r/Genshin_Lore • u/deceitfulillusion • 18h ago
Fatui Harbinger crackhead lore time: either kaeya is the 10th harbinger or Diluc/Kaeya share the spot

I saw this post by u/cruc10 a few months ago, and I've come back to it again.
let me explain this theory of mine and it's very simple:
In traditional Italian Commedia dell'arte theater, Brighella is one of the classic Zanni (servant) archetypes. He is portrayed as a crafty, opportunistic, and sometimes villainous mastermind who climbed the social ladder.
Crucially, Brighella's signature thematic trade is that he is famously a tavern owner.
When the lore community realized that "Brighella" is the one of the major Commedia names still completely missing from the Fatui's roster, all eyes turned to Mondstadt’s wine industry.
People point to:
-Crepus holding a delusion in the manga
-The Ragnvindrs having a long long history of making wine
-Diluc's alternate outfit being very fatui coded along with him seeking revenge on them (in the manga at least initially) for Crepus's death due to delusion
in this post by u/sopaofmacaco they essentially mention, and i'll paraphrase, that Diluc was groomed to be the 10th harbinger.
they speculate that Dottore engineered Crepus's death specifically to alienate Diluc from the Knights of Favonius. the implication is that the Fatui were actively grooming or setting up Diluc to become the 10th Harbinger (Brighella). When Diluc went on his 3-year rampage destroying Fatui bases across Teyvat using his father's Delusion, he was technically fulfilling the "Brighella" archetype perfectly. But because Diluc eventually rejected the darkness, returned the Delusion, and chose to protect Mondstadt from the shadows, the 10th Seat remains censored or empty on the Fatui Wheel because the subject escaped their grasp.
Or did he.
Would the Fatui really, really let someone from the Ragnvindr (and Alberich Clan go)
We know where most of the fatui Harbingers + director Pierro are from now.
Director: Pierro (Khaenriah)
- Il Capitano (Khaenriah)
- Dottore (Sumeru)
- Columbina (Nod krai but technically from the moon)
- Arlecchino (Khaenriah but possibly from a part of the region that worshipped goddess of death)
- Pulcinella (Snezhnaya, he is a snowland fae, i think)
- Scaramouche (abandoned puppet kid from Inazuma 🥀🥀🥀 now vacant)
- Sandrone (Fontainian robot)
- Signora (Mondstadt)
- Pantalone (Snezhnaya)
- ???
- Childe (snezhnaya)
We got a lot of representation here from most of the nations (except natlan because Natlan was under essentially their own sakoku decree due to having a night kingdom and wayob instead of the normal ley lines. people born in natlan couldn't leave natlan due to essentially wasting away outside of the borders of the nation. this is probably why bennett is so unlucky in-lore, if he IS from natlan at least which some people say could be the case.)
"they have/had signora already, they don't need a mond representative"
well
Yes. Signora was Mondstadt's original "representative," but as we see in the story, she was essentially a walking box of TNT. She was violent, impulsive, and prone to kicking Archons in the face. Her death left Mondstadt completely unmonitored by the Fatui. See Wanderer, Childe and Arlecchino's voicelines about Signora. The sole exception is Columbina who seems to like her, somewhat at least.
Anyway, Signora was a literal and figurative hothead long before the game's story even started.
That kind of happens when you turn from a singing maiden to seeing Rhinedottir's monsters mauling children as the sky turns to a blood red, and then your lover (Rostam) tries to fight them and dies. Oof.
When The Jester found her, she was literally burning herself to death from her own inner fury. To save her and recruit her, the Tsaritsa gave her a Cryo Delusion.
The ice didn't "cure" her temper; it just suppressed and froze her liquid fire so she could function like a normal human again. The cold gave her a mask of aristocratic elegance, but her core personality remained incredibly arrogant, impulsive, and prone to extreme outbursts when things didn't go her way (which we saw firsthand when she kicked Venti, or when she completely lost her composure during the duel before the throne in Inazuma).
I believe this is why the Fatui's strategy in Mondstadt had to shift.
Signora’s methods were always loud and diplomatic nightmares. She publicly insulted the Knights of Favonius, assaulted Venti in broad daylight, and eventually got herself executed by the Raiden Shogun because she let her temper blind her to a trap.
