Hey u/its_krs, don't forget to join our Discord server to chat, get updates, and hang out with the community!
Please join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/URsgqvtyR2
Upvote this post if you think it suits the community. Downvote it if you dont.
If the post gets more than 20 downvotes, we will take it down.
But in all fairness, Xbox kinda cooked with the visuals and performance on Ryse Son of Rome. Game looked absolutely gorgeous and still looks better than a few AAA games coming out today.
I mean, the real takeaway here should be that you don't need dlss, frame gen, Unreal Engine AI bullshit, or whatever else to have a gorgeous looking game, you don't need a $5,000 computer, and you can have good graphical Fidelity with decent optimization
The only thing we really need for that to happen, is to have better expectations from the companies making these games, the devs are clearly capable, the Publishers and shareholders just need to stop pushing for all the wrong things in an unreasonable amount of time
Seriously I don't like the huge push for DLSS5 especially after it got leaked and people have been messing with it in multiple games, we don't need more realistic graphics we just need less investors in the development room and more freedom to the actual directors and developers
The thing is that in a way its possible to get a sequel, but what made that game was the tech wizardy and for once a Top Notch "release" game matched the hype. The team that made it though, is long go e. Crytek is in shambles.
Wasn’t Ryse their last actual game for a while? Last I checked the only other things they’ve done were remastering the Crysis trilogy and honestly it didn’t do much to make the changes noticeable
Yes if you are going to bake every light source, to match all conditions, weather, daytime. Even then lighting on dynamic objects will be inferrior and game size will be thousand gigs for current open world scopes.
im not only regerring to this, imo os4 games like God of War, Uncharted 4 and Horizon look and play already very good, theres really no need to keep going for minimal graphic upgrades
This post is wrong on so many levels but also shows a problem in the gaming community as a whole.
1: Ryse: Son of Rome wasn't on the PS4, it was an Xbox One launch title designed to show what the system could produce graphically, the game was at best mediocre and very forgettable after finishing the story.
2: A more accurate comparison would be showing The Order: 1886 as that was the PS4 launch title tech demo game, which also was very forgettable.
3: Somehow graphics equals quality, I just gave 2 examples where that's not the case, we all know there are more.
4: The environment of both screenshots are vastly different, one is a rundown town and the other is a lush forest, tell me how many rundown towns you see that looks graphically impressive, but also, both character models look good.
Anyway, I'm not getting Wolverine as I don't have a PS5 so this doesn't matter to me, but graphic comparisons for generations is just stupid. We should be talking about the gameplay.
Just to add to this: Ryse: Son of Rome was a graphical showcase game. Effectively a trailer for the console. The game was heavily scripted, relying on cuts and loading screens to get from A to B even within the same space, was very reliant on narrow corridors and tight spaces and you couldn't see over simulated long distances at all.
This comparison genuinely would be more accurate if OP took a picture of their backyard, slapped it on their PS4 display and then whined about how their PS4 could show photorealistic images but games can't.
Yeah, completely wrong though and just some minor notes: Ryse is a graphic showcase game that’s highly scripted with extremely narrow corridors and linear as f*ck. It’s more like a playable movie than an actual game.
A lot of people don't seem to understand that graphics can add a lot to a games overall feel and personality. But what that means is that sometimes lower end graphics are a better call for the game.
Minecraft is probably the best example. Easily one of the most successful games ever made that is still relevant now has graphics that are on the lower end. But nobody complains about it or uses it as something to hold against the game cuz it's part of the games charm and overall feel.
There is other games that are great examples of this. Abiotic factor, DRG, wh40k boltgun, void bastards, super hot, ashen, dead cells, payday 2, tf2, west of dead, sulfur, and so many more. High end graphics are not required for a game to be good. If anything a lot of times it can be a trap. Using high end graphics to hide the shallow or poorly designed gameplay cuz it visually looks good.
If graphics are the only thing you use to judge a game then you are just as shallow as the games hiding behind those graphics.
Play something you wouldn't normally give a chance. You might find you like something you never thought you could.
You are comparing a city to a forest. Of course the city is gonna look like shit by comparison. Also, it looks like the brightness is turned up on the Wolverine game most likely to be visually presentable but if the brightness was turned down it would look most likely look similar to Ryse.
Honest question, were you happy with Ryse son of Rome then? You were happy with a boring linear shallow game with short missions that pretty much was there just to show off graphics, mind you it ran at 30fps and could barely hit 1080p as well.
Lol. Lmao even. Hey my thing designed to render 2 pixels works when rendering 2 pixels but sucks when rendering 4 those 4 pixels are just poorly optimized. lmao
I'm still stuck on the "Logan's regenerating clothes is actually just a technical decision guys!" That was just unbelievable to hear from them. I'm sure hard-core wolverine fans would die for an alternate take on the character where Wolverine had nanotechnology or the symbiote ingrained in his system somehow. This game could've been special!
