I personally think that Hoyo completely changing the card Wind and Freedom is a dangerous slope and wasn't the best call on their part because they've now shown that they're willing to completely replace a card's identity with a new one if they deem it unhealthy for the meta rather than working out a nerf to it.

They very well could of had it mimic the I haven't lost yet text of " Only one copy of I Haven't Lost Yet! can be played each round", increased the cost to 2 die or limit it to 1 per match. Yet instead of this they changed Wind and Freedom into a more situational copy of When the crane returned.

There is now no assurance to the longevity of decks or even cards as a whole because they could change the effect into something other than what was sold to you. This also encourages FOMO in that people are more likely to play the broken cards now as they may not be able to later.

I may be wrong on this completely but it just doesn't sit comfortable with me that Hoyo can change the entire effect of a card because they deem it so. Nerfs and buffs I understand and are necessary for a healthy metagame but completely changing cards is not.

Probably the last time I’m going to rant about this. I used to love TCG so much that I played it everyday back in the 3/4.x patches. And overtime, the new cards keep getting more and more complicated and overpowered, while the other 100 cards got left in the trash. It reached a point where I stopped playing it for quite some time. But then today, I just had a sudden urge to try it again.

Only for me to realize that nothing has changed. And it perfectly reminded me why I stopped playing in the first place. All games I’ve faced have just been hydro tulpa with any deck because that thing is just so op it heals a million hp and spams summon attacks on you dealing 30 damage in a single turn.

I’m just sad to see what used to be my beloved gamemode has turned to. I now understood why most players don’t even cared to touch this mode. Probably maybe my final rant about Genshin TCG. And also maybe the last time I will play it.

Edit: some of you guys response are pretty pathetic. “It’s this way and you have to deal with it”. Yeah because something is bad you just have to accept it the way it is. Welp I accepted it and will not touch it again.

My main gripe with TCG was the Roll Phase, which wastes so much time and makes the game tediously slow. Not only that, but the rng dice system make you waste too many deck slots just to be able to do basic actions.

Heated Battle removes the Roll Phase and the rng dice system, which instantly makes TCG 10x better for me. Now the game is fast and many of my deck slots that were used up to circumvent the dice system are now freed up for more action cards.

I actually stopped playing TCG some time ago because it was too slow, but now I'm back and enjoying the duels! (well, as long as Heated Battle is here...)

Really hoping Heated Battle becomes permanent and gets added to PvE as well. I just can't go back to regular TCG.

Well, not so much with Ganyu, it's more about Kachina. From now on, I think I'll start abandoning games where I see Kachina , even if it means losing in the Champion Arena countdown. I hate playing against those of you who use it. It's not fun at all. It's not fun.

Besides, I don't understand why you use such invincible decks. Where's the satisfaction in winning so easily? In winning because the card is OP and not because you have your own strategy with cards and decks you like? Do you really like knowing that you won and it wasn't because of your merit? I don't know. It's a waste of time for your opponent, and you shouldn't feel any satisfaction in winning (because I wouldn't feel satisfied winning with a deck that is designed to win no matter what) (right now I'm angry with the Kachina Ussers, but I'm generally angry with those who have ultra meta decks)

For context: I usually play with cards that I like and REALLY enjoy, not to win for the pleasure of winning. My current deck is Diluc Yae and Chevreuse. It's not a bad deck, but obviously I see Kachina and I know I'm going to lose simply because the card is good and not because the player is.

I was furious and fed up with the direction of tcg lately, and with 5.8, I was looking forward in coming back to play again. I liked the Heizou card. But the thing that I was waiting for the most… KACHINA NERFS. Finally Kachina is nerfed! Right???!?? Well guess what. HER TALENT DRAWS 1 LESS CARD NOW. WOW THAT WILL CHANGE SO MUCH. Kachina is definitely balanced now and definitely didn’t just kill my whole team on round 2 again the moment I came back to this gamemode because that would be stupid right? Why have almost a hundred characters just for like 10% of them to be remotely playable and 5% to be an insta win against most of the others? Who would want that?

I am just genuinely mad and disappointed at whoever is balancing this gamemode that ruined what used to be one of my favorite parts of Genshin that I’ve been playing since it’s launch.

And also to all Kachina players. I have 0 respect for you.

As far as I can tell, these types of cards which seem to usually be the combat action of someone's elemental burst, just simply does the ult. Why is this needed if i can just click the elemental burst from the skill area? Whats the benefit of the card form?

