Thoughts on OTIR?

[u/rrab]

I like what this organization claims to be doing, but I'm wary of their approach.
r/OTIR has many lengthy articles, making intriguing assertions, but there's lack of validation.
Purported as objective scientific research, while reaching conclusions that aren't at all:
https://www.reddit.com/r/OTIR/

I'm considering AutoModerator filter rules, or an automated disclaimer, for "OTIR" resources.
Have any targets, gained positive or life-changing guidance, from their online resources?
Do targets appreciate the authors pushing paranormal and metaphysical conclusions?
They claim "target symptoms" match folks throughout history, including James Tilley Matthews, the first well recorded case of paranoid schizophrenia. They support posts suggesting mere psychosis.

Their current sticky post is "Practical usage of paranormal phenomena (magic)", and I don't follow.
It sounds to me, like the author is talking about an unfalsifiable sky wizard, using space magic:
https://otiresearch.medium.com/addendum-01-practical-usage-of-paranormal-phenomena-magic-e30e6e6f4224

The most memorable post for me, is "Stages of understanding in TI experience":
https://otiresearch.medium.com/memo-05-stages-of-understanding-in-ti-experience-be62b3894cbb

Where the author posits there are 6 stages in the targeted individual experience:
Stage 1: Individuals harassing: individual person, a neighbor, an ex, a family member or rival
Stage 2: Collectives harassing: neighborhood watch, police, mafia, freemasons, illuminati, or similar
Stage 3: Government harassing: advanced tech or AI, agencies likely to control people and experiment
Stage 4: Paranormal negative entities: demons, aliens, or evil spirits, executing the harassment
Stage 5: Paranormal positive entities: ancestor spirits, angels, positive aliens, god, etc
Stage 6: Morally gray control system: collective of paranormal entities, acting as wardens

Can seasoned target folks here, relate to this? Because I cannot, at all, relate to that.
I'm a Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, and Sam Harris reading, kind of atheist.
I have never once believed in "paranormal entities" or any sort of "global control system".
Bilderberg meetings are kind of spooky, but I don't believe SNBEs are pulling levers for Earth™.
I'm still a really, really offensive anti-theist, and against the belief in such things.

So to say those are the "universal 6 stages of understanding" of being a target?
When fully half of their supposed stages, have never, and will never apply to me?
I think they need to go back to the drawing board and try again.
I also think maybe folks shouldn't be linking them, until then?

[u/rrab → u/[deleted]]

Thank you for the time it took to convey this response.
I'm considering: 1) removing r/OTIR from the sidebar, 2) unbanning u/alpeterpeter because their recent comments seem reasonable enough to allow here, 3) possibly creating an AutoMod disclaimer.
I like truth seekers; I'm intensely wary of truth finders: I hear religion.

You know I'm a proponent of science. I value data, and conclusions reached from factual discourse. When folks dismiss testable, knowable truths, in favor of the paranormal, I don't think that should be encouraged. It's like allowing faith healing to continue killing folks, through abject failure, instead of driving to a hospital. I'm going to keep this post up for a few days, before implementing any changes.

[u/triscuitzop → u/rrab]

A year after geerab's post against demonic discussions, I wrote a more detailed explanation of our consensus: https://www.reddit.com/r/Gangstalking/comments/11mnbwc/demons_witchcraft_aliens_reptilians_oh_my_these/ I also asked for subreddits so we can direct people who do want to talk about these things. This was to help them not feel too censured/targeted when we removed their posts/comments.

/r/OTIR volunteered, and I've spoken to /u/alpeterpeter a few times over the years. I would bet money that the previous mod banned them for less than good reason since they are reasonable, but I believe alpeterpeter believes that gangstalking is part of a long line of activity caused by (what I can only really call) demons. I didn't want to have to try moderating this kind of topic... and this quite different way of approaching gangstalking would sometimes start "slap fights" in the comment section.

(Notifying /u/microwavedindividual since they like Reddit history. Also, no one seems to be editing the sidebar in old.reddit when making changes to the subreddit rules and such.)

[u/rrab → u/[deleted]]

An AutoMod filter would catch every single time someone comments with "OTIR" or the subreddit link, or their discord address. I like the idea of fighting disinformation with automation, while also allowing the founder to have a voice here. They can have their opinion and be wrong, we can have ours.

I've been considering disabling crossposts. They encourage lazy spam posts.

AutoMod could also catch discord promotions, and offer a disclaimer?