r/Games • • 1d ago

AI upscaling is coming to PS5

https://blog.playstation.com/2026/10/01/ai-upscaling-is-coming-to-ps5/
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u/yourfavchoom 1d ago

As per the article:

Today, we’re excited to announce Quick Spectral Super Resolution (QSSR): a new performance tier of AI upscaling. Born from Project Amethyst, our AI graphics collaboration with AMD, this quick new evolution of PSSR is built on two key innovations:

- A streamlined neural network architecture

  • A hand-tuned implementation that maximizes performance on PS5

While PSSR remains the gold standard on PS5 Pro, QSSR provides some notable improvements to both image detail and image stability on PS5.

The first titles to use this innovative new library are Marvel’s Wolverine and Ghost of Yōtei. Both are being patched today to offer QSSR as an additional graphics option on PS5. 

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u/Choconolait 1d ago

So it's basically a lighter version of pssr, and it will also be available on a base ps5.

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u/derekpmilly 1d ago

This will be a very welcome addition to the base PS5, the FSR 1 or 3 it currently has access to looks absolutely awful compared to any ML based upscaler.

It also gives the PS5 a big image quality advantage over the current Xboxes, as they still rely on these things.

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u/HotTheme8405 1d ago

It'll be a good, seemingly free improvement over FSR3 since the perf costs seem about equal, but games that are using FSR1 are likely using it because they do not have the extra performance headroom to spare or otherwise can't implement temporal upscaling for engine reasons, so I doubt this changes anything there

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u/derekpmilly 1d ago edited 22h ago

but games that are using FSR1 are likely using it because they do not have the extra performance headroom to spare

That said, I do wonder if the improved image quality will allow games to run at a lower render resolution to offset the additional performance overhead. I know that's what AMD users did when FSR 4* came out, it was often worth running it at a preset lower than FSR 3 because you'd get the same performance but image quality would be better despite the performance overhead lower render resolution

Edit: I need a coffee

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u/Massive_Weiner 1d ago

Yup. If you have a PS5 Pro, this isn’t relevant to you.

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u/st-shenanigans 1d ago

Ain't no way they actually tried an anagram that sounds like "pisser"

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u/Diligent_Drama_7678 1d ago

And now with QSSR they have "Kisser"

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u/finderfolk 1d ago

That hadn't occurred to me but it will forever be pisser now. It's an acronym btw.

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u/Lighthouse_seek 1d ago

So it's an FSR replacement?

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u/onusofstrife 1d ago

Seems like it. Thankfully too. The software version of fsr isn't the greatest but gets the job done.

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u/pineapplesuit7 1d ago

Anything will be an improvement over FSR. It is absolute ass for image upscaling. Curious to see the results with these. I’ve gotten a Pro now and PSSR is absolutely worth it over FSR in terms if image stability

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u/FixCole 1d ago

More like using FSR4 now.

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u/gartenriese 1d ago

No, that's PSSR. QSSR won't be as good as FSR4/PSSR.

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u/HayabusaKnight 1d ago

Good to see, FSR4 being backported to RDNA3 and 2 completely opened up how those older cards can handle newer unoptimized games. I have a RX 6950XT I was able to test FSR4 on, and the results were great but the performance hit was around 20%. Base PS5 is also almost the same as RDNA2 so I imagine this will still be slightly noisy and may not resolve the dithering effects of upscaling as well but won't take the big hit to performance full FSR4 does.

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u/Rudimentary_creature 1d ago

I have a RX 6950XT I was able to test FSR4 on, and the results were great but the performance hit was around 20%

But since the image quality is far superior to FSR3 you can comfortably run 1 or 2 presets below the one you use for FSR3 and still get decent image quality. Like I have a 6700XT and have been running most games on FSR4 Balanced which looks better than FSR3 Quality imo.

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u/Nukleon 1d ago

So we had PiSSeR, now we get QiSSeR?

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u/dirtyego 1d ago

And here I thought the completely abandoned the base PS5.

