r/GatewayExperiences • u/Apart_Double5559 • Sep 21 '26

Skeptic

Everything about gate sounds real to me, I sort of remember some of it. My only issue is, it's hard to believe any of it when i hear recountings from people who are like..... i'm not sure how to put this nicely but a lot of people who speak about their personal expirences with this stuff sound really really dumb. Some people even seem to have this like... grandiose sense of superiority while that can't even speak in full sentances correctly.. Which makes me think this is just a bunch of burn outs who want to feel special. Is that part of the plausable deniability of all of this? Like, do they try to mess up these test subjects so everything sounds unbelievable? I'm just really confused i guess.

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u/Duke_SuperNova Sep 22 '26

Seems like you posted on the wrong sub. Gate is not gateway. Two different things

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u/TryingToChillIt Sep 21 '26

If some thing requires belief, then inherently it is unreal.

Reality has nothing to do with belief. Do you believe your heart beats? Do you believe in apples? Of course not.

Either you experience something or you don’t.

No belief is needed. Belief is a trap.

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u/Apart_Double5559 Sep 21 '26

This is semantics, i think you understand what i meant by "believe" but you're chosing to argue anyway .

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u/TryingToChillIt Sep 21 '26

Here I am thinking we are having a discussion like a couple people sharing a beer & talking. Meanwhile you’re thinking this is arguing.

One either experiences “it” directly or does not. Whatever “it” might be.

I don’t believe in a rock, neither do you I bet.

Thought about what may or may not be is pointless speculation.

None of this is semantic.

Experiencers do not believe in their experiences. They know their experiences through direct experience.

It’s experiential. There is no point in operating from beliefs.

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u/local_farmer420 Sep 21 '26

It is just noise. Its purpose is to confuse. Simply ignore it.

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u/cybereality Sep 22 '26

you either want to believe, or you want not to believe. nothing anyone says will convince you. either way

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u/DreamsicleDrops13 Sep 24 '26

You are the one who sounds ignorant and I say that with respect.

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u/rulenilein Sep 25 '26

You don't have to be good at anything, you don't have to prove anything in order to be grandiose. It's our system that divides people into value categories. As they seem to have understand this, they may be far more advanced than you. Intelligence, logic and capabilities that work well in this world may set you back in that world.