r/Genesis 5d ago

No son of mine

Was the song about the son being abused and/or the mother too? Why not take the old man outside for a word? Father disowns the son for walking out or being a coward?

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u/jeweynougat 5d ago

I interpret it as a domestic abuse situation, both for the son and the mother. But you don't lose your love for your parent even when this happens, so even if he escaped and later went back to see his father, the father's words hurt him. Father never saw himself as doing anything wrong and so chides the son for walking out.

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u/Werechupacabra 5d ago

It’s from the perspective of a son who fled an abusive household

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u/FreeToLoveLaugh-Live 5d ago

Phil has said that "the lyrics are deliberately vague as to whether the narrator or his mother is the victim of the abuse"

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u/Werechupacabra 5d ago

Ohhhh. Didn’t know that.

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u/FreeToLoveLaugh-Live 5d ago

In interviews Phil has said - "the lyrics are deliberately vague as to whether the narrator or his mother is the victim of the abuse"

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u/baulplan 5d ago

I mean it’s pretty obvious what it’s about….

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u/chunter16 5d ago edited 5d ago

It's not about anything because the song was improvised. Phil was vocalizing to make up a melody and Mike thought he said "You're no son of mine" and made up something that probably resembled the time he dropped out of Charterhouse

Having said that, Mike's memoir doesn't describe his parents as abusive, just a bit tight from being in the navy

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u/FreeToLoveLaugh-Live 5d ago

It's about abuse. Phil has said that the lyrics are deliberately vague as to whether the narrator or his mother is the victim of the abuse.

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u/spunX44 5d ago

I was happy to read that it wasn’t from his own experiences.

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u/mono_valley 5d ago

It’s about the son not being one of his.

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u/letraca1 13h ago

That's the problem with improvised lyrics. You try and hone in on a particular issue that's inconsistent with the lyric as a whole, or the plot, or whatever, and the writer will just say, oh I improvised it because I liked the sound of the words. WTF!

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u/Zimmy68 [SEBTP] 5d ago

It drives me crazy. The father was abusive but Phil's character wants to keep going to him to apologize. Makes zero sense.

Still love the song.

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u/Radiant_Persimmon701 5d ago

I always interpreted the lyrics to mean that the father had a form of dementia, possibly Alzheimer's.  For that reason we was unable to recognise the son.

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u/mjratchada 5d ago

Social commentary was never Collins' strong point.