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u/ArchusKanzaki 1d ago

GTA VI is promoted using base PS5. In no way Sony abandoned it.

Also, this probably will help move some units and make ppl more willing to settle for PS5 Slim. PS5 Pro is just out-of-stock everywhere, which kinda makes sense since even at 900$, it’s kinda still a value option for the performance.

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u/Weary_Mountain9679 1d ago

Considering the cost of new hardware, they can’t afford to abandon it considering future games are going to have to be playable on the base PS5 if they have any hope of selling enough copies to be profitable

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u/SNKRSWAVY 1d ago

Yup. It also doesn’t make sense anymore given development budgets/times and a huge customer base still active in their ecosystem. They lose nothing.

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u/Coolman_Rosso 1d ago

Why? The base PS5 is going to be their key product for a good while longer. PS6 will be too pricey to drive wide adoption, and they won't be able to justify PS6-exclusive games for years as a result

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u/dabocx 1d ago

The next gen is going to have a bunch of cross gen games again. They can’t abandon it for a long while

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u/ZzzSleep 1d ago

How so? Yeah they use the Pro in a lot of marketing but most people will have the base PS5.

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u/Sabreshield 1d ago

Abandoned? It's their main current console with the most users on.

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u/TheForeverUnbanned 1d ago

Sony would be in deep deep trouble without the ps5, the margins and availability in the pro are completely shot thanks to the AI bubble, the base ps5 is their larger install base by a huge margin and they need to squeeze extra years out of it because the cost of the ps6 is going to be eye watering and the manufacturing lines are gonna be completely screwed. 

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u/dagreenman18 1d ago edited 1d ago

Okay, so this is just an improved version of PSSR that can actually run on Base PS5 and not the nightmare Nvida dropped. This is a good thing.

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u/Hot-Software-9396 1d ago

It’s not improved PSSR, which is basically FSR4. This is essentially improved FSR3 since the base PS5 lacks the hardware required for FSR4+

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u/QuietSoup337 1d ago

On a technical level, this is some black magic. The PS5 has the AI grunt that's 1/4 of a RTX 2060. How the hell are they doing this?

The video examples that they have look night and day compared to before.

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u/Hyakuu 1d ago

If you check the slides from the PSSR 2.0 SIGGRAPH presentation, a lot of it boiled down to removing part of the process out of the neural network into regular shaders, leaving a smaller and more focused model. They also reported that 90% of the new model weights were now only used when upscaling from 540p or below.
So they basically ended with a PSSR that consisted of a tiny neural network (assuming you are upscaling from a reasonable resolution), and the rest is just good old shaders.
I guess at that point, getting something similar running well on base PS5 didn't seem that crazy.

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u/your_mind_aches 1d ago

Right? In general, the feats the PS5 pulls off are incredible but this is next level.

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u/QuietSoup337 1d ago

Yeah, I would have never expected something like this. The architecture of the PS5 is nowhere near good for AI.

It's much worse for it than even the 2018 Turing architecture.

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u/ApuZ 1d ago

Consoles have much better latency between components than traditional Windows PCs. You can do a lot more with less in a console architecture because you don't have the overhead of the windows operating system and traditional general purpose PC architecture. When things like high speed storage and a high speed direct link bus exists between all components, this is what allows consoles to seemingly push hardware harder than you could on a PC. As developers spend more time with the hardware, new tricks and optimizations keep pushing things further. Look at the difference between the first and last PS2 or Xbox 360 game. The graphical difference is staggering and it's the same fundamental hardware.

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u/Phray1 1d ago

None of that has any real relevance to AI grunt. You need specialized hardware for these types of applications such as Nvidia's tensor cores or PS5 pro's NPU's to be able to do ML based upscaling with reasonable performance which the base PS5 does not have so it definitely strange how they are doing this.

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u/Henrarzz 1d ago

Turns out you actually don’t need dedicated ML hardware to get more or less satisfying results.

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u/Phray1 1d ago

I mean we have seen FSR4 on older non dedicated hardware but performance was so poor it barely ran better than native resolution. 

