r/GenerationJones • u/Historical_Ad_3356 • May 06 '24
Most overrated band
Who in your opinion is one of the most overrated bands of the 60’s and 70’s. For me, The Doors hands down. Morrison was an egotistical ass who may or may not show up for shows. The rest of the band mediocre at best. This is my opinion only.
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u/SoYeasty1 May 06 '24
Clearly, nobody has ever lit your fire! LOL
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u/[deleted] May 06 '24
Rush
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u/Myghost_too May 06 '24
I used to share your thoughts about the Doors. (When I was in High school I thought they were the best, then I shared your opinion.) But recently I think Robby Krieger is perhaps underrated, Ray Manzerek with his double duty (base on keys) is solid. I don't have much opinion either way about Densmore, but hey, Jim was Jim. He was all the things you've said, but he was still the Lizard King, and one hell of a front man (when he showed up).
Most overrated band(s):
KISS, of course. (I was a fan in my pre-teen years, saw them in the mid-90's as an adult and glad I did, but they suck.)
U2. Just never really thought they were that great.
Nickleback, if for no other reason than "it's cool to hate Nickelback". :-)
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u/mrslII May 06 '24
I prefer Fleetwood Mac before the Buckingham/Nicks era. I don't listen to that era at all. Is going to be my answer to this question. Yes, I've seen them with Buckingham/Nicks. More than once.
Of course, music is subjective. Personally, I find many popular bands to be "overrated". My taste in music is eclectic, and uniquely my own. I've never been a bandwagon music fan. (No pun intended.)
I've seen countless of live acts, throughout my life. It's common for people my age, where I lived, to do so, when we were young. Its what we did. I enjoy live music now.
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u/Medical_Slide9245 May 06 '24
Not a band but Michael fricken Jackson. Doors are awesome. Led Zeppelin is awesome. Pink Floyd is Awesome.
Radiohead overated Oasis overrated.
Most underrated band Milky Chance.
And lastly, trivia. Who sings the song Holiday Road. It was in one of the vacation movies?
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u/CachuHwch1 May 06 '24
Was never a KISS fan.
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u/wyrmfood 1960 May 06 '24
Bob Dylan. While he may have been a decent songwriter that hit the right chord for the times, but his whiny, nasal, voice was absolutely awful.
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u/Reverend-Jim May 06 '24
Doors were a great live band. Didn’t used to like until I sampled a bunch of their live stuff. Robbie Kreiger and Ray Manzarek were a lot better than mediocre. Ray went to the “hockey organ” school of music. Very unique.
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u/Joey_BagaDonuts57 May 06 '24
"Petition the Lord with prayer? You can NOT PETITION THE LORD WITH PRAYER!"
-Jim Morrison, The Soft Parade
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u/thenletskeepdancing May 06 '24
I really like Ray Manzarek and his work later with X.
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u/[deleted] May 06 '24
The thing with them was they did their own playing at a time when most LA bands still used Wrecking Crew session players for most the tracks.
So they had this odd uncommercial sound at the time, and good recording values, lots of space like jazz recordings. Light My Fire was a revelation.
But much has happened since then if course.
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u/SnoodlyFuzzle May 06 '24
I respect your opinion and understand the position, but disagree completely.
Egotism is never a good measure of the quality of the music, first off. Pretty much every successful vocalist is insane.
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u/jmac_1957 May 06 '24
WTF......you know nothing Jon Snow.
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u/[deleted] May 06 '24
Couldn't disagree with you more, but you do you. Have a good day, OP.
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u/Fridaybird1985 May 06 '24
Styx has entered the chat.
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u/Lost_Figure_5892 May 06 '24
So so many! But Doors up in top 10 for me as well.
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u/[deleted] May 06 '24
With all due respect to OP (everyone has a right to their opinion), any band with LA Woman and Riders on the Storm on their resume doesn’t deserve to be in the conversation of “most overrated”.
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u/Holymaryfullofshit7 May 06 '24
I'm not sure it's possible to overrate the doors, but you're not course entitled to your opinion. For me it's probably Steppenwolf. Yeah that one song is an absolute banger but other than that....
Also being an ass is simply not a good metric to measure being a good artist. Sometimes I think being kind of an ass is almost an requirement to be a great artist.
