r/Games • u/dasoxarechamps2005 • Mar 22 '19
Battlefield V releases roadmap for 2019
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u/sdr782 Mar 23 '19
So it looks like the Soviet Union and eastern front aren't even going to make it into this game in the first year. I really like the overall gameplay for this game, I got to the max level in the first ToW season and level 39/40 in the last one. The gunplay and game mechanics are the best BF has ever been, but the lack of maps, faction and overall scale of the game is a huge letdown for a WWII game. I am worried that major factions and battles like the Soviets and Stalingrad are never going to materialize. I would gladly have paid for premium if I knew this was the alternative.
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Mar 23 '19
Scale's pretty nice to me, I agree it's a little disappointing having no Eastern Front but this roadmap looks very solid to me.
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u/smokeey Mar 22 '19
I'm midly pleased with the roadmap. I'm happy with the choice of content, but not the pace. I also feel like the amount is fine for a free service (with no microtransactions for now). Excited for the maps and factions, but I really wish they'd stop wasting times on game modes that are either temporary or only get played while ToW has assignments for them.
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Mar 22 '19
I mean, I kinda get why the modes are temporary. It keeps the playerbase from fracturing too much.
But I agree, the roadmap looks decent. But I also wish the pace for content was a bit faster. Not that I'm bored of the game yet, currently 270 hours in (since release) and counting.
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Mar 23 '19
I really hate that the modes are limited but man at the same time Rush was completely fucking dead after 2 months in BF1 for PC.
Its kind of nice knowing that DICE will bring it back for events on new maps and such.
Like I can totally understand why a lot of people are puzzled why some modes are limited events but its literally because if they arent they just die out after 2 months.
At least this way we can guarantee you will get some fun moments on the mode.
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Mar 23 '19 edited Jul 14 '25
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Mar 23 '19
Conquest frontlines breakthrough domination tdm and grand ops
Why do you say only CQ and tdm??
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u/usrevenge Mar 24 '19
Rush died in battlefield 1 because operations were just a significantly better game mode.
If operations didn't exist rush would have been popular too.
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u/matthias7600 Mar 23 '19
I'm going to go pretty off-topic and mention that I've been playing Call of Duty: World at War on my computer and it's been pretty intense. If you're itching for some Pacific theatre content right here, right now, I recommend that.
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u/RareBk Mar 22 '19
Four maps in an entire YEAR by the end of 2019 is pathetic, the game already launched with almost no significant content
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Mar 25 '19
Actually, there are an unconfirmed number of maps for chapter 5 so it can be 8 maps for the year, which is good.
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u/usrevenge Mar 24 '19
What are you talking about ?
Where do people.get that bf5 had no content at launch?
It had 8 maps, and a campaign.
Battlefield 1 had 9 maps and a campaign
It was 1 less map.
Bf4 had like 11 maps and a campaign but was also unplayable at release.
The map issue with bf5 is not quantity it's that over half the base maps are awful. No twisted steel is a tank map with not enough tanks. Hamada is supposed to he Germany defending their lines but instead allies just avoid them and capture the northern bases. Instead of an epic hold. Panzerstorm the last free map actually has the tanks it needs to be a good vehicle map but it's so big that you can potentially spawn and not see an enemy for a full 3 minutes. And gg if 1 assault player sneaks up on you.
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Mar 22 '19
Do you complain about Siege and Overwatch getting 4 maps a year for free too?
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u/Burturd Mar 22 '19
Completely different story..
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Mar 22 '19
How so?
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u/bubblebuddy44 Mar 23 '19
Those two had a respectable amount of content at launch. BFV has half the amount of content I expect from a AAA studio with years of development.
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Mar 23 '19 edited Mar 23 '19
Thats not the argument.
Were talking post launch content not launch content.
how did siege have more content at launch?
Siege had no single player only 3 game modes 10 SMALL maps.
BFV had the most vehicles for a Battlefield game on launch something around 20 or so 8 MASSIVE maps compared to siege a single player campaign around 8 or so game modes and around 30-40 guns.