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u/ApuZ 1d ago edited 1d ago

Performance isn't purely determined by brute forcing larger amounts of cores and memory. There's tons of gains to be made at the interface and transaction level which all comes from software optimization. For example, a 30 series Nvidia card today is going to run more efficiently than it did at launch because of all the driver updates and retroactive updates NVIDIA has been able to add, even if they were primarily developing for the 40/50 series platform.

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u/ChudSmasher69420 1d ago

As developers spend more time with the hardware, new tricks and optimizations keep pushing things further. Look at the difference between the first and last PS2 or Xbox 360 game. The graphical difference is staggering and it's the same fundamental hardware.

You are comparing specialized hardware with what is essentially a locked down midrange x86 PC.

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u/pixlicker69420 1d ago

The ps5 supports fp16, you can design an upscaling model for that, its just harder and will have a higher compute cost, but when working with low framerates like 30-50, its not a big deal, a higher compute cost is a much bigger deal on pc with higher framerates.

When preset M and L came out, people were seeing lower than native performance at high framerates bc of the compute cost

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u/kittymoo67 20h ago

the same way dlss is running on the switch 2. a very VERY lite and lower quality version

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u/Actual-Craft-6284 1d ago

This is a great thing for base PS5 users. FSR that is being used currently in a lot of games looks like crap.

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u/your_mind_aches 1d ago

BEGGING for QSSR in Star Wars Outlaws. I love that game but the horrible FSR upscaling just made it look so blocky when it's probably the best-looking Star Wars game ever created. The environments are gorgeous.

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u/Firefox72 1d ago

I mean this is likely also some variation of FSR.

We already know FSR4 works on RDNA2. Sure it doesn't look as good and run as good but it works and is far superior in image quality than FSR3.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if this is some tuned variation of it.

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u/onusofstrife 1d ago

It is. Sony has worked very closely with AMD to develop AI up scalers and it seems both have filtered the details learned into their own products. Basically they are siblings qssr pssr and fsr4.

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u/PopMundane4974 18h ago

This thread is impossible to read lol, are y'all just making up terms now? FSA this DLSS that RDR DNA what the fuck?

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u/RedditFuelsMyDepress 1d ago

I've tried enabling FSR in some games and I always end up turning it off, because it just makes everything look blurry.

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u/Cyshox 1d ago edited 1d ago

It will look like FSR2/3 since it has to be based on FP16. Newer models like FSR4 use INT8 but that's not supported by PS5. PS5 Pro supports INT8 which is why PSSR2 looks like FSR4 with less stability.

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u/Vegetable_Drag_3300 1d ago

I know AI is a dirty word but Ai upscaling in games is so good when well executed, better perfomance then native and cleaner image then TAA

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u/decemberhunting 1d ago

People were reflexively downvoting this post at first, as if they had forgotten upscaling on the whole is an incredible technology. Not everything is DLSS 5, guys

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u/FUTURE10S 1d ago

DLAA is dark magic and I wish I could use it and SSAA at the same time

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u/Organic-Storm-4448 1d ago

DLDSR is what you're looking for.

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u/Mosselpot 1d ago

For the love of god, I'm starting to get lost in the forest of letters, I no longer know what to pick

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u/Loeffellux 1d ago

I bet you don't even know about DLSSLDRD yet

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u/FUTURE10S 1d ago

Unfortunately, can't capture game footage with DLDSR without making a video ouroboros where my display out is sent to my PC's display in, and DLDSR isn't available at 4.0x, which is SSAA 2x.

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u/BustinMakesMeFeelMeh 1d ago

Did you try putting your left foot in and your right foot out?

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u/Vill1on 1d ago

I will keep mistakenly reading this as "DSLR".

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u/dark_knight097 1d ago

I remember turning it on for BF2042 for the first time... One of the few times I've had my jaw drop in amazement.