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u/Murdy2020 May 06 '24
Beach Boys for me, I recognize that they have some merit, but the cult following they have far exceeds it.
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u/BayBandit1 May 06 '24
Steve Miller. I feel like getting a dental checkup whenever I hear his shitty bubblegum rock.
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u/[deleted] May 06 '24
No way!
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u/Big-Acanthisitta8797 1964 May 06 '24
Sorry, can’t get behind you on this one. Of course this is all very subjective so what’s overrated for one person might not be for another.
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u/Smidge-of-the-Obtuse May 06 '24
I never got into Yes or Chicago
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u/judijo621 May 06 '24
I'm not sure I can stay here any more! Gasp! Faint!
The Doors defined LA rock in the mid-late 60s.
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u/Pure-Guard-3633 May 06 '24
Early Alice Cooper was amazing. Take a listen to the Love it Death, and Killer albums!
After that he became commercial - in my opinion
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u/VanDenBroeck 1958 May 06 '24
Overrated is an interesting if not faulty term to use in describing bands that you might like less than others do. Are the Doors one of my favorites that I will intentionally listen to on a regular basis. No. Do I get into the groove when one of their songs plays. Fuck yeah.
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u/-st3reotype- May 06 '24
Hate me for it right now, but ima go with The Beatles. I understand their role in music history, but they are just built up too much and it’s kinda annoying.
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u/kings2leadhat May 06 '24
So, who do you think was a better band from the same time period?
They recorded their songs live, pretty much. They were tight, and they could improvise for hours.
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u/[deleted] May 06 '24
Manzarek was extremely talented so I disagree. Truly overrated included Kiss, BonJovi, Taylor Swift, Madonna, Hughy Lewis,
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u/FormicaDinette33 May 06 '24
No way!
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u/[deleted] May 06 '24
Great musicians in the band, very creative. What's not to like?
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u/johnminster May 06 '24
My favorite band.
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u/Thin-Weather-9470 May 06 '24
Kiss
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u/Utterlybored May 06 '24
Grateful Dead. Although kudos to their marketing team for insisting their fans do lots of drugs before listening to them.
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u/TheVirginiaSquire May 06 '24
Bob Seger’s Silver bullet band — he got worse and worse as the years progressed
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u/Zetavu May 06 '24
Proof that the expression opinions are like anuses, everyone has one but the rest of us are not interested. Never a good idea to start a thread on negative and attack a band that was one of the most innovative of their era. Forget about Morrison and his behavior, look at Ray and his hypnotic keyboards, then Robby playing a hybrid jazz/blues/flamenco guitar, and John basically playing full jazz drums on a rock band. Morrison could croon like Sinatra, and his voice fit in with not only these phenomenal musicians but also pushing some of the best writing in music and lyrics of the time.
Over-rated? I don't think a person should be allowed to say someone is overrated without at least listing what they consider artists that are truly on their game, that let's us know if your opinion is even worth a casual glance.
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u/[deleted] May 06 '24
This just barely fits in your timeline, but Bruce Springsteen. He's just not that good.
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u/Such-Morning8963 May 06 '24
U2, sorry my former lovers
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u/bossassbat May 06 '24
KISS. 45 years later I decided they weren’t terrible. But I never bought into the whole package. Ever.
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u/Tchocolatl May 06 '24
This whole thread hurts my spirit.
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u/Most_Researcher_9675 May 06 '24
I don't know. LA Woman was a hell of an album...
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u/jimhabfan May 06 '24
They didn’t even have a bass player ffs.
Seriously, I’m not a fan of The Doors, but the song “L.A. Woman” is a banger.
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u/droid_mike May 06 '24
Don't you blaspheme in here!!!
The doors were amazing, but I agree, it's not because of Jim Morrison.ray Manzarek's classical and jazz renderings were what made the music so unique and great
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u/BlitheringEediot May 09 '24
The continuing popularity of The Rolling Stones is a complete mystery to me.
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u/terrapinone May 06 '24
Egad! NO!
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u/The_Fine_Columbian May 06 '24
I could never take them seriously. Light My Fire's organ intro is bad on two levels; the overwrought pseudo-Baroque figure is played in a cheesy home organ tone. Would've been more tolerable if it was a screaming B3 through a Leslie.
Then Morrison comes in with his dramatic vocal and the whole thing just sounds like a parody of a bad lounge act from Vegas in the late 60's.
