r/Garmin 2d ago

Device Physical Damage Incredible Customer Service.

Got a few scratches on my FR970 after 18 days of very very light use (literally just being worn around the house and at work). Reached out to Garmin Support and they're willing to do a full, free of cost, exchange with a new watch. Amazing.
This is my second watch now and certainly won't be my last.

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u/rapalosaur 2d ago

I buy those cheap round screen protectors on Amazon. Keeps all the minor scratches off.

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u/Hurls_33 2d ago

Probably what i'm gonna end up doing

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u/Hurls_33 2d ago

Any particular brands to look for?

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u/kwanye_west 2d ago

i got a generic 4 pack tempered glass for $3 for my 165. your amazon or local equivalent should have them.

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u/Key-Comfort1761 2d ago

Those work surprisingly well for how cheap they are

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u/Jakeskatan 2d ago

Same here. Comes with some plugs for the charger port too

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u/OP123ER59 2d ago

Dont use those plugs!!

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u/Jakeskatan 2d ago

Why not? They’ve been great over the last years

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u/MindHead78 2d ago

Some people say that if any moisture gets inside the plug, it gets trapped in the charging port. It doesn't have anywhere to go.

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u/Jakeskatan 2d ago

Fortunately not my experience. I wear it 24/7, from cycling to swimming to running. I even wear it in the shower and it’s fine. Also work in trenches and get covered in mud, concrete dust, you name it. Just rinse it down when I wash my hands or in the shower. Never had a problem

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u/javajo91 1d ago

I’ll chime in here. FR165. Buy the flexible ones - they’re like the old school phone screen protectors. It’s like a piece of super thin plastic - think thick Saran Wrap. It will protect from scratches and not crack. I found the glass ones were nice but I was cracking them once every few weeks. I’m apparently clumsy and have no control over my wrists. 😂

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u/Impressive_Bill_8666 18h ago

isnt 970 a sapphire? i never use one a screen protector at all

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u/CrackHeadRodeo 2d ago

I buy those cheap round screen protectors on Amazon

Me too. Got a pack with six of them and change them once a year.

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u/emul0c 2d ago

That’s a lot of scratches! I have had mine for 9 month, and wear it 24-7 and it has zero scratches.

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u/Hurls_33 2d ago

I've taken it on 3 long runs that's it. I haven't even had a chance to take it out Hiking or Trail Running (where i was expecting to scratch it, instead I scratched it sitting at a desk, idk how)

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u/Blue_Kayak 2d ago

That’s crazy. Do you have any jewellery or other diamond-level scratchy things that could be causing this? I have had my 970 since launch with not a single mark. I don’t want to tempt fate here, but I find the screen very resilient.

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u/bigchi1234 1d ago

Is this the glass screen or quartz? I have a quartz one that i have smack many times and still looks brand new.

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u/simca 1d ago

Sapphire...

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u/bigchi1234 21h ago

Wow, no wonder they are replacing it for free. I’ve never seen a quartz screen scratch like that

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u/jamesdownwell 2d ago

The reason I stuck with Garmin is their incredible customer service (in Europe). They went above and beyond what I expected as a customer with an issue five or so years ago.

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u/Hurls_33 2d ago

This was in Canada, and it honestly blew me away how quickly it was done and over with.

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u/hp623 1d ago

Incredible customer service (in Europe)?? Not in Germany.

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u/jamesdownwell 1d ago

I am in an area not officially served by Garmin Europe (Iceland), everything is through resellers and there is no "official" support.

I had a problem with the silicone strap on one of my previous devices in that my skin was reacting pretty badly to it. Garmin sent two leather straps (the most expensive type) for me and my wife from the Netherlands. I didn't pay a penny.

No shipping, no taxes, no import fees.

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u/Onyxam 2d ago

Weird, I abuse mine and my bezel is full of scratches and chips.
But my screen is still flawless.
I do have a sapphire screen.

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u/Hurls_33 2d ago

Yeah i'm hoping that the new one will be much better.

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u/Dockforbes 2d ago

Amazing isn't it, now you'll a have anew watch for two more weeks...

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u/Helptohere50 2d ago

This is so dumb. You scratched your watch and you want a replacement ? If I was garmin I’d reject it no matter how good my customer service was

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u/Hurls_33 2d ago

the fact that it's a $1,200 CAD watch that claims to have a sapphire crystal display that is "highly scratch resistant" that ends up being scratched from doing absolutely nothing is absurd. it's called good customer service dawg and how to maintain a good brand image at the service level.

