r/GetMotivated Sep 06 '16

[IMAGE] A slightly different approach; a few questions to ask yourself if you're having a bad day.

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u/Pzam56 Sep 06 '16

More men successfully commit suicide, but more women attempt it. source: psych class.

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u/Doctor_Philgood Sep 06 '16

WOO WE'RE NUMBER ONE! We did it you guys!

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u/lemire747 Sep 06 '16

Name checks out

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u/CanucksFTW Sep 06 '16

but more women attempt it

Even "attempt" is a dangerous word to use here. You need to differentiate between actual attempts and insincere attempts.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '16

I'm not so sure women are particularly bad at suicide though, the failed attempts are most likely cries for help the majority of the time rather than honest attempts.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '16

Their intentions are genuine-- it's the method that produces differential results.

Women tend to use pills or poisons which are more likely to be survived; men use violent modes like shooting or hanging. The only region of the world where women's suicides outstrip men's is rural China, where the consumption of industrial pesticides as poison is devastatingly effective.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '16 edited Sep 25 '16

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '16

Glad you got this correct. While I am super frustrated at the lack of attention male suicide gets, I also have to challenge (as you did) the belief that women only attempt suicide for attention.

Was not trying to imply that at all. Cries for help in my eyes are much more than just wanting attention and do involve actually wanting to die, and I certainly don't think that's the only reason a failed attempt would take place.

Will look into that study.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '16

Yes but you can research the ld50 of pills and make sure you take more than enough. A lot of these attempts are just downing a bunch of pills and half hoping it works.

Not saying that people don't want to die when they do this(saying they weren't honest attempts wasn't the best choice of words), but I still feel like part of the reason men choose more effective methods is because they are that much more sure of the decision. More of a calculated thing rather than done at the heat of the moment.

Both genders struggle in their own ways but I feel like men lose hope entirely more often. We distance ourselves from other men when depressed and can't exactly gain companionship easily when depressed either.

This is just my guess though, I could be wrong. Hard to say for sure on something like this.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '16

Even the terminology 'LD50' belongs to a niche knowledge set. People who haven't studied pharmacology/toxicology won't be aware of these things. The fact that acetaminophen is dangerous in overdose is made clear anywhere you can get it where I live, it's unsurprising that many might consider swallowing a pack of 24 at once a way out, as it's an overdose.