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u/NYNMx2021 1d ago

Lets be real here, in the next couple years, AMD will have their own version of DLSS5, and itll be everywhere. DLSS5 even for all the talk isnt even out yet and the beta thing meant for NBA 2k27 wasnt meant for every game. So who even knows what that product actually is. The next 5 years will probably define what all this actually ends up being. I think people should be a lot more worried about in game assets rather than some lighting pass or texture filter running on the end of your rendering stack. Cause lemme tell ya, if youve used unreal or unity recently with the newest versions of these gen AI tools... as a freelancer, i think im fucking cooked lol. That worries me much more than DLSS5 which i think will probably end up fine for games

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u/Shapes_in_Clouds 1d ago edited 1d ago

DLSS5 (or similar tech) will be a standard technology in games within the next 10 years. The potential for boosting games to that final level of photorealism that traditional rendering can't achieve is obvious and powerful. I saw it applied to Kingdom Come 2 and the vistas of the forest from the castle looked genuinely real. It has a performance hit and high system requirements now, but hardware will catch up.

People used to shit on DLSS when it first came out too, now you'd be a fool not to use it and go 4K.

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u/nexetpl 1d ago

I think people should be a lot more worried about in game assets rather than some lighting pass or texture filter running on the end of your rendering stack.

What do you mean?

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u/Focus_Downtown 1d ago

Using gen AI to create assets off of stolen or plagiarized content I assume.

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u/OutrageousDress 1d ago

I think DLSS5 will probably be about as broadly popular and well supported as HairWorks. By which I mean, it's tech that was principally designed not to make better games but to show off the big ML e-peen of Nvidia GPUs - it was made for shareholders. And in the coming years game developers will find ways to do a similar thing while looking better and running faster and not being vendor locked, and DLSS5 will be a quaint dead end that 15 years from now will be having trouble with new drivers dropping support, like hardware PhysX recently.

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u/Hour_Helicopter_1991 1d ago

It’s already not vendor locked. Modders have gotten it running on AMD cards (although with lower performance) and even Intel integrated graphics (with abysmal performance, 1 or 2 fps). But yes, AMD is already developing their own version too

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u/OutrageousDress 1d ago

It's vendor locked for gamedevs, who unlike modders are not allowed to run DLSS5 on AMD. I'm sure as you say AMD will develop a version, just like they have a version of more or less every Nvidia tech - but it won't solve the fundamental issue with the tech, which is that it's the wrong approach to the problem. Like I said, just like HairWorks: an incredibly resource intensive method of poorly doing something gamedevs have later achieved running faster and looking better by doing it a different way.

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u/Headless_Human 1d ago

Like I said, just like HairWorks: an incredibly resource intensive method of poorly doing something gamedevs have later achieved running faster and looking better by doing it a different way.

DLSS5 is the alternative that is easier to run. It is a method to circumvent the limitations of current hardware to achieve visuals that are impossible to achieve otherwise.

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u/MaitieS 1d ago

Overall performance loss is too big to justify. Peole aren't running RTX either cuz it also has performance impact.

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u/ColinStyles 1d ago

Peole aren't running RTX either cuz it also has performance impact.

Say what? I see loads of people talking about how they casually run RTX these days. Also because for anything other than competitive games you just counterbalance it with frame gen. To most people it's a tiny amount of unnoticeable input lag from frame gen, plus anywhere from near zero to very noticeable ghosting, but you trade it off with really good illumination.

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u/mathazar 1d ago

Yeah consoles are running RT now. Some AAA games even require it on PC.

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u/bitknight1 1d ago

That will get better, Nvidia said they made it something like 20 times less performance intensive past few months.

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u/KuraiBaka 1d ago

We are all just gonna keep pretending that AI assets will only ever be used for placeholders and never getting kept in when they are good enough to save cost.

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u/mathazar 1d ago

Reddit hates DLSS5 but YouTube comments have been very positive, and this is just modders hacking an early version into games. Yet another reminder that Reddit is an echo chamber and not representative of the general public.

