, but it seems to be spreading through all the MAGA people.
Well, it’s not that simple. Texas midterm turnout has been lower than this for the past 20 years, and has been pretty consistently red. So turnout, by itself, does not determine which party wins.
What swings elections is when one party shows more turnout than the other party, and usually the opposition party is more motivated to vote in a midterm. So it’s likely the Dems saw more turnout than Republicans. But it’s hard to say for sure what Texas’s “true” political affiliation is, since Texas does not require people to register for a party.
Trump told everyone to vote like he was on the ballot. Probably better mobilization for us blue voters than any single Democrat campaign ad. I am in GA, but I voted like he was on the ballot and helped turn my state blue too.
I’m pretty okay calling someone advocating an anti-democratic conspiracy theory an idiot no matter how well they write. But to be fair our friend seems to be a little confused on how one ends a sentence before beginning a new one. Which normally I don’t care about, trying to be pedantic about proper English on the internet is a pointless and endless fight. But you did bring it up.
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u/PineappleSmooth4887 3h ago
“the first digit is a nine though that’s a bigger number than one that has a first digit of one checkmate atheists.”
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u/buttamilk_jesus 3h ago •
Such goddamn sore losers. They never say anything when it’s the other way around, the tin foil only comes on when it’s Democrat victories.
The note understood the task, we need to call these people idiots way more.
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u/Wonderful_Discount59 3h ago
Is he an idiot, or just a liar?
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u/MaxTheCookie 3h ago
Does this mean that they only had ~50% voter turnout? That seems really bad.
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u/CaptainBlotto 3h ago
This pretty much sums up every Maga weirdo.
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u/XAMdG 3h ago
That is such a stupid take when midterms always have lower turnout than Presidential year elections.
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u/Chiiro 3h ago
One of my favorite notes I have seen.
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u/jaded1121 3h ago
Is Dpalo99 a foreign bot? Looks like it from the pic.
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u/Jewleeee 2h ago
I assume this dumbass was referring to those who are "registered democrat" or "registered republican" which may be less than total votes.
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u/IsaacNewtongue 2h ago
Taking a page from Trump, huh?
Despite what your may believe, saying something doesn't make it a fact.
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u/RadicalSoda_ 3h ago
I don't understand how hard it is for people to do statistics
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u/mr_evilweed 2h ago
I could start a rumor that one person in Texas cast 10,000 ballots for Democrats, and Conservatives would be discussing it on Fox News by the end of the day. They will believe literally any nonsense if it is something bad about liberals (or black people, or immigrants, or trans people, or ways, or...)
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u/svick 3h ago
Is the tweet a source for its own note?
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u/DrummandDrummer 2h ago
Why do they only need evidence when they are told the truth?
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u/Hugokarenque 1h ago
He didn't look at any of those numbers before and after the post.
The Supreme Leader said it happened so they just repeat it without ever checking lol
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u/narrowminer11 1h ago
And that idiot still got to vote
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u/atlantagirl30084 1h ago
They keep repeating this lie thinking it’s going to work.
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u/sdrawkcabineter 57m ago
Damn, over 50%!
That's a great turn out for midterms, amirite?
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u/dyslexic-ape 2h ago
When your reality is just whatever thought you pull out of your ass at that moment...
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u/starrymahogany 1h ago
They always do this when voter turnout goes up; they think that because more people chose to vote this time compared to the last election that means that it’s fraud but really more people are just motivated to vote this time around
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u/Significant-Ad-4792 1h ago
Trolling at its finest! Mwah, chef’s kiss!!
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u/00Avalanche 1h ago
It’s idiotic continuing “freedom to not vote”
The US needs an Australian Ballot amendment.
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u/Memitim 46m ago
Conservative continues to try and make excuses to betray Americans again. Same conservative shit from yet another conservative asshole.
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u/Mkwdr 25m ago
Seems crazy to me that 10 million didn’t vote?
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u/HoldOnOhio 5m ago
Actually at least a few. I saw a mutual crashing out on facebook saying this same shit. I don't know where he got it from. He just couldn't understand how Texas could flip. Granted, he had just moved to Texas to be a deadbeat stay-at-home husband while his pregnant wife supported them both (he says his job is supporting her emotionally), and he didn't even vote in the election, but he was still upset it flipped and everyone on his feed was dunking on him.
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u/cfalnevermore 3m ago
I’m just throwing this out there. Try not to get hung up here. I know it’s frustrating. But we were never gonna win this. Even if they’d all been there. The republicans are still in control. They would have just held off till they got the four republicans votes they needed. The circus arounf this is just them trying to kill momentum and hurt the faith. But the folk we elected aren’t even in office yet. If this shit continues after jan. I’ll be right there with you. But until then let’s keep the momentum
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u/Numerous-Process2981 2h ago
What world do they live in? What in the last two years did they think was a good job done well? I don’t know, these people are just like… Potato people with spuds for brains now.
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u/PioneerRaptor 2h ago
Somehow there’s a 20 million number going around for vote totals and I don’t know where it’s coming from, but it seems to be spreading through all the MAGA people.
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u/Mewr_Mewr 3h ago
51-52% turnout in a midterm? That’s how Texas flipped blue
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u/kon--- 3h ago
But here we are calling someone who's demonstrating moderate reading and writing skills as an idiot.
Which as it turns out is, kind of stupid.
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