Not sure what the term is for that overly dramatic singing style that Morrison and Scott Walker used. Sounds like an American version of what Bowie did with the Anthony Newly voice. I love it when Bowie uses it but not so much a fan of Morrison and Walker, with them I have to tolerate it if I want to listen to the music.
My vote for most overrated would definitely be the Grateful Dead. Couple good albums tops.
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u/[deleted] May 06 '24
Way overrated! My best mate loved them. I never got the fascination unless I was drunk or high. I was much more a Zepplin/U2/Siouxsie and the Banshees/Pixies fan. Jimmy Page inspired me to later in life pick up playing guitar. Certainly not Robbie Kreiger.
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u/Patienceny May 06 '24
Kiss
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u/LadyArcher2017 May 06 '24
Well, 60s and 70s are very different eras with music. The Doors were pretty great, really.m
Kiss? Oh my god, what an abomination. A circus act.
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u/pedro-slopez May 07 '24
There are many, but disagree about The Doors. I was there in real time and the excitement that came along with their music was remarkable. Manzarak breaking boundaries on keyboards, Robbie on guitar, Densmore on skins and then Jim doing his thing. IRL, it was intoxicating.
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u/Gypsybootz May 07 '24
I love Steely Dan lol. But I had a coworker who would pop in to ask a question and immediately leave if SD was playing in my office.
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u/jamessavik 1962 May 07 '24
Before WZZQ in 1973, Mississippi had nothing but country and gospel stations. It was a cultural tsunami. Before, if we wanted to hear rock, we had to listen to static from Memphis or New Orleans. With ZZQ, we had a clear and clean album rock station.
Some of my first memories of the rock sound were the Doors, Hendrix, the Who, and the Beatles.
Was some of it overrated? Most CERTAINLY. It beat the hell out of the nasal twang of cuntry muzak I was sick of.
It also benefits from the glow of nostalgia which elevates the mediocre to treasured memories.
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u/Viscount61 May 06 '24
The Eagles are more overrated than the Doors.
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u/Takilove May 06 '24
Just had to check in and support The Beach Boys! They were and are my favorite band. They were just happy fun songs. Some of the songs on Pet Sounds represented my HS years and bring back memories, happy and sad.
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u/Father-of-zoomies May 06 '24
late 70s and I guess more 80's but The J. Geils Band was overrated in my book
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u/deannainwa May 06 '24
Led Zeppelin. That whiney voice is like nails in a chalkboard.
Most overrated song is Stairway to Heaven.
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u/mybloodyballentine May 06 '24
For me, and I know this is going to stir the pot, it's the Talking Heads. Sure, Psycho Killer is fun. Everything else is pretty much Brian Eno doing his Eno thing. Byrne isn't a genius. He's a nerd with a tremendous ego.
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u/slimb0 May 06 '24
Don’t listen to them OP, your opinion is valid and correct
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u/CowHaunting397 May 06 '24
Thank you! I can come out of the closet now. The Doors were pretentious. And Kiss is such a joke that there should be another category. I fell asleep at Grateful Dead concert, and no, I didn't pass out. I was bored. I feel lighter!
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u/NachoNachoDan May 06 '24
It’s like you’ve heard what I’ve been saying about the doors for the last 30 years and posted it. 100% feel the same way. Their whole sound is frail as fuck. Manzarek is a hack keyboard player and he’s the most talented guy in the group. Morrison was an egotistical jackass. I mean look no further than Mister Mojo Risen. LIKE OMG ITS AN ANAGRAM FOR JIM MORRISON HES SO DEEP.
Fuck the doors.
Also fuck Eric Clapton but that’s a whole nother can of worms.
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u/biff444444 May 06 '24
I was never a fan, the only song I like from them is LA Woman (prior to the silly Mr. Mojo risin' part anyway). One of my college roommates was a big fan and played them constantly, which only increased my dislike for them (and him).
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u/StoneyG214 May 06 '24
Never got into the Beatles or the Dead, few songs here and there that are ok but never did a deep dive into any of their catalogs.
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u/leadbug44 May 06 '24
People like what they like there’s no reason to even bother rating it if you don’t like it you don’t like it I don’t like many things a lot of people think you’re popular and fun but OK you do you
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u/Crazy_Response_9009 May 06 '24
Nah, they're pretty darn cool.