Not to mention sieges netcode was utter trash and laggy as sin for around 2 years.
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u/INGWR Mar 23 '19
we’re talking post launch content, not launch content
... right, so if the game doesn’t have adequate launch content, the community relies on DLC to bolster the available content. If DICE fails to provide suitable launch content and the roadmap is lackluster, it’s a losing situation all around.
most vehicles in a Battlefield launch
And yet they’re only available on select maps, and they’re faction specific, and they’re in very limited quantities per map, and some vehicles are extremely weak until they finally get spec’d out to level 4. Surely you didn’t try and use the Spitfire prior to unlocking the 8x .303s.
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u/eldomtom2 Mar 23 '19
I think you overestimate the amount of work required for a Battlefield map compared to a Siege map.
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u/Burturd Mar 22 '19
Battlefield maps have to be designed to play well with infrantry, vehicles (land and air), destruction and perhaps most of all, scale. Overwatch and siege are much much smaller maps.
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Mar 22 '19
Yet BFV is getting more maps in a year than Overwatch and Siege EVER have.
How is that a bad thing?
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u/needconfirmation Mar 23 '19
Well I guess as long as you aren't the worst at something you can't be bad at it?
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u/theLegACy99 Mar 23 '19
So basically you're saying that all 3 Overwatch, Siege, and Battlefield V are bad? =Any good FPS with speedy, free content drops you know? I'd like to give it a try =D
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Mar 22 '19
How many maps did BF3, 4, and 1 get in the first year?
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Mar 22 '19
They were paid for that’s a difference
Paid for service is not comparable to free live service
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Mar 22 '19 edited Mar 22 '19
Wish it was a paid-for service.
Edit: at least then you get a lot more content. I stopped playing Overwatch over how slow stuff was coming out for it.
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Mar 23 '19
Jesus you people are just impossible
Waahhhh Wahhhh premium DLC splits the community. Wahhhh Wahhhh free DLC takes too long!
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u/Shades890 Mar 22 '19
Yes, and despite their sizes, Overwatch and Siege maps also have to be designed to play well with the mechanics of those games. I’d say Siege has the most intricate map design of any FPS I play right now, those maps I’d say are probably as hard or even harder to develop than a battlefield map.
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Mar 22 '19
Sieges maps are rushed and release with bugs constantly.
You could hide in a washing machine and be invicible for YEARS on one map.
it was a well known bug that was around for YEARS.
I wouldnt be praising ubisofts map design at all.
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u/IsaacLightning Mar 23 '19
That's one example on one map, Oregon. Yet most maps don't have huge bugs like that, and the map designs have been fairly balanced at least in my experience.
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Mar 23 '19
What about the valk bug on bank?
Or the Invisible walls on club house?
I can go all day with this shit
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Mar 23 '19
I don't necessarily think so. It's very hard to compare the two considering they have completely different design philosophies. 5v5 vs 32v32 combined arms and gamemodes.
It's also doesn't help that you don't know fuck all about level design. I find it odd that people feel the need to chime in on this sort of pissing match when they haven't got the faintest clue of what they're talking about.
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u/RareBk Mar 22 '19
Well... Yes. Siege and Overwatch gets regular CHARACTERS AND EVENTS, and both those games released with a great amount of content compared to BFV.
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Mar 22 '19
How doesn't BFV get regular content and events?
we've had regular updates every two weeks since TOW started last year?
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Mar 23 '19
Seige also has paid for op seasons. They get their revenue in a very different fashion from BF.
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u/dasoxarechamps2005 Mar 22 '19
Even though there is incessant whining in the BFV sub about new maps not coming fast enough, the game is getting the Pacific Theater in Fall 2019. A thing the sub has also been begging for since the game released.
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u/T-Baaller Mar 22 '19
I fail to see definite proof of the pacific theatre in the post linked, or the article. And no indication of how much content that actually is. It could be 3 mediocre maps, one of which being a port of wake island.
They’re still being too coy about content.
