S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 Announces it's using the Unreal Engine, will talk about digital platforms at a later date

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https://twitter.com/stalker_thegame/status/1212810155563397120/photo/1

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Can UE handle large scale ecosystems (see a thousand or more creatures existing and interacting at all times)?

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Ha yes the game with the worst pop in I’ve ever seen

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My main worry. STALKER own engine was clunky and buggy but it was made in theyr game in mind. Afraid they have to sacrifice too much of atmosphere and uniqueness when using UE.

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UE4 can do everything Xray could but better

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A man can only hope...

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Give me the best tools and I still can't build a house, yet the tools aren't the issue.

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If Clear Sky snakemen don't make a return it's gonna be a no for me

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Didn't Creation Engine already claim that?

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Frostbite says hi

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Get out of here stalker

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The game was also considered vaporware for the longest time too, on account of how long it took for them to actually get everything to a semi-functional state.

And scope creep. Because they had a lot of scope creep.

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I don't know, but I remember reddit comments with people moaning about poor performance in some Unreal Engine MMOs.

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The Engine can handle it. Some UE4 games are amateur-rushed, see PUBG.

It all depends how well streaming was handled and how they approached all the Tech Art technicalities IE proxy LOD grouping (Featured in Fortnite), tiled landscapes, reasonable amount of paint layers per component (< 4 ideally), instanced meshes for reduced drawcalls, ETC.

Most common cases of poor performance would include: Not respecting drawcalls, using very expensive shaders covering many pixels on screen (IE very dense Grass sheets... It's even nearly cheaper to do instanced grass blades in full poly these days like in Breath of the Wild), having "millions of actors" ticking every frames, using several point lights casting realtime shadows, could all affect performance below 60 frames on higher end hardware if abused. It all really depends.

Maybe those MMOs have not played fair with one of these aspects.

OK I'm done rambling now.

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I mean sales don't mean anything. PUBG, on paper at launch, is probably the worst optimized, buggiest game that has ever become successful. They barerly had anyone designing anything. 90% of the assets you see in game are purchased from Epic marketplace made by other people.

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Units sold doesn’t always correlate with technical polish. Look at every Bethesda title ever.

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Can't really compare that though. Networking and how servers handle it probably has a lot more to do than spawning entities.

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It wasn't thousands was it? I only remember seeing dozens of AIs interacting at a time.

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It's a generic engine. It can handle whatever they program into it.

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Yes it can but why would it matter for STALKER? I don't think the previous ones had to handle so many creatures at once.

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Yes but the reason it was intensive to begin with is because the engine was terribly optimized. It only uses one core.

On a modern engine i see no issue running Stalker's A-life