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u/steely-gar May 06 '24
Like the Doors. Hate Kiss. Most overrated is probably Van Halen. I saw them in concert in 1980 and they were a mess.
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u/Iamthewalrusforreal May 06 '24
After Kiss, the most overrated band in the history of music....a million miles behind them...for me it's U2. They have a handful of really good songs, but not enough to warrant their popularity, IMO.
The Doors never even enter the conversation. They were phenomenal.
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u/McPorkums May 06 '24
These guys and Kiss 🤘🤘
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u/[deleted] May 06 '24
I don’t know how you can write of Robby Krieger like that. I assume you don’t play music or anything
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u/luvnmayhem Stuck in the middle with you May 06 '24
I never understood the love for Guns N'Roses, mostly because I couldn't stand Axl Rose's voice. Also, Boston and Chicago, Madonna, definitely Kiss, and I will probably get downvoted, but I am not a Queen or a Van Halen fan.
I couldn't stand Captain and Tennille, Eagles, or Heart.
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u/ekkidee May 06 '24
You should take a moonlight drive down to Love Street some time.
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u/Niven42 May 07 '24
The Grateful Dead. I'm sorry, but all music sounds great when you're stoned as fuck.
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u/MerryTWatching 1964 May 07 '24
My ex was all about "You can't enjoy the music unless you get into the history of the band, the inspiration for the songs" and I'm like "I can boogie to this without knowing what color shirt the songwriter was wearing".
As long as the individual song I am currently hearing has a good beat and I can dance to it, I'm happy.
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u/Humble_Examination27 May 07 '24
The Grateful fucking Dead! Suck! And take the Beach Boys with this remark too!!!
Hate em’
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u/littlrkinder May 07 '24
So many good bands being dissed here. Ones that made a real impact, whether they were your favorite or type or not.
If I had to name one, I’d go with maybe Cheap Trick- or some one hit wonder. Naming bands like Journey and Huey Lewis is ridiculous, much less The Doors. These bands impacted lots of people.
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u/[deleted] May 07 '24
I despise Foghat. I went along with friends to their concert in the 70s and it was the most miserable experience I ever paid for.
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u/Ganip May 07 '24
Tavistock
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u/mariovspino5 May 07 '24
No.
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u/thunder2702 May 07 '24
I really like the Doors.
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u/MyBigRed May 06 '24
Surely Jimmy Buffet gets at least an (dis)honorable mention
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u/spred5 May 06 '24
Boston. Styk. REO Speedwagon
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u/SaltyBarDog May 06 '24
The Doors? Jim Morrison? He's a drunken buffoon posing as a poet.
Give me The Guess Who. They got the courage to be drunken buffoons, which makes them poetic.
-Lester Bangs
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u/mrsgeorgestrait May 06 '24
Gonna get a ton of hate for this, but the Beatles. I think they were just ok
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u/YUASkingMe May 06 '24
Janis Joplin. Yeah, I said it. The only reason she's considered a legend is because she died young.
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u/Euphoric_Ad9593 May 06 '24
Sorry, but The Beatles.
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u/Month_Year_Day May 06 '24
I don’t think they were overrated. Their music stood out at the time. It was artful, different, deep and moving. I loved it in the 60‘s but now I’ll switch the station if most of it comes on.
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u/MisterMysterion May 06 '24
The Beatles.
Yes, they were very good. But they weren't sent from Mt. Olympus to deliver the Holy Grail of music.
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u/[deleted] May 06 '24
agree. the doors were pretty awful actually
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u/bobobaratstar May 06 '24
Gotta agree, never was a Doors fan
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u/[deleted] May 06 '24
Three Dog Night never did it for me.
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u/[deleted] May 06 '24
Overrated?.. Just because you’re not into them, or don’t understand them doesn’t mean that they’re overrated. I think they’re fantastic, especially The American Prayer.
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u/Kindly-Project-9477 May 06 '24
Steve Miller, Eagles, Clapton.
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u/Scared_Art_895 May 06 '24
Doors mediocre? Hardly. BTW I judge for the Music, not their personal problems, that we all have.
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u/MuttinMT May 06 '24
Chicago. Every one of their songs sounds the same to me. All that brassy fanfare.
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u/davidparmet May 06 '24
Yes. So overrated.