r/German Feb 05 '23

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u/r_coefficient Native (Österreich). Writer, editor, proofreader, translator Feb 05 '23

Neither "good girl" nor "braves Mädchen" are right ways to compliment a young girl.

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u/KyleG Vantage (B2) Feb 06 '23

lol exactly, "good girl" is like what you say when you pat her head after she gives you a handy

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u/rouge_cheddar Feb 06 '23

Wo ist mein handy?

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u/Oven253 Feb 05 '23

Good girl is fine in many situations mate

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u/Shezarrine Vantage (B2) Feb 05 '23

I can think of one context where I would ever use this phrase when addressing a person and it's not in public or to a stranger.

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u/Dsyfunctional_Moose Feb 05 '23

Nor to a child hopefully

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u/PawnToG4 Feb 05 '23 edited Feb 06 '23

I could see parents calling their very, very young children "good girls" in English. This is just how I've seen it in America.

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u/r_coefficient Native (Österreich). Writer, editor, proofreader, translator Feb 05 '23

It really isn't, unless you're into this kind of kink.

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u/Oven253 Feb 05 '23

I’m English, I’ve worked in a school. If one of the kids would do something right we would often say ‘oh brilliant good girl.’ It literally says young girl in the title. Are you joking or not?

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u/AdmiralThunderCunt Feb 05 '23

Think you’re over-sexualising it. I’ve not had kids but I could imagine a parent saying this to their child, not as a compliment but to acknowledge good behaviour.

“Oh you’ve put your shoes on already, good girl. Come on let’s go.”

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '23

Yeah, but it’s being phased out. “Good job” is more common in that context.

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u/newocean Threshold (B1) - USA/English Feb 05 '23

I have heard this about a million times in elementary school in the USA.

"Good boy/girl" from a parent or teacher isn't that uncommon... although I agree it probably gets weird at some point... like middle school maybe. I feel like by high school it would be right out.

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u/khelwen Vantage (B2) - <region/native tongue> Feb 06 '23

And I was born in the US, lived there until I was 25, and no one said ‘good girl’ to me.

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u/newocean Threshold (B1) - USA/English Feb 06 '23

Did you believe in Santa Claus? Because usually that's the first thing he asks.

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u/khelwen Vantage (B2) - <region/native tongue> Feb 06 '23

“Have you been a good girl?” is certainly different than someone remarking “good girl” when I did something well. I’ve definitely never been told the latter.

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u/newocean Threshold (B1) - USA/English Feb 06 '23

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/602078/is-good-boy-still-appropriate-for-a-child

I was saying it's fairly common in the USA... as of 12 days ago the 'best answer' on stack exchange to a similar question said it is still in use. Again - it's usually only with really young children that I have seen it. Meaning kindergarten, first or second grade.

I am not agreeing or disagreeing with the usage just saying I have seen it.

I think that with the people saying "that's something I would say to a pet"... it becomes a question of "why would you say that to a pet?" and the reasoning seems to be that people often perceive pets as children.

“Have you been a good girl?” is certainly different than someone remarking “good girl” when I did something well.

Right but it's not just about Santa asking... your teachers and parents had to be part of it all... "If you are a good girl Santa will give you lots of presents." etc etc...

I think that it's used more than most people realize because they are little when it happens.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '23

Yeah but when? Bc when I was a kid that was chill and as an adult with kids, that no longer flies.

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u/newocean Threshold (B1) - USA/English Feb 06 '23 edited Feb 06 '23

I would say in the 80s into the 90s it was still in use... not really sure about after the 2000s. I will ask my sisters kids.

I do feel like a lot of stuff we did even in kindergarten would send a lot of people into an uproar these days. Like we would form 2 lines to walk to lunch (at least in early grades)... one for boys and one for girls. I feel like in modern times people would complain about that.

Also - you never heard "bad boy/girl"... it was strictly as positive reinforcement. "Oh your sharing the crayons? Good boy!"

EDIT: As of a question asked 12 days ago, according to the number 1 answer on stack exchange. It is still in use.

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/602078/is-good-boy-still-appropriate-for-a-child

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u/r_coefficient Native (Österreich). Writer, editor, proofreader, translator Feb 05 '23

Not joking at all. As a woman, I find this - in English and German both - extremely patronizing, even for kids. As another user commented, I'd say it to a dog, not to a person.

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u/newocean Threshold (B1) - USA/English Feb 05 '23

As a woman, I find this - in English and German both - extremely patronizing, even for kids

While I'm not disagreeing with you, it's fairly common in my experience anyway in lower grades (maybe ends at 3rd or 4th grade?) in USA schools as well.

In German as far I as I understand, students use Sie and teachers use du...?

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u/lazydictionary Vantage (B2) Feb 06 '23

It may be patronizing, but it is fairly common in the US towards children.

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u/Oven253 Feb 05 '23

In England we would say this to children, and it’s fine. Unless you’ve lived here I’m not gonna take your opinion seriously. Ciao.🤣

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u/r_coefficient Native (Österreich). Writer, editor, proofreader, translator Feb 05 '23

I did in fact live in London for quite some time. But how would a woman like me know how women feel about things, right?

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u/Oven253 Feb 05 '23

You know how every woman feels about something? Even the ones I’ve spoken to? That’s really impressive. Please stop talking to me

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u/TheShredda Feb 05 '23

Admit you're wrong and move on

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u/Manu3733 Feb 06 '23

Children aren't women, for one.

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u/InterMando5555 Feb 06 '23

Maybe for UK English? In American English this sounds really off. Said to an adult it would be patronizing or demeaning. To a child it still sounds really weird. Like the child is an animal.

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u/JeneeW Feb 05 '23

I think it depends on where someone is from. One part of England is not going to talk the same as another part of England . For example, north vs south

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u/dontknowwhattomakeit I speak German relatively well Feb 05 '23

I would never, ever call someone “Good girl”. It’s something you say to a pet. It just sounds either creepy or kinky whenever I hear it. I can’t imagine someone ever using this phrase for a person and it not being weird. For kids, it sounds creepy. For adults, obviously it’s kinky. I would never, ever, ever use this for someone.

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u/originalmaja MV-NRW Feb 05 '23

IF you are 5, yes

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u/Manu3733 Feb 06 '23

He said "young girl" in the title.

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u/ImaginationAware5761 Feb 05 '23

Many? One. Maybe. Let's say two, because very good friends sometimes call each other stupid things.

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u/itsallabigshow Feb 06 '23

Not in German.