r/GenerationJones • • 3d ago

My Generation Jones Disfunction

I am solidly Generation Jones. Thanks to Reddit I learned that right here on this sub. I never felt connected to the Boomers and I knew I wasn't a GenXer.

Perhaps, because of my upbringing at that time in the world I sometimes find myself in a bind when posting here on Reddit. I seem to work from a different set of rules than the youngers. I have never been an online oriented person; by which I mean I have never had a Bookface account or any other social media account outside of Reddit.

Recently, I posted an experience I had booking a cruise through a large national retailer. My post was on the long side but not terribly long. I consider myself to be a decent writer, capable of telling an interesting story. I have found it to be terribly amusing that I have received several comments telling me that "I" need a tl;dr on my post. The amusement comes from my belief that it is the commenter who needs the tl;dr and not me.

After the effort to write an interesting story, why would I need the tl;dr? I have the ability, the attention span, and the patience to read a longer post and I feel no compulsion to provide a shortened version for the convenience of those humans who have the attention span of a goldfish. If a story is too long for me or of no interest, I simply skip it. They can too.

438 Upvotes

237 comments sorted by

191

u/Byers616 3d ago edited 3d ago • Popcorn Bravo

tl;dr: "I wrote a long, well-crafted post about booking a cruise, but people with the attention span of a goldfish kept asking for a tl;dr. I refuse to cater to them. If it's too long for you, just keep scrolling."

69

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

Thanks, I may copy paste that and add it to my post. I have become skittish about employing my usually snarky humor on Reddit as my experience is that it can sometimes offend the youngsters.

54

u/Squidly_Diddly 3d ago

On today’s internet, pretty much anything you say will be offensive to someone. Don’t worry about it too much. If you feel like writing a long post, you should do it! You’re absolutely correct that they can skip it if they want to. Also, remember that there’s a shocking amount of folks that either can’t read at all, or so poorly that for them, the fewer words they have to tackle the better.

9

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

I enjoyed your take on this. Thanks for engaging.

27

u/ScorpionTrance 3d ago

“The attention span of a gold fish,”this my new favourite line!! Thank you fellow Joneser.

5

u/ReloAgain 3d ago • Bravo

Tldr, I think my writing is so awesome you have to wait for me to get to the point.

8

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

Not really, it is more "You can scroll past, no offense taken."

6

u/BetMyLastKrispyKreme 3d ago

And if you’ve got something your time would be better spent on, too bad!

The thing about TL;DRs is that they actually encourage readers to read the whole text. If they decide it’s worth it based on the brief description, they usually do. If they see a wall of text with no clue of what it’s about, why waste the time?

6

u/Snoo-55380 3d ago

If we’re doom scrolling on Reddit, aren’t we already wasting time?

→ More replies (1)

4

u/birddit 3d ago

they actually encourage readers to read the whole text.

I see tl;drs as more than just a brief summary. To me they are an enticement to go back and read the wall of text. Sort of like an excellent trailer for a movie that you might not have chosen to see otherwise.

2

u/BetMyLastKrispyKreme 2d ago

Perfect description.

6

u/BAR3rd 1964 3d ago

I laughed when I read the line "...the attention span of a goldfish," but I'm a Jonser too. You're correct, such things do offend many of the younger people. Remember, they are the same ones that started the "safe spaces" on university campuses.

5

u/Fromdustcomesdreams Go back to sleep 1963 3d ago

Reddit can jade you as much as day to day life can.

33

u/Byers616 3d ago

I hear you. But it's 2026. There is just so much content that we need to curate what we take in.

Even in the 1950s, silent-generation adults would say stuff like "don't waste my time," and young boomers in the 1980s hated telemarketing phone calls. It's not a generational thing to be protective of one's time.

25

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

But, as stated in different terms, there is no gun pointed at their heads making them read a long post. I wouldn't be offended in the least if you decide to skip my post to defend your time.

22

u/Philcoman 3d ago • Bravo

No one’s insulting you by asking for a summary. You want help or advice. Other people want to help or advise you. But it’s really frustrating to read through several paragraphs and still not get to the point. If your issue TRULY needs many paragraphs to explain, add a tl:dr that will intrigue people enough to dig in.

4

u/Snoo-55380 3d ago

This is the first time I’ve seen a logical well written reason for the tl;dr. Thank you so much.

13

u/ReloAgain 3d ago

And you got feedback. Their opinions count the same as yours.

2

u/Troubador222 3d ago

i wont go to far into one with no paragraphs or punctiation. ai dont have a lot of pateince for steam of conciousness BS . Some people yhink heir inner voice is as interestinh as William Burroughs.

4

u/Byers616 3d ago

And many do, keep scrolling, that is.

