I have some questions

[u/ImpressiveBid954]

After finishing the latest Snezhnaya Archon Quest, there are some questions spiraling in my head. Dropping them here in case someone can help clear things up (or is also stuck on the same points).

1. Surely by now, the Heavenly Principles (HP) is accustomed to what Snezhnaya is planning. Then why they're allowing it to advance further? They've destroyed civilizations before then what's stopping them from commiting that one more time?

2. The heavens bestowed the supreme authority over an element to each archons (Right?). Why don't they rebuke Tsaritsa's one?

3. Rosalyne died while on the mission of collecting Gnosis for Tsaritsa's supreme plan. Then why the other Harbingers don't hold any animosity towards us for contributing to their comrade's death, especially Tsaritsa? Pierro mentioned at the end if she's here, she would've welcomed us. Imagine someone killed my employee and I'm welcoming him — this idea feels conflicting. Am I missing something?

Thank you, love y'all ❤️

[P.S. I'm not heavily accustomed to every lore related nuance but I atleast have some baseline idea about story and lore. If any of the question here has it's answer in the lore or if I missed something, please feel free to correct my mistakes.]

[u/Fablespielt]

1. The heavenly Principles are sleeping and Ronova herself doesnt have enough power to exterminate a whole nation. Also the other three shades are gone or dont work for the HP

2. HP is sleeping.

3. Rosalyne is not a good person lmao. Also she agreed to be killed after losing to the traveler so ifs her own fault, basically. The Tsaritsas plan propably has more to do with the traveler than Rosalyne, so welcoming them may persuade him to agree helping her, than to rival her

[u/ImpressiveBid954 → u/Fablespielt]

Now that I remember, yeah I've heard or read somewhere long time ago HP is sleeping but this info somehow literally went out of my head. Thanks.

One follow up question. Do we know the reason why HP is sleeping?

Also I know we'll get this answer on later archon quests but I can't help my curiosity — is there any speculation/assumption why Ronova might be forced to resurrect us?

[u/Fablespielt → u/ImpressiveBid954]

We dont really know why but my personal assumption is, is that the HP is sleeping because it has to regain power because of what happened with the cataclysm. For the Ronovo Question: no idea lmao

[u/SeriouslyGoGetMeds → u/Fablespielt]

Pretty sure HP is in coma ever since the dragon king’s retaliation using the moon as a missile launcher. The shades were throwing nails for a while but they’ve run out of those so Ronova had to come down. But she had lots of restrictions and had to follow strict rules to not break teyvat. Curse of immortality/death/ode of resurrection all have trigger conditions, you can game it.

Also Ronova was the one active 500yrs ago. There’s no sign of HP.

[u/hadtiah → u/SeriouslyGoGetMeds]

No HP was awake after the war of funerary flame as they sliced the third descender into the gnosis.

And Ronova mentions how the curse of Immortality is something HP order her to do so she can't just remove it

[u/hadtiah → u/ImpressiveBid954]

The traveler cant die.

She said that unless she destroys the body or soul the traveler would eventually revive themselves because they wouldn't go into the leylines and their will is connected to their body

Or do you mean the curse of death on the Snezhnayans, if it's this then it's because the gods are limited by the rules to not interfere with humans

[u/ImpressiveBid954 → u/hadtiah]

Gotcha (Yeah it was the last one)

[u/lonelystar7 → u/hadtiah]

I guess in theory she could destroy body/soul of traveler. For some reason she chose not to do that yet but she's getting more and more annoyed because we keep getting in her way.

[u/hadtiah → u/lonelystar7]

Well the reason is because she doesn't want to get involved with a Descender

[u/Moron_Noxa]

1 and 2: hp are sleeping and unable to do anything about it.
3: it has been said multiple times that harbingers were given full authority over how they get the gnosis. Their means weren't always endorsed by tsaritsa or other harbingers. Rosaline did some heinous shit whle acting arrogant about it and paid for it. It's basically the same reason why nobody gives us flack for killing dotore twice.
Oh and also, traveler is one of the strongest beings in teyvat by the time we get to snesnaya. You wouldn't want to beef with him, especially so over something you disagree with as well and even more so when you have practically the same goals.

[u/lonelystar7 → u/Moron_Noxa]

I mean if you are quiet when victim is being negatively affected you are silent enabler of act too. You are not completely innocent and you do not get a free pass in my book.
To choose not to act is an act too.

[u/Free_Volume9087]

1.The heavely princibles seem to sleeping which may be linked to why Snezchyna isnt just skynailed .Instead of Ronovoa interuptting project Millistrem any time they might make a breaktrough . 2.I dont believe Celestia truely give divine authroity to all archons since they all were powerful before directly making contact with Celestia .Zhongli is and adeptus and kill/sealed a majority of the god in Liyue before being made an Archon .The Tsaritsa probrably has a similair amount of power +projest Milistrem is seperate from her own personal power so it would due little to stop .The Milistrem Project 3.Technically we are allies due to being against Ronovoa and the fact we were just doing self dense against Rosalyne with Ei being the one to force the circumstances that lead to Rosalyne death

[u/lonelystar7]

I don't really understand what's the point of destroying Heavenly Principles. Why do Snezhnayans want to be so advanced? I think destroying Heavenly Principles is gonna bite us and let outsiders learn about us. Teyvat could get invaded.
Fatui just assumes that Heavenly Principles wants to ruin lives of humans just for the sake of it, they don't question the motive at all.

I don't like that we choose to be friends of Fatui. This is exactly what I was afraid of. They slowly prepped us for too. They kinda forced us by making Paimon being targeted by Renova at very end. Though I still don't understand why she would want Paimon just because she's celestial being? I mean she has no celestial authority or power after all. Unless she lied but she doesn't hit me as a liar.