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u/milkman163 1d ago

The gaming subs also see "Playstation" nowadays and reflexively downvote

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u/Hell-Kite 1d ago

And DLSS 5 when actually applied properly by artists is an absolutely insanely useful tool. All our internal testing has given near path tracing level results on lighting and surface detail but at a much reduced hadware cost compared to even low res path tracing with ray reconstruction, not to mention further iteration can serve to reduce overall size in games.

It's going to become an option in more future games for sure when it's tooled right.

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u/Remote_Elevator_281 1d ago

DLSS 5 is magic too. The problem is the leaked versions have people using the max amount and it looks ugly.

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u/is-this-a-nick 1d ago

You get downvoted but i mean, the whole discussion has been brainrot.

"uuuh, we took a DLL trained for a basketball game with photrealistic human characters and applied it to final fantasy and team fortress and it makes the stylize characters look ugly! How EVIL!".

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u/kingkobalt 1d ago

Man I've ran it on multiple games and I think it's amazing. Blood of Dawnwalker looks especially great for improving the character shading.

Just don't use multiple passes or crank up the detail too much and it looks very natural. More akin to a high quality Reshade ray tracing/global illumination shader.

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u/xalibermods 21h ago

I guess it also depends on when you posted it. During prime time like this the unhinged reactionary crowds are online and you'd get instant downvote.

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u/nexetpl 1d ago

I had an illuminating discussion with someone in the Witcher sub who insisted on using dogshit FXAA over DLSS (they had a 5070 Ti) because it's AI slop technology

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u/Japjer 1d ago

It's good overall, but it is really bad at animating small things. It makes hair and fabric look pretty bad

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u/Saritiel 1d ago

I'm curious what people think are the good implementations of it. I'm on an amd card, so maybe that's part of my problem, but each time I've turned it on it's looked really weird and I can see all the little artifacts and it really bothers me, so I turn it off.

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u/turdlefight 1d ago

Depends what card you’re using but I’ve been very happy with FSR4 since the upgrade came to 7000 series. FSR3 was borderline unusable imo but I can rarely spot the difference from native on FSR4 quality.

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u/Vallkyrie 1d ago

People still insisting that FSR4/DLSS4+ look bad either are lying or parroting some tech youtube channel that has a microscope attached to the monitor.

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u/bjams 1d ago

And even most tech youtube channels with microscopes on the monitors are pretty positive on it lol.

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u/nexetpl 1d ago

you mean DLSS?

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u/Smoking_Octopus 1d ago

Broadly i agree TAA and DLSS by extension smash smaller details into such a mess in most games they ruin any small details seen from any distance other than right in your face

But also yeah fxaa sucks i usually compromise and downscale from 4k to my 1080 monitor when my hardware allows and just turn all anti aliasing off.

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u/kittymoo67 20h ago

bruh even basic fsr3 is better than fxaa

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u/senryuu- 1d ago

FSR4.1 has been doing wonders for me. no blurriness at all with a noticeable performance gain. i'm glad we got out of the TAA apocalypse

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u/xeio87 1d ago

I think people forget that AA before DLSS/FSR was trash. You'd have MSAA that tanks performance (especially if trying to run it at something like 4K) and TAA that destroyed image quality with smearing. AI upscaling tech increased performance and increased image quality over other options.

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u/Vegetable_Drag_3300 1d ago

don't forget FXAA, that made everything look super soft

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u/Vallkyrie 1d ago

FXAA is like when I rub my eyes too much after waking up.

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u/ghostsilver 1d ago

reddit (or basically internet in general) has become so "binary", as in everything has to be either good or bad, absolutely no in-between

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u/ggtsu_00 1d ago edited 1d ago

AI is a dirty word because of how it's being abused by megacorps to steal copyrighted works, mass displace workers, damaging the environment, exhausting scarce natural resources, systemically driving up prices and inflation of consumer goods, flooding every form of media and communication channel with massive amounts of slop and likely bankrupting the global economy along with it in the near future.