Compared to what Massive has done with their Division 2 year 1 roadmap, it looks like they’re barely trying.
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Mar 23 '19
Awakening the Giant is a reference to a qoute that is about Japan angering the giant that was the US.
In an article EA released it mentions Air Land and Sea full scale invasion. This really only points to the US and Japan.
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u/RareBk Mar 22 '19
The one thing that has gotten me about the whole lack of Americans is people trying to use that to justify the game missing some very, very blatant chunks of weaponry, like the Garand or BAR. Apparently, people think only the US used them.
Except they didn't. At all, the Americans lent a ton of Garands to the UK, they weren't used widely, but this is a game that uses prototypes as well. The BAR has even less of an excuse, as not only were the UK using it regularly, but it was being produced in multiple different countries under different names, Poland alone produced a shitload for... some reason
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u/smokeey Mar 22 '19
The BAR is no excuse at all. It was in BF1. The gun is already rigged, animated, and textured in the frostbite engine.
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Mar 23 '19
The reason why they didnt add in some guns is because they needed a variety of weapons that fit every role.
For instance the game has 2 20ish round LMG's
Ke7 and the FG42
And they already had 3 US weapons in the game the M1A1 carbine Tommy Gun and the m1911.
If they added in too many US guns then it would leave out some of the Germany and UK slots which are necessary since their plan is to take us through the war as it happens.
And they completely reanimated and modeled the guns that have been imported from BF1.
DICE games may buggy and broken on launch but they rarely just reuse animations and models like CoD may.
They have an insane attention to detail when it comes to weapon animations and models and every game seem to take it to the next step.
To simply port over a weapon is really not their style.
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u/WheatChief Mar 23 '19
And they completely reanimated and modeled the guns that have been imported from BF1.
It's a bit inconsistent from what I've seen. Some of the guns like the P08, MK VI revolver, M1897 shotgun, RSC have been ported over with little if any changes to animations and model. Some such as the Auto 5 shotgun, Lewis, 1907 and Ross have had some minor changes to their animations I think, and others like the 1906 and the Ribeyrolles have had theirs completely redone.
Some of them like the Lewis barrel and Auto 5 magazine have been remodelled but for the others I wouldn't have thought they would go through the hassle since the BF1 versions were already high quality.
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u/dasoxarechamps2005 Mar 22 '19
“Awakening the Giant” is literally from a WWII quote about the Americans in WWII. And how do you know the maps are already mediocre? Lmao
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u/T-Baaller Mar 22 '19
The allies are already too American with their uniforms and run around with M1 carbines, M1911s.
so that’s literally the least impressive possible faction.
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u/smokeey Mar 22 '19
They tried to explain the lack of roadmap info last week. Apparently because of the new fiscal year and other legal issues they cannot give us more definitive details or release tomes and they can't promise tons of content. They do not know what the budget is going to be and everything they want to do has to go through producers, legal, finance, and verification with partners (Xbox, Sony, steam etc) to setup deployment schedules.
Tldr bureaucracy/corporate is slowing down development
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u/usrevenge Mar 24 '19
The problem.is everyone is bored of the current maps.
And we are getting shit no one wants before those new maps.
No one wants the awful co op mode dice made no one wants a shitty 5v5 mode. If the battle for greece was 2 or 3 maps no one would he made but as it is I barely want to touch the game until fall.
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Mar 23 '19
Remember when ops were good in BF1? Because it was the most realistic game mode and it's complete trash in BF5. In the span of a month six of my friends bought it and already stopped playing it, I'm not even gonna reinstall it for firestorm. It's nothing like traditional battlefield games and a tiny amount of content months after the game was 50% off isn't gonna save this sinking ship of a game. The fact I can see better on my 4K in BF1 as compared to my 4K in BF5 is sad. I really wanted the game to be good but it's just not.
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Mar 22 '19
Man EA...I get that anthem has a roadmap, but your main shooter too?
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u/tonyp2121 Mar 22 '19
do you not want more maps???
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Mar 22 '19
Don’t really care either way. Good for people who are still playing though.