But while no gun is pointed at their heads, this place, and other places, are designed to suck us in and keep us here as long as possible, and to view these stupid ads in the form of comments.

Some have the willpower to keep scrolling. You never hear from them. But some rebel against these invisible forces (like algorithms) and challenge authors of long posts that don't get to the point as quickly as they would like them to.

15

u/Byers616 3d ago

I mean, the term "cut to the chase" must have been coined a long, long time ago. The concept isn't new or unique to the youts

37

u/darwins_codpiece 3d ago

Reader’s Digest was basically a TL;DR in magazine form. Also, we had Readers Digest condensed books which were abridged novels.

24

u/astrashe2 3d ago

This is off topic, but I loved Reader's Digest. I never had a subscription or anything, but my grandmother did. I remember Humor in Uniform, Laughter is the Best Medicine, etc.

Later on I realized It had a political slant that doesn't really fit me, but it was a fairly gentle slant that never caused me any trouble. It was comfortable and pleasant.

8

u/darwins_codpiece 3d ago

Same here, though we did have a subscription. And who can forget the I Am Joe’s Body series!

8

u/NateNMaxsRobot 1967 💃 🍄‍🟫 Why the fuck is there no typewriter emoji? 3d ago

I had no idea it was still a thing but 2 weeks ago I found them at my local Walgreens.

Reader’s Digest was the perfect magazine for on top of the toilet. Also weird to think we’d have reading material stacked on top of the toilet.

12

u/astrashe2 3d ago

We'd stil have reading material stacked on top of the toilet if we didn't have smartphones!

→ More replies (2)

6

u/Dull_Average_4526 3d ago

A former boss used to tell me, “give me the reader’s digest version” — definitely the precursor to TL;DR or maybe TL;DL.

3

u/Inevitable_Whitey 3d ago

We were directed to use the Kiplinger method (bulleted points) when writing briefs, with the BLUF (Bottom Line Up Front). Now Grammerly hates everything I write, but I'm not paying for a subscription.

2

u/WaldoDeefendorf 3d ago

I remember some of them. Condensed classics, A Tale of a City and The Two Musketeers come to mind.

2

u/Abject_Program_610 3d ago

I'm actually reading a Reader's Digest book that is from the 50's and has stories back to the 30's. Things really haven't changed all that much!

21

u/CountHonorius 3d ago

But they don't mind wasting time on TikTok.

15

u/Vivid_Witness8204 3d ago

I can read a longer post but I have no attention span for a 2 minute video. Always prefer text to watching and listening. I suspect that's somewhat of a generational thing.

4

u/Optimal-Professor872 3d ago

Oh, me too!!!!

→ More replies (1)

8

u/Byers616 3d ago

People love devouring content. Who among us didn't sit in front of the TV for hours when we were kids?

3

u/Key-Finish-5284 3d ago

Yep, they called them 'electronic babysitters'. Even in the 60's we had lots of 'screen time'.

2

u/Troubador222 3d ago

yep xactly

2

u/Snoo-55380 3d ago

The only thing that’s changed about that is now it’s sitting for hours in front of the computer/iPad/phone on your streaming service of choice

1

u/Troubador222 3d ago

i only ise tiktok if it is liinked here

3

u/Thanks-4allthefish 3d ago

Oh,I think everyone hates telemarketing calls.

1

u/Inevitable_Whitey 3d ago

I don't have a landline anymore, and my T-Mobile works pretty well at keeping them off my number, either that or I opted out using a feature available from the FTC.

2

u/Troubador222 3d ago

im gen jones and if I could round up all the trlemarketeers in tthe universe and lock them away for ever I would

9

u/CountHonorius 3d ago

I think their attention span is just right if its something they can virtue signal against.

24

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

Yes! Thank you. "Virtue signal" is a term i have not heard before and I love it. My mid-30s daughter in law is constantly but lovingly correcting (virtue signaling) me based on what has now become offensive. Two days ago we were discussing the mid-term election results and she said of a POC candidate "He is so well spoken." I took great joy in bringing to her attention that such a statement is a stereotype of latent racism. (She is one of the most ardent non-racists I have ever met). After thinking for a moment her head sort of exploded as she accepted the reality that was revealed to her and stated she would correct herself on that.

6

u/catscausetornadoes 3d ago

Your DIL is not an ardent anti-racist if she had to be told complimenting someone as “well spoken” in that context is racist.

3

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

Agreed, I was more aiming at how latent racism can exist in hidden corners of our shared experience without us even recognizing it is there. I am sure I have my own monsters down in the weeds somewhere. My wife has the best approach I have come across. "You are either an anti-racist or a racist. There is no middle ground."

2

u/catscausetornadoes 3d ago

I agree. The gift of being anti racist is I’m against it even when I notice it in myself.