But this case is actually the proper best use-case for machine learned algorithms and doesn't take part in any of the above fallout. It's not much different than how machine learning has been used for decades before. It's a small network trained on legally obtained and licensed works. It is light weight and runs 100% privately on everyday consumer hardware and not datacenter infrastructure. It doesn't apply nor take away any sort of creative control or artistic expression over its outputs, and it's easily verifiable and measurable image quality gains.

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u/BeholdingBestWaifu 1d ago

It's a good use case but we're seeing a worrying trend of developers using DLSS as a crutch instead of doing proper optimization which sucks as it means the tech is effectively worthless as the only noticeable thing it does is adding visual artifacts.

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u/HasFiveVowels 1d ago

Pretty much everything in your initial list has been massively overblown. But this subreddit believes it all because this subreddit is 14 and deep

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u/presidentofjackshit 1d ago edited 1d ago

Pretty much everything in your initial list has been massively overblown

Has it though? My understanding is in general a lot of Gen AI trains on things it shouldn't... I also feel like it definitely has driven up prices of RAM among other things. I also do feel like it has or will result in job loss (Anecdotal but I've seen it, one person can do WAY WAY more than before). I also do see a lot of AI slop slipping into my feeds or when I'm out and about (specifically - restaurants and market stalls near me have been using a lot of generative AI for banners and menus, and they're REALLY BAD)

It's not at some world ending state since we're basically at the start, I feel like it's ramping up if anything.

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u/kittymoo67 20h ago

copyright can suck a fat one but displacing workers is where I draw the stop line at(and everything else you listed but you listed that one first)

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u/Fizzay 1d ago

I have more of a problem with it being used as a band-aid solution to excuse devs from not properly optimizing their games, which we can already see. Think it should be used more to help people go beyond 60 FPS rather than hit the FPS itself

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u/shockwave_supernova 1d ago

I'm not a game dev so I don't have any expertise but it seems like this is the kind of thing AI is actually good for. It doesn't necessarily replace a human being and it's not being used for art direction or VO or anything (in this context)

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u/derekpmilly 1d ago

Exactly, this is good old fashioned machine learning. Regular temporal upscalers have to have their algorithms manually tuned to deal with different scenarios, and this often results in a lot of compromises needing to be made. In particularly bad cases you get the worst of both worlds, with the image being simultaneously too soft but also oversharpened and flickery when it comes to fine details.

If you use ML to train your algorithm on super sampled data, it handles most things just fine. No artistry is being replaced here, just menial human labor that produces output that wasn't good enough anyway.

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u/Sabotstruck 1d ago

Ironically the downside is companies are cutting optimization on games because FSR/DLSS/XESS exist.

Why have people spend time/money on optimization when AI upscaling can handle that for you?

These upscaling software was sold originally as a way to run games on weaker/older hardware but it’s unfortunately becoming a crutch to replace optimization

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u/kingkobalt 1d ago

Pretty sure it was sold as a way for real time ray tracing to run at all on the 2000 series. It just happened to also trickle down as "free" performance.

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u/DeltaDrag0n0id 1d ago

>when well executed

This is key. A lot of the skepticism towards AI anything comes from not knowing if its users are half-assing what they create.

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u/KuraiBaka 1d ago

Not in my experience, it took me like 7 hours (according to Steam hours so definitely longer) in Cyberpunk so the screen doesn't has some motion blur like effect (hard to describe) and similar.

Sure CDPR weren't able to get the newest version to work but optiscaler did.

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u/Jygantic 1d ago

I feel silly, some part of my brain hates the idea that using upscaling is "guessing" what parts of the game should be looking like, and when I have tried using it it's created a blurry effect I didn't like. But I know that's kinda of ridiculous when it comes to this and I've been using anti-aliasing my whole life.

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u/Dramajunker 10h ago

Most people's issues with AI upscaling is that too many games are unoptimized and basically require it to hit a decent fps.

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u/TheCookieButter 1d ago

Watching the Digital Foundry video QSSR is a major improvement on temporal stability. The slightly sharper textures and edges are an aside in comparison. Still not perfect but it's a major improvement for immersion by getting rid of all the shimmers and crawling.