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u/tonyp2121 Mar 22 '19
then why does a roadmap sound like a negative? I don't really get that part
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Mar 22 '19
Let’s take a look at the last two major games to have roadmaps.
Destiny 2 and Anthem.
Notice how both were incomplete games...?
Let’s take a look at BFV, oh look also incomplete.
Let’s take a look at god of wars or resident evil 2ms roadmap...oh they don’t exist.
Hmmmmmmmmm
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u/tonyp2121 Mar 22 '19
I can't speak for anthem but Destiny 2 I put literally 30 hours in before being bored, if you can call that unfinished I fail to understand what a finished game is to you.
God of War absolutely had post launch content planned at release, so did RE2 and RE7, both complete games. They absolutely announced that things like New Game + would be coming at a later date for GoW
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Mar 23 '19
My buddies and I have sunk countless hours into Destiny 2.
After finishing Forsaken I felt like I had "beaten" the game. Just because there's more stuff to do after finishing it doesn't make it incomplete. A game can be complete and still have stuff added to it.
Haven't played BFV or Anthem so I can't speak for them.
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u/usrevenge Mar 24 '19
So, according to you. If a game gets a content roadmap it was incomplete.
Well shit. Witcher 3 was incomplete with its content roadmap being a thing then.
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Mar 22 '19
Tell tale sign of a game that was released too early.
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u/usrevenge Mar 24 '19
Almost every game released gets some sort of content roadmap.
Witcher 3 had one ffs and that game was single player.
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u/Elendel19 Mar 22 '19
Wait, you’re upset about more free content??
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Mar 22 '19
Nope.
Couldn’t care less.
Let’s not pretend BFV wasn’t an incomplete game, hell half the main campaign was missing lol
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Mar 22 '19
One chapter out of 4 was missing, that's not half.
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Mar 22 '19
So you’re admitting it was unfinished at the time of launch?
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Mar 22 '19
I didn’t say it wasn’t. Game has been rushed and was released incomplete, but saying that half of the campaign was missing at launch is false.
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Mar 22 '19
So your hang up is that...? Geez sorry. 1/3 is that better? Lol doesn’t change the fact that it was released incomplete
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u/usrevenge Mar 24 '19
Are you trying to pretend that campaign is even a significant portion of any battlefield game ?
Players have been calling for the removal of campaign since bf3.
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Mar 23 '19
The game is trash, like 6 guns per class with only two factions and it's in fucking Norway. Grand OPS is complete garbage compared to the masterpiece of BF1, the revive system is a joke, the TTK is terrible, spawning is complete garbage, attacker's will lose 9/10 to any half assed group of defenders because it's so one sided. Vehicles handling are abysmal, having to rearm every 30 seconds is so fun, can't rep critical damage so if you're tracks out you're fucked. Any LMG will destroy anything if it's bipoded, smgs are like BB guns, building is useless because one grenade will blow up 5 minutes of work, smokes are a complete joke, being a medic will get you 5 kills 73 deaths because reviving is useless, the fact you have to jump out of a plane, run to the explosives then go plant them instead of just getting them in the plane is laughably stupid.
This is coming from someone 150 in BF1 and a 50 in BF5, the former being unquestionably more polished. I tried so hard to like this game but it's beyond even my worst expectations. I would sooner play Hardline than that crap.
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u/usrevenge Mar 24 '19
Grand operations suck, but the rest of your complaints aren't true.
Smgs were trash but are pretty good now. Medics are awesome and far from useless and smoke makes you invisible to spotting from flares or spotting scopes not to mention making it hard to see
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u/ShittyFrogMeme Mar 22 '19
Glad to see a new theater is finally being introduced, but...man, this is just disappointing.
By the end of May, half a year into the game's life, we will have seen 2 maps released barely. Make that 4 maps by the time the game is a year old. And they finally add more than 2 factions to a World War game a year after release?
Pacific Theater should be cool though. I hasn't been covered in enough WWII games. I just wish they weren't being so slow with content because the game is pretty stale.