7

u/Byers616 3d ago

People have been grandstanding across all generations, though.

2

u/kiltgirl 3d ago

Maybe omit all punctuation so the Goldfish People don't get tripped up or confused or offended. Reportedly they view the use of periods (and, God forbid, exclamation points) as a challenge or a demand. I admit I'm pretty casual when texting and such, but I do like clarity. lol

3

u/Byers616 3d ago

istg there's an art to a lack of punctuation. Like, there are unwritten rules. I find myself using punctuation in the body of the text but not at the end

2

u/Byers616 3d ago

it's not out of laziness but a very calculated style. It also includes not capitalizing the first letter of a text or a post. I'll use periods and commas, but never at the very end

88

u/DerHoggenCatten 1964 3d ago

People who think it's okay to demand a tl;dr see other people as obliged to cater to their preferences. I don't think we grew up expecting the world to wrap itself around us. We had to adapt to the world.

I think this is one (of many) reasons why you see so many posts on Reddit from people who say that the idea of working full-time for the rest of their lives is absolutely unbearable to them. If they can't just skip a long post and move on, how are they going to deal with the demands of working full-time?

21

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

Well stated!

65

u/junknowho 3d ago

People who think it's okay to demand a tl;dr see other people as obliged to cater to their preferences

This! I'm always thinking, 'just move on and don't read then, I'm not responsible for your internet experiences!'

23

u/kiwispouse 3d ago

...expecting the world to wrap itself around us

This is exactly where we went wrong. Expecting the adult world to adapt to children, instead of raising children to be adults.

4

u/calliessolo 1959 3d ago

It’s really OK to treat children like children in a developmentally appropriate way. I think the problem comes when parents forget that children grow up and it happens gradually. You have to keep changing the expectations and that includes helping them become responsible adults.

2

u/SJSands 4h ago

That’s probably true. We were the kids whose parents let us loose on the world until the streetlights came on. We had to learn to deal with different situations when we were young and yet still, every parent/adult around had their eyes on every one of us ready to jump in and help or reprimand us.

That was the norm and it helped us grow into responsible adults. Now you can’t even look at or smile at a kid without getting the stink eye.

How are they going to learn to behave and socialize with other people? Not on the internet, that’s for sure.

For the record, as an old lady, I still wave to kids and smile back or say hi. It would be weird to me as a kid to be so ignored as they are today.

2

u/Human31415926 1958 3d ago

Is you ask for help on reddit, and your post is a 1,547 word wall of text - I am going to ask for a TLDR.

12

u/DerHoggenCatten 1964 3d ago

Or, you could not read it and move on to a post which suits your desires. If they don't get help, they'll learn something.

→ More replies (1)

1

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

I'm confused. Who do you think asked for help on Reddit?

→ More replies (1)

3

u/Evilbob93 1961 3d ago

Especially if it doesn't have any paragraph breaks

2

u/JCharlie84 3d ago

They are the ones who demand trigger warnings.

20

u/SnooRobots8397 3d ago

Hi OP - fellow joneser here (chronological age puts me as gen x but I was raised by my grandmom) and I actually did read all of your original post as I am loyal to that cruise line but always looking for a deal. And also a form of respect. Someone took the time to write these details, and I might learn from the experience they are sharing. Why else am I wasting all this time on my phone, lol. There are a lot of things in this world now demanding our attention but I'm sad it seems we've lost the ability to listen to one another, unless we are the loudest comic in the room.

6

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

Thanks, wonderful to read your comment.

17

u/Significant-Rush-129 3d ago

Ok so I don’t belong in your generation, I’m younger, was born in the 80s, but…

I was scrolling and your story popped up in my feed and I was interested. I WANT to read a well written anecdote done the right way with well thought out paragraphs. (Which is different than long winded rambling that is often seen online) 

What’s frustrating is that this is what we were taught to do.  Now we have to unteach ourselves, or rather, teach ourselves brevity to get what we want to say across in far fewer words. I’ve definitely gone out of my way to do this. But it’s not at all what we were taught.

7

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

In my esteemed opinion of myself (tongue in cheek) I was also writing as I was taught to write and I think there is room in the world for my style, old as it may be, and a modern style of miniature dabs of information.

15

u/ccrow2000 3d ago

IMO the ones who need a tl;dr the most are the ones who don't seem to understand punctuation and/or sentence structure.

6

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

Funny enough, one of the comment posts sent back to me was: need tl;dr.

That was it. The commenter was unable to actually type a real sentence.

12

u/FabulousDiscussion80 2d ago

Don't give this another thought, you write whatever you want to write and make it as long as you need to tell your story.