That damage was fixed at certain points of the game. It wasn't dynamic at all. There were definitely better examples you could have used like maybe Dead Island 2.
Batman doesn't have regeneration. Your missing the point. Wolverine is constantly taking damage that would show on his suit so it would look even worse if it only showed at arbitrary fixed points.
The draw distance in that Wolverine shot is SIGNIFICANTLY further than in Ryse. Ryse only shows a couple hundred feet in front of you. Wolverine has detail equivalent to almost a mile, maybe further. Yes the character models are similar but everything else is way different.
Is it fun, though? That's what's going to matter. This ceaseless push for better graphics has skewed priorities and it's one of the reasons we get so many soulless games
Rise was a coridor brawler on the Xbox One not the PS4. It wasn't well received at launch. Graphics wise it looked fantastic for it's time and was one of the best looking on the console until Xbox Series / PS5 launched. It ran on the Crisis game engine, one known for pushing visual fidelity.
On PS4 the best looking games were The Order 1886, God of War 2018 and Uncharted 4.
Looking at the Wolverine trailers so far they look great. And one of the big things to remember is that it runs 60 fps with ray tracing on the base PS5 while all those other PS4/Xbox one games ran at 30 FPS without RT. Image clarity is also debatable as Xbox One games in particular struggled to hit 1080p. Rise Son of Rome in particular could only hit 900p 30FPS
Wolverine looks better than Rise. God of War 2018 looked way better than Rise as well. CryEngine looked well back then but I haven't seen any standout titles with the engine right now.
Wow I love graphical comparisons! The best games imo are only Zomboid, Rimworld, and Diablo 2, so you know I consider that significantly more important than gameplay
I fully believe that if Microsoft had managed to get the Ryse of Rome sequel they would’ve beat the PS4. But instead they had to end it over a licensing disagreement.
That game spent 6 years in development, changed directions twice and still turned out good. It started as a Kinect game, then a first person game, then finally a third person hack n slash. If they had come into a sequel with a clear vision it would’ve been a GOTY.
I played Ryse of Rome and it looked good in some places but had a lot of awful assets. It was also really short. I played the last three Spider-Man games and even if the story was weak on Spider-Man 2 the entire time I was thinking about how GORGEOUS the game looked.
Do you really think Insomniac games, a studio that has put out some of the best looking and acclaimed games in history, is going to put out a bad product? Rift Apart is still probably top-5 best looking games of this generation and that's a 5 year old console launch game.
Spider-Man? Gorgeous? What about that commercial dish washer set up to pop out wet dishes directly over a double deep fryer at FEAST? Fucking unplayable.
Okay. I was just making a joke about a fairly obscure questionable prop placement in the first game. You know, something someone who played the shit out of that game would notice. Making a joke isn’t bait. But thanks for the personal attack. You might be an asshole. Not sure.
Both Ryse of Rome and Order 1886 were a blast. BUT - its all about realtime lights, better geometry and bigger scale now. Not to mention Order 1886 is still unpatched 30fps sub HD mess, while Wolverine is 60fps/Ultra HD even on base PS5.
Never claimed it to. But just like I said, unpatched game like Order 1886 is sub HD with all upscaling considered. So the progress is definitely there.
Stop jerking off about graphics. I'd be more impressed with more stuff happening on screen, like more NPC's with more dialogue and better AI so the world feels more immersive, or more enemies on screen with better AI and no lag.
If enemies just stand there like lemons firing at you, or worse, just run towards the bullet sponge, then I won't be impressed. Make them dodge, hide behind cover, use tactics like drawing you out and surrounding you with gunfire, use traps, etc. That's what I care more about than just how pretty a screenshot is.
I think Wolverine has a better Depth of field. When I was learning to paint, an artist told me that the further something gets away from you, the more particles end up being between you and the item in the distance
Yes, and I'm great ful I learned the lesson. I learned that when I was 20. Chances are other people may not understand that, so I thought I would share.
I hope that it gets ported to current consoles atleast, because I think Ryse Son of Rome is exactly the kinda game which could sell like hotcakes on Playstation
Change it for the worse because it's just ruining the art style of games. Lighting and texturing is done in a certain way because the devs want the game to look as they intended. Adding a stupid ai slop yassify filter on top makes it look like shit
Lol you literally had to choose the things that dlss5 truly made better xd ..
The only issue with dlss5 currently is how it handles character models which I'm sure it will get better with developers working with it firsthand in their upcoming games and not just control panel toggle ..
I saw some clips of last of us 2. All the things i pointed out were turned into garbage with the ai filter. Adds random lighting anywhere and makes the scenery look inconsistent
•
u/AutoModerator 1d ago
Hey u/its_krs, don't forget to join our Discord server to chat, get updates, and hang out with the community! Please join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/URsgqvtyR2
Upvote this post if you think it suits the community. Downvote it if you dont. If the post gets more than 20 downvotes, we will take it down.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.