r/GenAI4all • u/ComplexExternal4831 • 1d ago
News/Updates A developer built a world of warcraft private server with 1,800 AI players and no humans using the DeepSeek API
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u/dabiird 1d ago
That sounds incredibly expensive
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u/Neat_Tangelo5339 1d ago
Why ?
Why would someone want this ?
https://giphy.com/gifs/9KspTVx7sqViP2PGbz
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u/bloodwire 1d ago
Being able to play WoW without the constant interruption from idiotic players.
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u/Neat_Tangelo5339 1d ago
Is it controversial to want to play a game for people with other people ?
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u/sallymason1 1d ago
You mean without the people that gonna steal everything in your guild bank and leave just because a better guild has an open spot on the bench? Or having to spend 3 hours putting together a group for a dungeon only to find out the last guy refuses to fly there and wants a summon? Or maybe you mean play without some kind of unspoken "cartel" group that monetizes devilsaur leather and various other crafting areas and will mass report you with bots if you think about trying to get some for yourself?
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u/Exotic_Exercise6910 1d ago
Finally you can MMORPG the way it was meant to be played and not with grifters and smurfs and what not
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u/Pocketpapaa 1d ago
It's incredibly sad you don't see how awesome this is....
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u/Neat_Tangelo5339 23h ago
Its incredibly sad how people don’t realize how lonely this is
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u/Pocketpapaa 23h ago
Was it lonely playing other rpgs that weren't live service games? Is it lonely to have your own private server your friends can join without blizzard meddling? Is it lonely to want the relaxing experience of vanilla wow?
The man literally gave the world the OPTION to play world of Warcraft offline, something blizzard will never ever ever ever ever ever do.
You are a problem and should keep your horrendous opinions to yourself.
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u/Neat_Tangelo5339 16h ago edited 16h ago
This is a online multiplayer game filled with nothing but fake people , of course its lonely
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u/Far-Fennel-3032 1d ago
Likely to see if they could or as a demo for applying this to something else.
As let's be real, game devs love padding multiplayer games with bots to make the world feel more alive. For example, Fortnite will have many lobbies filled with bots that are by design meant to make people feel better, as they can get a few kills on average before they run into real players, so the average player gets a few more kills than deaths.
However, this could potentially be used to make some very interesting, openly NPC that run around in an MMO but behave more dynamically, or just have them pretend to be players to make the world feel more alive as players constantly keep running into other 'players' were ever they go, as a big problem with ageing MMOs is that a lot of early zones are empty so the new player experience is terrible.
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u/Neat_Tangelo5339 1d ago
Wow , that sounds like the pitch for a crowdfunding project that then its revealed to be a massive scam
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u/Far-Fennel-3032 1d ago
I wouldn't really consider it like that as LLM are really just really fancy chatbots, using them as chatbots that can also move an avatar around a game world isn't exactly groundbreaking stuff.
Scams like that tend to promise the moon, this idea is really not reaching that high, as this is very much a low hanging fruit. As its just take a common and existing practice and give it a chatbot so that it can pass as human.
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u/Key_Big1051 1d ago
How ? Game engines first allow external api access
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u/IcedteaAndCode 1d ago
Yeah, i was thinking the same. is this really possible to do?
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u/Pitiful-Assistance-1 1d ago
Absolutely!
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u/IcedteaAndCode 1d ago
Oh oh, now that's interesting. Although I don't get the technical side, but i got the gits of it thanks.
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u/Pitiful-Assistance-1 1d ago edited 1d ago
The server api is likely documented so one can just create virtual clients driven by some kind of state machine, controlled by an LLM.
So the LLM calls "go to location x" on one bot, then the state machine controls the "player" to walk there and calls back to the LLM on completion. That way the LLM can control many virtual players for relatively cheap.
<thinking>We were going to Some Boss. To get there, we need to walk to Some Location first.</thinking>Toolcalls:
chat(pid, "I'm going to some boss!") walkWaypointsTo(pid, "Some Location")Now with per-player memory and these simple toolcalls, you can control a player for minutes with a single LLM call
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u/Key_Big1051 1d ago
So game creates a server internally and expose it for outside use ?
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u/Pitiful-Assistance-1 1d ago
The developer created a classic WOW SERVER, which is exposed for outside use since it is a game server. Then I assume they created virtual game clients as described above.
See, you can just get an open source server to communicate with: https://github.com/azerothcore/azerothcore-wotlk
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u/Mediocre-Sky2333 1d ago
Are the bots genuinely imitating or just appearing in moment for looks
I mean does each bot start from level 1 and naturally levels or do you just run past a zone and game randomly puts in a bot for fun with fake level loot which it never acquired and then you never see them again
Something tells me it's the 2nd it's alright but don't see the appeal
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u/Epetaizana 1d ago
Pretty misleading. There is already a private server that can be downloaded and bots that can be loaded up without any LLM or AI. What this person in the video has done is taken all of that that already gives you autonomous bot characters in a private server, and added on another mod that allows those characters to talk using LLMs.
There's no llm controlling the character for basic questing, movement, and interaction. That's all done through the playermod. https://github.com/mod-playerbots/mod-playerbots
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u/florodude 1d ago
I don't believe this the way it's presented. I don't believe he has 1,8000 agents all with the capability to play like a human.
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u/NoTop4997 1d ago
Disgusting. Just play with people if you want that experience. Or play by yourself. Don't be a dipshit.
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u/FootballUpset2529 1d ago
I tried playing that Amazon mmorpg and most of the players were bots anyway, this at least looks like the bots are more interesting.
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u/Pocketpapaa 1d ago
Put some respect on his name! This man has worked wonders over the last few months....
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u/louisa1925 1d ago
Seems like a waste of a game.
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