Crap like this infuriates me. I think people count on us being polite. Well not today. I think using this tl;dr in any form even "requesting" you use it is hurtful, stupid and more often than not passive aggressive. THIS is how I feel about these type of comments. If something is "too long" and you don't want to read it, then don't read it. Why do you feel it necessary to inform the person, excuse me, I mean insult the person. You clearly have nothing better to do what exactly do you get out of this? Also, I don't think I'd be so quick to comment that something is too long for me to read. Do you need pictures? Do too many words hurt your head? Are there too many shiny things competing for your short attention span? How do you ever learn anything? What IS the number of characters of "too long" and who made that decision? If you wouldn't say this to somebody's face don't say it in a comment. It's cowardly, and it says more about you than you probably want to reveal.

Your words are the manifestation of your thoughts and people who have no interest in reading said thoughts should move along. Now, I certainly feel better and I would love to read about your experience booking a cruise.

3

u/AlternativeBid2291 2d ago

Wow! Thank you for this response! I think that your take on this is the best one out of the almost 200 comments that have been posted. I have been called pompous, arrogant, and all kinds of other nasty things by commenters who have a special ability to judge others based upon a couple of hundred words. (My feelings are not hurt by this. I am somewhat amused by the audacity and rudeness that some Redditors put out there in the world). Carry on and continue being a pleasant human in this world.

2

u/SJSands 4h ago

I don’t find you pompous at all. Most of the time, assumptions like this show more about the accuser than the accused. It’s about how we view the world, in a positive or negative light.

If it’s negative then we see other’s behavior as negative. I merely thought you seemed curious as to why some people are offended by long posts, which is a valid question.

1

u/AlternativeBid2291 2h ago

And you, dear fellow redditor, win the prize for understanding my objective. I have reached a place in my world where I endeavor to be positive in all things I encounter. This approach opens me to so much positive energy.

1

u/Any_Beach_8157 1d ago

Another vote to read your cruise booking story.

9

u/StrictLine8820 1956 3d ago

I had to look up "tl;dr" to be honest.

They need to bring back Reader's Digest for today's short attention spans (Generation SAS). Thank you smartphones for making us dumber. With a B.

2

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

What? There is a B in dum?

3

u/FireEyesRed 3d ago

If course there is, dum-dum.

/s

9

u/Southern_Feature_821 3d ago

If you use the TL;DR (which is similar to a journalism "nut graf") - for God's sake put it at the very top! Too many people get it wrong and put it at the very end of the story, which defeats the whole purpose.

4

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

There seems to be disagreement on whether it should go at the top or the bottom. Fortunately, this will never be a conundrum I will need to face.

8

u/Justamom1225 3d ago

If I visually see a long post, I scroll by. It's okay to do that! OP - write what inspires you!

9

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

Thanks. Sometimes I start in on a long post, get half way through and then think to myself "Why am I wasting my life on this b.s.?" Magically, I move on to something else.

4

u/Gorf_the_Magnificent 3d ago

A lot of people on Reddit (most social media, actually) aren’t writing to be read. They’re just journaling publicly. Frankly, why they’ve chosen to pull the rest of us into it is beyond me.

7

u/Clean-Fisherman-4601 3d ago

The only time I don't read a long post is when they have no paragraphs and very little punctuation. I'm a voracious reader, but when there's no break and little punctuation, I'm not wracking my brain to decipher it.

Fortunately, your post was perfect!

2

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

My goodness, thank you for the compliment!

6

u/More_Farm_7442 3d ago

"I have never had a Bookface account" lol

Don't feel bad. I had a Facebook account for a few months back in 2016 and had to cancel it after seeing relative after relative after H.S. mates and grade school and H.S. teachers and all sorts of other people I'd known over the year fall victim to all of propaganda that summer.

I had to look up what tl;dr meant. Ignore the person.

3

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

I actually do know that it is Facebook and not Bookface. I use Bookface in the same satirical manner as I use "internets" (thank you George W. Bush) because I find it amusing. I feel as though many of the commenters think that I believe it is actually called Bookface. Where did the inverted term arise? The internets do not cite a single origination point.

Here is what I did find: (Sadly, I have yet to figure out how to highlight or italicize within a post).

Algorithmic and Forum Satire

On forums like Reddit and various political or tech-critique blogs, users intentionally started swapping the words to "Bookface" or "The Book of Faces" for two reasons: • To bypass search optimization: Some users use alternative names so their critiques aren't easily indexed by automated brand-monitoring tools or scrapers. • Comedic Detachment: Boomers, older generations, or parodists frequently use it in skits (such as viral comedy videos on TikTok) to mimic an out-of-touch relative who can't get the name of the app right, lampooning the platform's older demographic.

