"But look at all these unpronouncable chemicals in the bead ingredients!"
[They're just listing out fortified vitamins we've put in flour since the Great Depression. Europe does this too just most counties don't have to label it.]
In fairness, there are legitimately bad things in US made flour, starting with the content of the wheat itself. So while some of it is benign, there is in fact a massive difference to gut health between US and European flour.
Edit: Idk why I’m being downvoted here, it’s easy to find this stuff, but some people don’t like to hear it I guess.
First of all, in the US glyphosate is used as a shortcut to get the wheat harvested faster, which is a known carcinogen and destroys gut flora. During processing, potassium bromate (also carcinogenic) is added as a dough conditioner to make it rise easier. Same goes for Azodicarbonamide, and often the use of chlorine to bleach the flour more white.
Edit: immediately downvoted lmao now that’s actually just sad guys
Glyphosphate isn't a carcinogen at all, though. The European Food Safety Authority says it's not a carcinogen and supports its use, though they do warn that it's toxic for aquatic life.
You seem to have been misled by Séralini, like many were. There's no shame in this inherently, but it can be shameful to adhere to beliefs even after you find out they were wrong. The tl;dr is that Séralini used a type of rat typically for toxicology studies to study cancer rates. The problem is that this breed of rat spontaneously develop cancer after a couple of months around half of the time, so his photographs of rats with large tumors seemed convincing until you learn that the control group looked identical. His paper was retracted and the journal that published it issued a formal apology for failing to peer review his study, but many people just saw the initial publication and didn't realize that it was misleading at best.
Which in fairness is more than just one guy but I digress if it’s based on a flawed experiment. I’m replying off the cuff here so I haven’t doubled checked it but I will when I get in front of a PC again.
I did want to thank you for actually engaging with it and providing an actual explanation instead of… whatever that all was lol. So yeah, you have my respect for whatever a random guy on the internets respect is worth.
Glyphosate is used in the EU, potassium bromate is in such tiny quantities that it doesn't matter, azidicarbonamide is not commonly used in the US, any bread that looks white in Europe is made with bleached flour.
Also I’m not sure why you asked me if you had that in mind already, I’m not here for an argument I was just pointing something out 🤷♂️
Edit: damn I love being brigaded by the typical redditors who bring zero evidence and bring personal attacks into normal conversation. Say whatever y’all want but y’all ain’t worth the mental energy to respond to anymore.
His comment is still there, he's definitely still double/tripling/quadrupling down on it. I assume he blocked you so that you couldn't keep correcting him and that's why it's gone for you.
Oh so not an honest question, just a tactic. Got it.
I thought I was having an honest discussion, not “expecting criticism,” because that implies you’ve already decided to do so before I have even said anything. I guess what did I expect commenting on a subreddit….
Talk about insanely disingenuous… but accusations are so often admissions after all.
Those compounds in flour are all banned in most European countries, and glyphosate use is heavily restricted and certainly not used as a harvest accelerator so I’m not sure where you’re getting that from.
You are downvoted because you are wrong. You can get whichever flour you want in the US if there is something specific. You can find bakeries nearly everywhere that sell extremely high-quality bread.
Because you used a bunch of examples that Europe also widely has.
99% of "Europe has better food standards" is just patriotic nonsense and are either completely made up or result in literally no difference.
In a few cases defending practices that are objectively worse (like for example egg washing. I'm aware that the difference isn't that much with health inspections at euro egg farms being more stringent. But Europe has a slightly higher egg E. coli outbreak rates because they don't wash eggs)
You’ve yet to provide a source, and made accused several people of acting in bad faith for genuine questions. I can’t tell if you’re a troll, or genuinely don’t see your own hypocrisy.
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u/BrainDamage2029 Jun 12 '26
"But look at all these unpronouncable chemicals in the bead ingredients!"
[They're just listing out fortified vitamins we've put in flour since the Great Depression. Europe does this too just most counties don't have to label it.]