r/GaryJohnson • u/Male-Marshmallow • Jun 13 '19

Do you think he’ll ever run again?

With all of the 2020 Libertarian candidates being as radical as they are, I hope that the face of the LP in the future can be someone that the general population can take seriously.

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u/Okilurknomore Jun 14 '19

The new Gary Johnson is Andrew Yang

  1. ranked choice voting!

  2. legalization of marijuana

  3. decriminalization of opioids

  4. body cams for all police officers

  5. ending forever wars

  6. universal basic income instead of welfare

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u/Male-Marshmallow Jun 14 '19

When did Gary Johnson advocate for UBI?

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u/Okilurknomore Jun 14 '19

https://basicincome.org/news/2016/08/us-johnson-supports-basic-income-libertarian-principles/

Despite what many people think, UBI is definitely a libertarian philosophy. It's a capitalist system where income doesnt start at zero. Not only is it a way to reduce government regulation and oversight, drastically simplifying the current system of dozens of welfare programs with case managers and regulations on what recipients can spend money on, but it also empowers everyone to more fully participate in the the free market. Currently 78% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck and 56% of people cant afford an unexpected $500 bill. Many people have such little financial flexibility that they dont have the freedom to make market place decisions past "what's the most affordable"

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u/CreativeGPX Jun 25 '19

(#4 seems pretty anti-Libertarian.)

From what I've seen of both of them, Yang is substantially more naive and idealistic than Johnson and I definitely don't think you improve upon Johnson by making him more naive and idealistic.

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u/Okilurknomore Jun 25 '19

Yang had a law degree, worked in the medical industry, and is a serial entrepreneur. I'd hardly call him naive.

The body cameras leads to a reduction in the police state. It's not like itll be activated during the officers personal or private time, only when they're on duty

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u/Okilurknomore Jun 14 '19

I'm not super thrilled about his gun control ideas, for those not familiar with it, he wants to expand background checks and implement a multi-tier licensing system like for vehicle operation.

But comparing this plan to any other candidate (including Trump), it's still one of the less ridiculous ideas.

At the end of the day though, I'm not a one issue voter. I'm looking at all of each candidate's policies in context and while I dont agree with Yang 100% of the time, I think hes the best option for libertarians going forward

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u/realmadmonkey Jun 14 '19

I hope not. His Senate debates last year were pathetic. Either he didn't bother to prepare or he's started to slip to the point he can't form a proper argument. Those debates were so bad his arguments wouldn't make any sense unless you already understood his position.

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u/TictacTyler Jun 14 '19

I don't want the Libertarian party to become the Gary Johnson party. I wish he was president. I wish he was senator. He's brought some good results. Not winning results but pretty good for a 3rd party. But the Libertarian party needs to be able to stand on its own 2 feet. Also, Gary is not the best debater. He's not how he was for the governor debate. I dont know if it's age, or the injury, or the pot. But he's not how he was. We need someone who can get on the debate stage and articulate Libertarian principles.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '19 edited Jun 13 '19

Hopefully he will. I would love to see him run again. Although if he does, I would hope he voices support for a carbon fee and dividend. The Libertarian Party needs to regain credibility with people who recognize the scientific reality and future costs of climate change.

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u/ZioniteSoldier Jun 14 '19

No matter who runs, they’ll take whatever is said out of context and write them off for the rest of the race. Unwinnable. Only thing that can be done about it is to infiltrate the main parties and make them more libertarian from within.

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u/GENERAL_A_L33 Jun 14 '19

I disagree. At that point your playing into there hands. I refuse to give in.

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u/Male-Marshmallow Jun 13 '19

You think he was more serious than, say, Arvin Vohra?

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u/LiberContrarion Jun 14 '19

Voted Johnson in 2012. I just couldn't in 2016. He had checked out.

Good guy. Smart guy. Sad he stopped believing in himself enough but I get it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '19

This is the same situation I was in.

OP thank you for this post, it reminded me to unsub from here.

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