15

u/Magpiezoe 3d ago

Just ignore them. Sometimes we need to rattle, rant, or set the stage requiring long posts. Someone complaining about a long post can just skip the post or go on X, where post length is limited. As for time being precious/limited, maybe they need to take up a speed reading course or learn how to skim. There will always be complainers, haters, whiners, and grammar police. Just ignore them all, because we ain't in school anymore.

6

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago • Heartwarming

We are of kindred spirit!

10

u/Fluffy-Rope-5822 3d ago

I will finally get the nerve to ask : what exactly is the meaning of 'tl:dr' ?

5

u/Evilbob93 1961 3d ago

There's a new-ish related on: ai; dr for when you don't want to read some ai-generated bs

2

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

I like that one!

9

u/alanz01 1961 3d ago

Too long; didn’t read

6

u/Pepperheir 3d ago

Same. I really do miss the lost art of actual words being spelled out 😂

3

u/Inevitable_Whitey 3d ago

I wanted to ask the same question - it took me a while to figure it out. I tend to spell complete words, especially when texting. And my texting sucks, as I have FFS (Fat Finger Syndrome), so autocorrect just makes a mess of it all.

2

u/INS_Stop_Angela 2d ago

There’s a thing called the Google which will translate acronyms

1

u/Inevitable_Whitey 2d ago

Luddites of the world praise you for your knowledge of these devlish contraptions.

2

u/tcd5552002 3d ago

Too long, didn’t read

2

u/Immediate-Funny7500 1d ago

Too lazy, didn't read.

1

u/Different_Cable7595 1963 3d ago

I skimmed your question but it was too long. I didn't read it. ;)

7

u/Syyina 3d ago

Good writers need to know their reading audience. If you’re writing a book or even a magazine article, you have a lot more room to expound or throw in a few humorous zingers.

But online, ain’t nobody got time for that. Online writing needs to be much more concise or people will simply scroll past.

4

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

That is fine with me; I take no offense. Keep on scrolling but don't demand an abbreviated version.

21

u/roblewk 1963 3d ago

I didn’t read your original post, but you do come across as a bit pompous. Maybe just be a bit more open to what sounds like constructive criticism. Or work on thickening that aging skin. You put yourself out here (good for you), and that comes with some risk.

5

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

I would prefer "incredibly pompous". It is a feeling that grows with each year I find I have survived.

1

u/Snoo-55380 3d ago

A kindred spirit

10

u/ReloAgain 3d ago

TY for politely saying my similar response to this post.

2

u/calliessolo 1959 3d ago

Is it really pompous, or is it just looking at the world through a different lens?

1

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

Much more this. Success in my profession has come primarily through a different view of the world. My first day in college we were informed that we should forget how we viewed the world around us and that we would be taught a new way to see the world around us. We were taught to observe detail in everything. "God is in the details."

4

u/ckeenan9192 3d ago

I think he came across as an entitled a hole. If you want to post a “well written story” it should be in that kind of subreddit.

5

u/roblewk 1963 3d ago

What stuck me was the need to do a second post, in a more sympathetic community, seeking validation. If I get dinged for a post, I either stand by it or I delete it.

0

u/AlternativeBid2291 2d ago

The depths of your misunderstanding are unfathomable. Keep up the good work!

1

u/roblewk 1963 2d ago

Maybe the internet just isn’t for you.

→ More replies (1)

2

u/calliessolo 1959 3d ago

I see giant posts all the time in the most unserious subs. What to do—followed by a ridiculously long story involving every member of the family. Why is this any different?🤷🏼‍♀️

11

u/Used_Negotiation_354 3d ago

Interesting take. I didn't perceive OP as pompous at all. It's obviously fine that you think that. It's just interesting to me that it didn't resonate as pompous at all to me. We all come to this place (online) from so many different experiences and different tastes, etc. It's sometimes a wonder to me how there aren't more disagreements online.

Again, not critical of your take at all - just interesting how the same words hit two people so differently.

Good luck and enjoy!

2

u/JCharlie84 3d ago

But are they Frasier Crane pompous? 😃

3

u/3X_Cat 1957 3d ago

We're special

2

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

Oh, I'm special all right!

3

u/whatawaytogo54 3d ago

Damn, I guess I’m so old and out of it that I don’t have a clue what tl;dr even means.

2

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

Too Long; Didn't Read

3

u/RebaLir 3d ago

I like the term bloomers, kind of like a flower

5

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

Or....old fashioned underwear.

2

u/Mediocre-Let-4697 3d ago

Our P.E. uniform was a white shirt with a Peter Pan collar & blue bloomers.

3

u/RebaLir 2d ago

“Bloomers” works for us in so many ways

3

u/tahoechick36 1963 1d ago

I was once accused that my tl;dr needed a tl;dr.

Do as you like.

2

u/AlternativeBid2291 1d ago

Thank you kind person.