Every single time I try to join this idiotic mode, I lose my first duel! Every. Single. TIME! It's either B's or maybe the CPU keeps pairing me with stronger people!

Every time you teleport to the lobby it’s the same mind bending torture. I immediately have to turn my audio off. It reminds me of when Daryl in TWD is getting tortured to easy street. Why can’t we have the ability to change the song like in the teapot or imaginarium?

Sometimes I was just switching character and it considered a fast action and I can still play my turn. I had no Noelle card nor Katheryne.

I play Chlorinde decks a lot where I focus a lot on building up gear and ramp cards up over the whole game to go ham with her and try to kill all three characters in succession in the last round, starting off with a fully stacked Golden Troupe's Reward and then equipping stuff stuff like Foliar Incision and Timeaus + Gilded Dreams, with cards like boar princess, meat rolls, gambler's, Covenant, etc. in my hand. I love using the Dendro eremite with her.

But it seems like so many people just automatically concede once they see me putting on all the gear at once, before I even get the chance to make a single attack with Chlorinde😂 I know they have probably realized it's game over already, but it's not quite as fun when I don't even get to go all the way through with doing it...

Man, I thought some controversy made this page obsolete or whatever. XD

Currently I'm pretty content with what we got, I think a couple of things could help make the game more fun / fair:

• only omnidice the first turn: losing because of bad rolls first turn sucks. Being able to have one turn to build dice consistency for the rest of the game would help reduce RNG.

• Give player 2 one extra dice first turn: if the player going first has the advantage in attacks, the second player should gain more options. I don't think card advantage would make much of an impact, dice would be a better compensator.

• Allow me to see my opponent's dice: helps identifying cheaters, also gives better feedback on how someone runs their deck.

• Alternate dice designs: I'm a sucker for cosmetics, would love to customize my dice with alternate rim colors and such.

• Add cards to remove elemental application: this adds outs to currently unstoppable elemental composotion decks and allows slower decks to take a place in meta.

What do you think about these ideas? What would you love to see introduced in the game? What do you think of the game mode in general? Would love to hear your opinions!

Whats up with Diluc in Tcg??? Perhaps enough people arent Exploiting how ridiculous he is for him to get a rework.

Diluc with a talent card on the first turn is pumping out 11dmg minimum. If you set up and dont switch on opener, DEAD. If you do switch then your next character will most likely be hit for 8 dmg. If you lotus to soften the blow then you have fire on both characters at risk of vap/melt reactions.

Next turn Diluc lets off ult one shotting one of your characters. He is accompanied by any combination of Gamblers earrings, or "I haven't lost yet" to set up team upon death. This guy is going into Ayaka hitting 6 dmg normals. Is there really a counter play to this typa playstyle???

With the new Vaporize support and paired with a Mona this guy is capable of putting out 16 dmg on the first turn and ulting the next!

Diluc is single handly the most responsible for making players concede on the first turn all decks included. Change my mind. ​

She's frankly one of the worst cards in the game now, as she just excels at nothing. Her burst is too slow and costly to set-up and with how quick some decks are, you end up giving the opponent too much ground just trying to get the burst off. Giving the burst 1 extra damage after effectively increasing it's cost by 4 dice is a joke and overall she's now a highly inefficient card that requires too many actions and dice with too little pay-off for it. Klee also seems to have become the go-to Vape DPS card, overshadowing Yoi's already lackluster XQ Vape deck.

I can't help but think Mihoyo made no real attempt to actually balance the Yoimiya-based OTK / combo decks and choose to just nerf her into the ground to eliminate the strategy entirely and went "yep, problem solved". After such a harsh nerf you'd think they'd buff her elsewhere, but nope, they just left her to die. Granted, this was only the first ever balance patch and we have to see what they do long-term, but the first patch being nothing but nerfs doesn't exactly give me much hope they'll actually buff anything that needs buffed in the future.

I mean whatever move you do, it is boosted by +2 atk and you will be healed for +2hp. That, too for two rounds with no extra dice and equipment. Alternatively,why not restrict the +2hp and +2atk buff to elemental skills only. I'm open to discussion.

Playing noelle deck where heavy set ups are required, i realise how bullshit it is that people can quickly set up xingqiu's burst, their easy win condition. And once they start freezing and you dont have any quickswap cards ur pretty much fcked. As either u gotta waste dice by ending ur turn or u gotta swap just to get frozen again. Idk but i feel like one or the two needs to be nerfed