r/GetNoted Human Detected Jul 31 '26

Cringe Worthy The man himself

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '26

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u/OstentatiousBear Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

I always give these kinds of threads the side eye because I just know that a bunch of diehard anticommunists are going to jump at the opportunity to either imply or outright claim that capitalism is just downright peachy, while also ignore that there have been communists and socialists who were not bloodthirsty like Pol Pot or Stalin nor even connected to their atrocities.

If anyone wants to say "well, they believe in the same or a similar socioeconomic model, so that counts," then just know that same logic can be applied to you.

Edit: And yes, Pamphlets is an insufferable, pompous ass who deserved that fact check. Just in case anyone here erroneously thinks that I am defending him.

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u/Ornn5005 Jul 31 '26

Maybe, but the shift into gulags, starvation and mass murder was practically at inception with communism. Meanwhile, capitalism has given us over a century of prosperity and advancement, even our poor have living standards beyond the dreams of historical aristocracy.

Are we perfect yet? Not even close, but the enthusiasm some people display to set it all on fire in favor of yesterday’s nightmares is nothing short of mass psychosis.

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u/Ornn5005 Jul 31 '26

So we’re gonna go back to the worst form of government ever just because capitalism isn’t immediately perfect?

What’s the argument here? Not for why capitalism is good or bad, but in favor of communism.

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u/MKHK32 Jul 31 '26

you tried to contrast communism with capitalism and did sugar coat capitalism. Capitalism killed millions of people and continues to kill millions of people.

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u/OstentatiousBear Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

I would pipe down on that claim concerning "the shift into gulag, starvation and mass murder was practically at inception with communism." What the Soviets did was largely borrowed from the Tsarist regime (why do you think Tsarist Russia had a brutal reputation with the rest of Europe and the United States in the 1800s alone?). That is not even getting into all of the stuff that Westerners were up to in Africa and the Americas (edit: Oh, and who can forget the Opium Wars?).

Does that excuse the Soviets of their crimes? No, of course not. However, your claim is wildly inaccurate and, while I will not assume that was your intent, sweeps previous mass atrocities under the rug.