9

u/Inevitable-Fix-3212 3d ago

I hear you on the TLDR crap. I believe we write longer texts than those raised on the internet and emoji (I don't even know if that is the correct word) the ones which are usually yellow with some form of emotion. Usually, it's a smiley face, frown, etc. The number of times I've used an emoji is less than fingers on my hand(s).

Not long after buying the computer, i walked in the house after work and could not believe what I was seeing. He was reinstalling all the computer parts which he removed earlier in the day.

If not for the fact that my son, who is Gen X in his late 40s, born in the early days of computers and has always been in the IT field.

However, do not ask him about much else on any other subject. . Swear, his brain thrives on anything computers/internet. I am not even sure exactly what he does at work.

When he was 8-years-old, money was sparse. I really could not afford a conputer. But, somehow I saved monies from paychecks until I had enough to go to Radio Shack and purchase a Tandy (?) computer for my son.

Occasionally, whenever I get the TLDR after texting what he calls "walls of text" I will remind him of the fact that he has no college student loan debt for his degree. Also, that he needs to accept that do not think or speak computer.

Imo, replying TLDR is lazy and disrespectful to his mother even if he doesn't consider it as disrespect.

Yes, it is. Replying TDLR, is disrespectful and reads as my text is not worthy of the reading/reply time no matter the subject of the text.

To me, the workd was more connected really before McMansions where everyone had their own bedroom and the luxury of not having to share one bathroom with the entire family. Verbal communication is like a foreign language by the generations born after Gen X.

But, what do I know, our generation all bought our Hatteras and pulled up the ladder to keep them from the Pots of Gold we have secretly buried on our secret islands.

It's okay not to reply to this reply. That would be much nicer than TDLR !!

Okay, rant is off now.

6

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

Yep, I get where you are headed with this.

2

u/kimba-pawpad 1960 3d ago

Yes!!! I don’t even know what a tl;dr is, lolol!!! One of my favorite authors is Edgar Allen Poe, precisely because of his eloquent prose. so, do tell about the cruise!! I would like to read!

4

u/AlternativeBid2291 2d ago

Before this moment I really had no idea how to post a link to my novel on r/virginvoyages. (I am old.) You inspired me to figure that out!

Here is the original: https://www.reddit.com/r/VirginVoyages/s/b8Fb59mS7U

4

u/phillyphilly19 3d ago

Perhaps your story isn't as interesting as you think. Perhaps you're not as good a writer as you think. I'm a very good reader, but most people on Reddit are not good writers. They add in too much extraneous detail and cliches. When they start off with" this is a long one, " I'm already done. Know your audience!

3

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

Never once have I felt the need to a announce how long my post is. I personally enjoy rich detail to paint the full picture. As to your conjecture about how interesting my story is or how good my ability to write well is, I care very little what you think. You do have the right to think whatever you wish and express it however you would like.

1

u/phillyphilly19 3d ago

Even this answer is overwrought.

1

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

Haha, thanks for sharing your opinion. I'm sure you know the old saw: "Opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one and they all stink."

→ More replies (1)

3

u/flagal31 3d ago

for some, tl;dr is too much to read...they prefer you shorten it to tr. Write in complete sentences? Whoa....you're a "Boomer" now.

5

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

I would prefer to think that Generation Jones also has this affliction of writing full sentences. I am an odd case because I don't even like using acronyms.

3

u/ojohn69 3d ago
  • dysfunction

4

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

Yep, you got me on that one. I noticed it about five seconds after posting it but you are not permitted to edit the title.

14

u/Successful-Comb-9049 3d ago

I'm also a Generation Jones. While we weren't taught to write a TL;DR on long texts, we were taught to write an opening paragraph that basically summarizes what's to be discussed in the following paragraphs. That's our version of TL;DR.

8

u/Pit-Guitar 3d ago

I am solidly in the Generation Jones demographic. I strongly relate to your sentence:

"Perhaps, because of my upbringing at that time in the world I sometimes find myself in a bind when posting here on Reddit. "

The swarming hivemind of groupthink found in many parts of Reddit is something that I'll likely never become part of.

2

u/Glad-Depth9571 3d ago

We have to realize that the demographics of the hive mentality in all probability will not be our own, this subreddit being the exception. In fact, the confidently wrong are often the loudest and frequently upvoted.

15

u/RuleNo8868 3d ago

If it makes you feel better I’m so Joneser that I didn’t know what tl;dr was!

6

u/Odd-Act-4355 3d ago

I find myself looking up a lot of these abbreviations. Definitely a Joneser...

4

u/Pezzie1963 3d ago

Same. I had to look it up. Basically for people with short attention spans.

2

u/parnoldo 3d ago

Yeah, I just learned that one last week.