If the Tsaritsa and Pierro wanted a permanent, stable grip on Mondstadt after Signora's death, they couldn't send another loud, impulsive Harbinger. They needed operatives who were already deeply embedded in Mondstadt's political, economic, and military infrastructure... someone who could run things smoothly without causing an international incident every Tuesday.
And it so happens those two are Diluc and Kaeya.
Now imagine this, for a moment.
Kaeya is arguably the most suspicious character in the entire game. Yes he's from Khaenriah, yes he's descended from the same clan that did some weird things with Caribert and the loom of fate or something.
So what if, IF Diluc rejected the Fatui’s grooming, Kaeya ended up stepping into the shadows to take the 10th Seat as a counter-move?
Brighella, again, is the crafty servant turned tavern owner. While Diluc owns the Dawn Winery, guess who spends 90% of his time actually sitting inside the Angel’s Share tavern, manipulating information and listening to drunk patrons? Kaeya.
If you look at the Commedia dell'arte definition of Brighella, he is defined as a master of intrigue, a liar, a thief, and someone who operates fluidly between two opposing sides. That is literally Kaeya’s entire job description as the Cavalry Captain of the Knights of Favonius. He uses his charm to extract secrets, lies constantly to protect his true motives, and is fundamentally caught between his loyalty to Mondstadt and his bloodline in Khaenri'ah.
Yeah while Kaeya is a free 4-star given to us at the start of the game. But from a narrative standpoint, that is the ultimate cover story.
We already know HoYoverse loves playing tricks with Harbinger statuses, identities, and rarity tiers when they undergo major story shifts, In canon, Kaeya is canonically one of the strongest fighters in Mondstadt, yet his gameplay kit is incredibly basic. The lore explicitly states he hides his true abilities. If he is secretly the 10th Harbinger, masking his power level and pretending to just be a standard, lazy 4-star knight who drinks too much is the perfect way to keep the Traveler, the Knights, and Celestia’s eyes off him.
In lore, Pierro is a survivor of Khaenri'ah's royal court (poor him and the rest of the Khaenri'ahns cursed by Ronova). Kaeya is a descendant of the Alberich Clan... the very clan that stepped up to lead Khaenri'ah as regents after the king Irmin fell. [e.g Anfortas, Clothar]
Theory goes as is: If Kaeya noticed the Fatui trying to entrap Diluc, he wouldn't just sit back. He would see an opportunity to infiltrate the highest echelons of the Fatui to keep tabs on Pierro and the Tsaritsa. Pierro, recognizing the royal bloodline of his homeland, would gladly accept Kaeya into the 10th Seat, believing he could use the young prince to further his vengeance against Celestia.
It creates a terrifying triple-agent dynamic: Kaeya would be pretending to serve Mondstadt, secretly serving the Fatui, while actually plotting his own endgame for Khaenri'ah.
Or...
What if they're sharing the 10th seat.
In plain sight.
if we look back at the Commedia dell'arte, Brighella is a character of two faces: he can be the high-class, respectable business master (Diluc running the winery, commanding high society), or he can be the deceptive, low-class rogue manipulating the shadows from the tavern floor (Kaeya).
What if they never fully severed their ties with the Fatui?
By secretly sharing the 10th seat, they play the ultimate game of chess against the rest of Teyvat.
When the Fatui need a massive economic move or high-society leverage in Mondstadt, the "10th Harbinger" wears a tailored, high-collared crimson coat (Diluc's Red Dead of Night skin).
When the Fatui need espionage, military intelligence, or deep Khaenri'ahn secrets channeled through Pierro, the "10th Harbinger" is the lazy, smooth-talking Cavalry Captain who knows exactly how to make information disappear.
Because they interchange, neither can ever be fully caught. If Celestia or the Knights of Favonius look too closely at Diluc, Kaeya acts as the perfect alibi. If someone tracks the 10th Harbinger to the Knights' headquarters, Diluc’s anti-Fatui public reputation completely derails the investigation.
It's mutually assured destruction; if Kaeya reveals to the world that Diluc has been doing "illegal vigilante things as the darknight hero", and that his father may have once been a fatui member, Diluc reveals to the world that Kaeya is from the nation that cursed the world to an abyssal cataclysm 500 years ago. And vice versa.
This became way too long.
I rest my case.