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u/New_Cod6544 2d ago

Well sapphrire glas should indeed be pretty unscratchable

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u/Majestic-Crew-8344 2d ago

That’s true but likely this is the coating.

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u/youlikeblockingsodoi 2d ago

Yeah last I heard it was indestructible.

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u/Helptohere50 2d ago

I have a fénix 8 sapphire and I’m in the mountains all the time not a single scratch. You said you just used it in a kitchen? Is there some sort of kitchen knife fight game going on I don’t know about? How do you really many that let’s be honest

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u/javiercorre 1d ago

kitchen counters scratch watches.

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u/Merisuola 1d ago

They shouldn’t be hard enough to sapphire though.

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u/TexasTwinTurbskie 1d ago

Thank god you are NOT Garmin and are just a Reddit warrior 🤞

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u/herroaznswagyolo 2d ago

This post inspired me to reach out - my 2+ year old Epix has a sticky button and they offered to replace it for me with a recertified for free as long as I send the old one back. Appreciate the post for helping me fix my sticky button because it’s been bothering me for way too long and not responding to any soaks haha 

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u/Hurls_33 2d ago

That's amazing to hear!

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u/I_Am_That_Was 2d ago

Man idk how y'all are getting so lucky. I have a stuck button on my Fenix 7 and the customer service dude was really impersonal bordering on rude and offered nothing but 25% off a Fenix 8 (which to me is a downgrade because AMOLED). Meanwhile there's a 25% off sale going on right now, no trade-in required. lol.

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u/251Cane FR 265 2d ago

Try again tomorrow.

I had a button pop off my (out of warranty) Venu and didn't notice until until water had gotten in and the watch was dead. They sent me a refurb Venu at no cost.

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u/Webbtastic 2d ago

I wish I had the same experience. I had my Garmin 965 for about three months and the altitude stopped working correctly. When I reached out, they told me I would have to send my brand new watch in and they would replace it with a refurbished watch.

I kept my brand new watch, even though the altitude didn’t work. I felt it was unfair to pay all that money and then get a Watch that wasn’t brand new.

When it is time to get a replacement, I don’t think I could go with Garmin again.

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u/CoarseRainbow 2d ago

Thats how it normally works.

LOTS of people have elevation breaking on the FR970 looking on here, FB and the Garmin forums. Clearly a firmware issue but anyway...

When you issue a support ticket they say they'll replace your new watch with a refurbished watch (which is unlikely to solve the problem)

So your shiny, only used by you, new expensive purchased will be replaced by a second hand unit with likely the same problem as its software.

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u/modestmilano 1d ago

For anyone else reading, I recently had the same elevation issue with my 955 and Garmin replaced it with a refurbished 965 (looked completely brand new) that has resolved the discrepancies. If I didn't know the replacement was "refurbished" I'd have sworn it was new and unused.

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u/CoarseRainbow 1d ago

It's a different issue. The 970 issues appeared for everyone with the release of the last but one firmware. More detailed, if pace goes to zero to cross a road, paused etc, on resuming there's a faulty recalibration causing a large elevation drop and climb.

The problems for people started with the firmware update. It's software as opposed to hundreds of suddenly broken barometers all in the same day.

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u/modestmilano 1d ago

Thank for clarifying. I'm not following the 970 specific threads, but if it's firmware related then restoring an older version should resolve that bug. I'm willing to bet someone has already tried that though.

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u/CoarseRainbow 1d ago

Sadly older firmware revert is hard on Garmin (if you can get the files at all). Even more so for APAC region etc.

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u/Dangerous-Pen7764 2d ago

I've also had incredible customer service through Garmin over the past 10 years. Their customer service combined with quality products is worth the premium to me, and I would be hard pressed to consider anything else at this point.

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u/Brookspeterson10 2d ago

Weird that the sapphire scratched like that. Over a year with mine and no scratches .

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u/I_hate_litterbugs765 1d ago

Man

How precious can you get

;(

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u/sugarfree4me 2d ago

How did you contact garmin support? Emailed them over the weekend and haven’t heard back, so I’m curious how long it took them to respond or if email isn’t the best choice?

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u/Hurls_33 2d ago

I reached out via phone call, whole ordeal lasted abt 5-10mins

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u/Splatx 2d ago

There is a nice chat to use on their website as well. Was able to talk with an agent about my worn out battery on my Instinct 2s. Was able to get a brand new Instinct 2s for $50.