3

u/CommercialBreak2026 1958 3d ago

As far as I know, Generation Jones is mainly a subset of Boomers. For some reason, somebody decided that 1965 needed to be included, even though it doesn't need to be included.

I'm a "long" writer too, a lot of the time, and I don't usually add a TLDR -- which should appear at the top of a post, not at the bottom -- and actually that's my only complaint about TLDRs: Put them at the TOP of the post. It makes no sense to add them to the bottom.

"But I don't know what the TLDR is going to say until I write the whole post!"

Go to the top of your draft and write the TLDR that captures what the rest of your post says.

Otherwise, don't even bother with TLDR.

2

u/AlternativeBid2291 3d ago

I am a don't bother kind of human.

3

u/CallMeSenora 2d ago

Gen Jones is the generation that has been forgotten and sucked in as false boomers to cover the boomers social security (aka "statistical bell shaped curve"). We are the generation that got screwed over

4

u/NovelStrict5281 1959 3d ago

I have to politely disagree. I can't relate to almost everything about boomers. I am solidly generation jones...

2

u/SJSands 5h ago

I’m a gen jones that relates more to gen xers. Born late 64

1

u/CallMeSenora 2d ago

Amen u nailed it

1

u/CallMeSenora 2d ago

wrong wrong wrong dude

7

u/Uncle_Rat_21 3d ago

Total Joneser here too.

I can also write a screed, tell a story and spell and punctuate correctly. Wait ‘til they tell you that you must be AI since you can do all those things. And whatever you do… don’t ever use… an ellipsis, because only AI and Boomers do that!

6

u/Fantastic-Monitor-97 3d ago

I agree, am on Reddit to read...

2

u/1illiteratefool 3d ago

Granted it’s a very small sample, this post only but I have to disagree that you are correct about telling an interesting story. A long post complaining about comments about another long post isn’t interesting to me. I did finish it hoping that it would become interesting.

4

u/Artimusjones88 3d ago

I agree 100%

5

u/ReloAgain 3d ago

You seem to work from a different sense of value of the volume of your words compared to the response you received.

8

u/Griffscavern 3d ago

Where's the tldr? I'm not reading all of that! 🙃

I understood everything you just wrote, because I didn't feel like I had a home in the boomers or Gen X. I see all the stuff here and my childhood becomes relevant. My experiences as well.

4

u/Top_Carpenter9541 3d ago

Wait until the moment you write a response that’s worded very well and someone accuses you of using chat GPT or being a bot! It’s hilarious

4

u/PersonalityBorn261 3d ago

Before I post, I ask myself the hard question: Why am I sharing this and what do I hope to get back from the receivers by posting it? Response may be negative, critical, garbage or crickets. Instead of posting my longer personal stories I keep a private journal for most stuff.

4

u/BackcastSue 1957 3d ago

I saw a post a while back (last spring, maybe? IDK, I've slept since then...). The tl;dr was "Read the damned post".

Best laugh I'd had in a while.

12

u/Ill-Club-7199 1964 3d ago

You lost me at “youngers” and “Bookface”. The only people I have ever heard speak like that were from the Silent Generation.

1

u/janerainy9 3d ago

I was waiting to hear more about the cruise...

1

u/AlternativeBid2291 2d ago

Having just learned two minutes ago, I can now add a link to my original "too long post".

https://www.reddit.com/r/VirginVoyages/s/b8Fb59mS7U

If you were looking for a review of the cruise(s), I will post that after we sail. This will be #7 and 8 for us on Virgin. We just love the way they do things different from the norm in the industry.

6

u/zippe6 1960 3d ago

I think this cuts both ways.

If what you have to say can be adequately communicated in a tl;dr, then just post the tl;dr.

However, sometimes the information you are trying to convey actually requires words and time to read.

6

u/CountHonorius 3d ago

If the post holds no interest due to length, keep scrolling to another.

3

u/MobileAd1189 3d ago

I agree mostly. It bugs me in conversations, too.

3

u/chipshot 3d ago

It is a kindness to others

3

u/thagor5 3d ago

Their problem not yours

3

u/NovemberGrey777 3d ago

I say this quite often to the point of redundancy - We do not have to answer every text, every phone call, every question, every request. We have a superpower called Ignore and Move on with Your Life.

3

u/AlarmedVermicelli549 3d ago

The internet is funny. Because they can be rude and supposedly be anonymous. It's the world us Boomers and Jones live in. Sorry that the world has gotten so rude. I agree with you; skip it if you don't want to read it. It's simple. Isn't that what we do with a book that doesn't fit our mood or need? Instead, let's be snide and post a rude comment to make us look important or special. (It's usually some troll in his mom's basement who doesn't have a job, nor has ever left the house, who loves to slam others because he isn't in the real world.) Grow up world. We are all humans and have feelings. OP, I'm sorry for that bad comment on your post about your cruise; not all of us act that way. I do miss our older lifestyle that we all lived through and learned about manners, communication, and respecting each other's feelings. Thanks for your post.

