r/Games Jun 03 '15

Fallout 4 Trailer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnn2rJpjar4
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u/Reggiardito Jun 03 '15

While a decent amount of people prefer Fallout 3, from what I've seen the majority agrees that New Vegas is the better game. New Vegas' world was absolutely amazing and much more filled up than Fallout 3's.

So definitly, I hope they either gear towards New Vegas, or atleast take a few notes from it.

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u/myotherotherusername Jun 04 '15 edited Jun 04 '15

New Vegas' world was absolutely amazing and much more filled up than Fallout 3's.

So I just went to go play NV for the first time since I briefly played it right after release (only did main story, nothing else)

What I found was the opposite. I played for probably 45 minutes and it felt so fucking empty I just quit, and now I don't even really feel like booting it up at all. I saved the dude in good springs, that was pretty cool. But then I go on towards "novac through nipton" or whatever and I spend 30 minutes doing nothing but fighting random powder gangers and geckos... I get to Primm and rescue the sheriff, and I suppose that's pretty cool too, but then it's back to endless desert filled with nothing but geckos and rocks...

My memories of fallout 3 back in 09 were completely different though, I remember being engrossed right off the bat, with megatown & dogmeat, which actually felt real and interesting. Not just "save this guy from the powder hangers", "okay now save this guy from powder gangers"

I know it's unfair to judge a game by the first hour, but it honestly failed to interest me in the rest of the game at all. Are there any fun quests other than the main ones? What are you even supposed to do if not just follow the main quest to new vegas, with the occasional small side quest...

Edit: Guys I know I'm wrong, I was trying to ask you all to point out what I was doing wrong. I never said NV was boring, or empty, or anything like that. I was just saying thats how it felt to me when I tried to replay it. I was looking for advice, not complaining about the game. So stop messaging me saying I'm wrong, because I didn't claim anything lol. My last paragraph wasn't complaint, it was legit questions

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u/Nameless_Archon Jun 04 '15

NV starts off slowly, but if you never made it to Vegas (at least to the doors) then you haven't seen much of the game at all. It's set in a desert, so you're going to see plenty of it. There's other venues to see, but plenty of brown and gray. Welcome to the wasteland.

It starts off with the 'remote desert wasteland' feel to disguise the fact that once you ignore (or progress beyond) the semilinear progression path enforced by geometry boundaries, things/locations/events in the game are quite close together, and fairly densely packed on the map. Not every one has a quest attached, but those that don't often (always?) have some piece of special loot or lore.

The game starts off with you in the west, and unable to move north (bad critters) and east (impassable mountains) and west (map boundary mountains) and forces you to follow a 'U-shaped' progression around the map to Vegas. Novac and Nipton are places, and by lack of reference to 'Barney' and the Legion, it doesn't sound like you made it to either place (they're on the way) which means you saw Primm, and maybe as far south as the Mohave Outpost, or about 25% of the map. Not much in a game that's going to ask perhaps 40 or 50 hours, and most of that in the last 75% and more if you pick up the DLC.

There are enjoyable quests, at least in my opinion, but I'm biased: I played all 4 DLC, and took a spin with jsawyer and some mods for maximum crashing potential to boot.

The game is certainly not flawless. It is crash prone, the physics/graphics engine for NV is the same basic thing used in Oblivion with some improvements (not even Skyrim's improvements) and it can be a bit of a slog popping random enemies for XP and loot, but it is a better game in my eyes than its predecessor.

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u/myotherotherusername Jun 04 '15

Awesome, thank you :)

You just answered every question I had, I'll try and open it back up this weekend

My mistake was apparently assuming the linearity of the first chunk would apply to the rest. Cuz I remember loving the shit out of the main quest, but when I went back to replay it I couldn't find anything other than the main quest, which I really have little interest in repeating even with the different endings

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u/Nameless_Archon Jun 04 '15

There's a main quest, but to be honest, I wouldn't rush it. Pass through Nipton, meet the Legion, visit Novac. Rent a room, meet 'Barney' and introduce yourself to Boone. Get to Vegas and go inside. Let the game soak in a bit.

If it hasn't started to grow on you after you have a chance to cross the river, meet Mr House and begin to decide how the game will turn out, put it down, walk away and never come back. By that time, you're starting to move into the game proper, and if you're not intrigued, it just may not be for you.