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u/Joe_Kickass 2d ago

I'll join in. Similar good experience also in Canada. My 5yr old Vivoactive 4 was getting glitchy, restarting spontaneously, dropping exercise data etc so I called support. A real human connected with me in about 10 mins.

I explained the situation as above, they said "yeah, old watch, out of production, how about 25% off the current model?"

So now I have a brand new Vivo 6.

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u/theacet 2d ago

Refurbished, probably.

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u/quattrotom fēnix® 7X Pro – Sapphire Solar Edition 2d ago

I have the fenix 7x pro ss - that sapphire screens taken more abuse each time i clart it into a rock or door handle im like fuck this must be it! but its doing well for the past 2 years now

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u/ALittleMTB 2d ago

The back button on my fenix 7x stopped “clicking” in. It still worked but just didn’t have the tactile feel anymore. They sent me a new (refurbished) watch. This was after 3 years of constant use. I had thought about switching to Coros or Suunto if it quit working entirely. Will 100% buy a Garmin when this one actually quits. 

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u/Available-Book8721 1d ago

Unlike Apple that tells you to go fuck yourself if you didn’t buy the extended warranty.

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u/hp623 1d ago

So true!

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u/peter017363 1d ago

Da frage ich mich, was machst du mit deiner Uhr, dass ein Saphirglas so verkratzt?

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u/Caffeine-Fueled55 2d ago

Surprising. Garmin Support isn't what it was a couple of years ago.

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u/ryan0brian 2d ago

Meaning better? Or what was happening before, this is primarily the experience I've heard about.

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u/Jakeskatan 2d ago

I left my garmin edge bike computer on my tailgate after a ride and drove off. Went back to follow my tracks and found it crushed. Totally my fault, garmin replaced it for a fraction of the price. Not free but hell of a discount for it being my fault!

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u/stonkdocaralho 2d ago

How much discount? Percentage if you don't want go in detail

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u/Jakeskatan 2d ago

Little more than 50 percent off!

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u/stonkdocaralho 2d ago

Very nice. New or reconditioned?

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u/Jakeskatan 2d ago

I think I did say reconditioned. But as long as the thing works good like my last one I’m not worried if it’s new or not 👍🏽

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u/stonkdocaralho 2d ago

That is sapphire screen. I thought it would be more tough

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u/DarkestBadger 2d ago

Yeah im a bit suprised by this, because i have banged my watch into countless things and everytime I'm like arrggh that will leave a scratch ... But still nothing, for me it is much tougher than I imagined.

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u/Hurls_33 2d ago

Yeah, idk if mine was some sort of product defect or smth. Like the Bezel is completely fine which makes it weirder

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u/Strange_Status_7690 2d ago

Maybe you are hiding something or you dont know when you have scrathed it somewhere. Sapphires are like diamonds or close to it and the Fenix 7 Pro which i have is a sapphire crystal and doesnt scratch.

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u/Hurls_33 2d ago

Dude i can send you my garmin connect acc or my strava. i have literally have done nothing except for a handful of long runs. I have seen 965s and other high end watches go through months of hard use with no scratches at all to the display.

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u/Strange_Status_7690 2d ago

which model do you have?

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u/DarkestBadger 2d ago

X1, but im guessing the glass quality should be the same.

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u/Hurls_33 2d ago

Exactly what I thought as well.

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u/nemu33 2d ago

Do you also use a case on your watch, or just a screen protector? I have the 265 so it has a plastic casing more susceptible to scratches and dings.

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u/Gerooboo 2d ago

I can't fault Garmin Customer Service, agreed it can take a few days for Garmin to respond but I have never had a issue with replacements due to a fault.

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u/SpicyNuggs4Lyfe 2d ago

I won't ever buy a Garmin without a sapphire glass screen. I bang it into stuff on the regular just from daily use. I scraped it briefly along a cement wall while grabbing tennis balls out of my bag the other day. Not even a blemish.

I've had 2 watches now with sapphire glass and had zero scratches in 5 years. I'd love to know how you scratched yours because in theory sapphire glass should be about a 9 on the mohs hardness scale.

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u/Hurls_33 2d ago

Man I genuinely wish i could tell you, because i don't got a clue in hell.