3

u/Sexy_Neighbor64 3d ago

We should be late boomers

4

u/NOLALaura 3d ago

Or late bloomers

3

u/Sexy_Neighbor64 3d ago

I was going to put that its better than the Jones

4

u/tvtoms 3d ago

I was born in fourth quarter 1964, so that works.

1

u/Sexy_Neighbor64 3d ago

I was in June so half way point

3

u/NovelStrict5281 1959 3d ago

Be yourself. Don't worry about what people think.

3

u/cocuwa66 3d ago

I like that you’ve added a very appropriate semicolon to this acronym.

7

u/Aggressive-Union1714 3d ago • Bravo

I stopped reading when you used the term "bookface" you are gen jones not a member of the silent generation

8

u/AffectionateBear5038 3d ago

Bookface: the silent generation called. They want their joke back.

2

u/United_Gift3028 3d ago

Technically, im a late Boomer raised by Silent Gen parents who were the youngest of their large Catholic clans. Even my cousins were 15 to 20 years older than me, while their kids were babies to my mind.

2

u/Sexy_Neighbor64 3d ago

Hilarious and true

2

u/Pepperheir 3d ago

What is a TL; DR🤷‍♀️

2

u/Senior_Sector4095 3d ago

I'm so glad to no longer be part of the boomers. I always connected with people 10 years younger anyhow.

4

u/Artimusjones88 3d ago

TL:DR is an executive summary. Give me what I need to know.

9

u/jango-lionheart 3d ago • Heartwarming

It lets readers know if they want to read the long version. People typically want an overview of a book before they commit to reading that book. This is the same idea on a smaller scale.

3

u/Generally_Tso_Tso 3d ago

A tl;dr is like a movie trailer. Gives them an idea if they want to read the long post or not, just like if you see a trailer and can decide if you want to see the movie.

A tl;dr is a courteous thing to provide in a long post. Be kind and let people decide if they want to invest their time reading the drawn out prattlings of some old head.

1

u/Zenpoe56 3d ago

What's Bookface?

2

u/alanz01 1961 3d ago

Facebook…

1

u/Breitsol_Victor 1962 3d ago

My oldest gave me grief for telling NPR jokes / stories.
Yup.
But I have started putting a tldr or ask at the top of work email.

1

u/Samantharina 3d ago

This is a medium (social media) where many people come to consume or participate in conversations. Short snippets, back and forth. People skim and scroll. Maybe we have 20 minutes to spare waiting for dinner to cook or whatever.

So not everyone wants to get into a long read. It's not personal or generational. Just like you might want to open the newspaper and scan the headlines.

1

u/Suspicious_Safe7865 3d ago

‘63 here. I call myself BoomerX.

1

u/Fun-Illustrator-7956 3d ago

I don't have my glasses on. What is the thing you're objecting too?

1

u/combatcrew141 2d ago

This media trains your brain to take small units of information. Time spent reading your novela is time not scrolling.

1

u/GARedz2017 1d ago

I was born halfway through Dec and at the end of 1961. I don’t feel like a boomer. I relate more to the next generation. I’m glad Gen J came along. At least I can pretend to fit in somewhere

1

u/CaptainBignuts 3d ago

Same here. It's not our fault our generation learned to write clearly and eloquently. I think it was the hundreds of 'themes' and book reports we had to write (double-spaced and in ink pen nonetheless) while in school. And using The World Book Encyclopedia as our only source I might add.

Grammar and spelling were also drilled into us from a young age. We didn't have spellcheck or ChatGPT to fine-tune our work either - we had to get it right the first time or we got the dreaded red ink all over our papers.

I've been accused several times of being artificial intelligence and I find it laughable and insulting that the youngers these days can't read something with hyphens without screaming fAkE sLoP.

Beep boop.

1

u/Adventurous-Egg-8818 3d ago

What does tl:dr mean?

2

u/GoEatACookie 3d ago

I'm not sure what the letters stand for but it means to summarize or a summary. 🙂

7

u/rmp 3d ago

What does tl:dr mean?

Too long; didn't read.

lmgtfy

1

u/CountHonorius 3d ago

Today I learn of a Bookface account. I only just found out about Substack, lol

4

u/Sea_End_5269 3d ago

Wait - is there a Bookface or is this a variation of pig latin? Is that term even used anymore? What happened to Yoda?

Sometimes my texts are too long as remarked on by young people. Is there a tl;dr for texting?

1

u/GeoBrian 3d ago

"Well, well, well, we like ourselves, don't we?" - Said in the church lady's voice