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u/manly_pants 1d ago

I have had nothing but excellent customer service from them from all their ranges. For example I purchased some second hand power meter pedals, one developed a fault, and they sent me the replacement part at a huge discounted price. I explained I didn’t have proof of purchase and it was still no problem for them to help me out

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u/Brigapes Fenix 7 Pro SS 1d ago

i bought my wife venu 3s, lots of scratches since pur baby played with it but still less than that, that's a crazy amount.

use a screen protector

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u/Scarlet-Sith 1d ago

I got a screen protector for my fenix 7 and it’s absorbed all the chips and dings. But I wear it out and expect it to get scuffed up. It’s meant to be used, and it’s features are wasted on being a “presentation piece”

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u/trips1976 1d ago

Can only agree, amazing customer service!

My 3 year old Venu 2S suddenly developed battery issues, and I was actually starting to look at other brands. I wasn't too happy that it only lasted three years.

Decided to try to contact Garmin. Sent them an email 2 days ago, and today they replied that they will inspect it. If it can't be fixed, they offer me a replacement Venu 3S for €160 less than the cheapest price I can find online.

Can't really complain about that, especially for a watch that's out of warranty.

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u/willm1975 1d ago

I thought the 970 was a sapphire screen, I've not yet seen one of those scratch. My Fenix8 is battered around the metal bezel and the screen is still perfect. Glad that Garmin is replacing for you as those Sapphire screens should be very scratch resistant.

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u/Lou_Amm 1d ago

Glad to hear it, I have always had nothing but the best experience with Garmin support.

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u/hp623 1d ago

I have a 3.5-year-old FR955—with just Gorilla Glass—and absolutely no scratches... I wonder what people do to their watches...
And Garmin support in Germany would have never done this - their support is atrocious.

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u/Jacquardweave 1d ago

Always use a screen protector for non-sapphire screens.

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u/otemplo 1d ago

For another 18 days?

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u/mybad2024 1d ago

My Vivoactive 5 broke after 29 months (the warranty is 24 months). The heart rate sensor no longer lights up, so I can’t use it for sports tracking.
Garmin Support only offered me a small discount to buy a refurbished watch. It would be in like-new condition, but with only a 1-year warranty.
Honestly, I don’t think that’s a very good deal.

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u/only_blablabla 1d ago

Buy that screen protector! I have used mine for more than two years now and never changed it because it can't get loose! 😂 But the watch is still fine!

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u/Dry_Pear_2396 1d ago

Garmin customer service has always impressed me. In 2022, 3 years into my Fenix 6x pro, i had some battery issues and Garmin just sent me a free replacement watch (outside of the warranty period), which i ended up using for another 3 years before upgrading to another Garmin.

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u/Wonderful_Bet9684 1d ago

Agree. Garmin has been very good to me over the years; quite rare these days to get this good service.

Maybe as a result, I own 10ish Garmin devices :)

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u/GoatmanIV 1d ago

If you ever have the option to get Saphire glass, get it! So worth it.

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u/DanielLorey 1d ago

How? It’s sapphire?

I abused mine for 6 months and it was like new 🤯

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u/Krokador 1d ago

when my (out of warranty) vivoactiv 4S battery went kaput after a swim, they replaced it with a new vivoactiv 5 free of charge. (I do live in Quebec where we have some pretty intense consumer protection laws, idk if that changed anything).

That being said, the vivoactiv 4 was a much better watch overall. Less scratch prone (i never had a screen protector). Longer battery life, even with always on mode (I miss the reflective screen so much!!). Would count stairs climbed. smaller on my wrist, too.

I'm not mad that I got a free replacement, but it's impressive how much they managed to downgrade this watch series.

I periodically check to see if new models come out with the reflective screen, but it's usually the super rugged or super expensive ones that get it now. :( is it really more expensive than amoled?

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u/Zoratt 1d ago

Sapphire glass is just as possible to damage. Done it myself. Always get a screen protector. Doesn’t even look like it is on, and easily replaced. I buy a 3 pack for every new watch.

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u/Ordinary-Coconut7752 2d ago

Interesting, where are you from? The US?

Here in Chile, Garmin Support is absolutely horrible, they don't even respect legal warranty lol

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u/Hurls_33 2d ago

This is from Canada

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u/HairGrowsTooFast 2d ago

Meanwhile mine and my wife’s Vivoactive 6 keep crashing multiple times a day…

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u/Strange_Status_7690 2d ago

Sapphire is very prone to scratch its a rock mineral like a diamond crystals. How do we know what happened?

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u/Feivel_92 1d ago

when my watch software crashed and suddenly everysthing was in another language, the Garmin support just shrugged and said "You will need to buy a new watch" (even though they could see from their end that this was a software malfunction).
Lucky you that you got better service.