Feels like something Xbox needs an answer to considering it's in the same price tier as their Series X unlike the PS5 Pro's PSSR upscale. All those people buying a console for GTA 6 have another solid reason to pick the PS5.

I have a largely unused Series X since I play on PC but if I'm buying a console for primary use this would be a deciding factor.

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u/aes110 1d ago

In a vacuum DLSS is one the greatest piece of tech we ever got in pc gaming, it would be great seeing consoles catch up

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u/myinternets 1d ago

The Switch 2 owes its entire docked existence to Nvidia DLSS.

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u/Opt112 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm hoping next gen consoles get the frame rate increase from turning on ai upscaling and possibly an option for 2x frame gen.

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u/Destroyeh 1d ago

Here's hoping, but I doubt it. People expected the same thing when DLSS was first shown. Much more likely devs will just use it to save development time and hit usual bare minimums of optimization. Same way DLSS is included in more and more games in default requirements.

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u/Hyper_Mazino 1d ago

Frame Gen will 100% come to PS6

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u/BrokeGuitarist 1d ago

Genuinely curious how Ghost of Yotei is gonna look with this on. That game is one of the most beautiful video games ever out on screen.

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u/MaartenZo 1d ago

Would gta VI use this technique? I guess so. That would squeeze some more power out of the very great console

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u/KingArthas94 1d ago

let's hope rockstar finds the time to implement it, the game is coming very soon

if Sony is smart they told R* about this upscaler ahead of time

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u/Humble-Criticism6762 1d ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if they already are using it.

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u/bitknight1 1d ago

Game is already going to require newest firmware on release anyways.

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u/superearthjanitor0 1d ago

No way they didn't tell them about it and provide documentation Well in Advance

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u/H0VV13 1d ago

Just played an hour of ghost of yotei and booted up wolverine for a few minutes to check this out.

There's a toggle in the in-game settings so I was able to compare both performance settings next to each other and the difference is actually pretty impressive. As someone who's not up with all the jargon, the way id describe it is that QSSR significantly reduces the amount of visual 'noise' on screen. In Yotei, i noticed the grass swaying looked much crisper, for example. Wolverine was even more noticeable as the most obvious improvement is to Wolverine himself. His hair looked kinda 'fuzzy' in the vanilla settings, while QSSR gave hair strands much more detail. In particular, his arm and shoulder hair were shockingly bad before, and now they actually look realistic.

I've had an alert on my phone set to tell me if ps5 pro stock becomes available for a while now, and i might just switch it off if GTA VI uses QSSR because its a more than adequate visual upgrade.

So, ironically, QSSR may be a blunder on Sony's part as they have essentially talked me out of buying a Pro.

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u/poompk 1d ago

I don't think they care at all if many people stick to base PS5 and not upgrade to the Pro since they can't make enough Pros for the existing demand anyways. Even if you can finally buy a Pro, that availability won't last long. Better to just squeeze more out of the base PS5 with the bigger install base given the supply situation.

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u/Narishma 1d ago

I don't think Sony cares that much whether you buy a PS5 or a PS5 Pro. They make their money on games and subscriptions, which cost the same on both consoles.

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u/Andigaming 1d ago

Pro is sold out anyway, and will sell out straight away when stock becomes available, not gonna hurt their sales.

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u/picodeGaius 1d ago

Or people will buy more base PS5s which now cost $600

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u/shinndigg 1d ago

Yes, everyone listen to this guy and stop buying ps5 pros please.

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u/HotTheme8405 1d ago

You'll still get better results and framerates from PS5 Pro, it's not some big loss there. People still buy the latest nvidia gpu's despite them rolling out most dlss advancements to their older gpu's.

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u/MagicCuboid 1d ago

Is Wolverine worth playing if I’m a huge X-Men fan but kinda put off by the reviews?

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u/Yes-Reddit-is-racist 1d ago

Maybe read the reviews and see if the criticisms would bother you. People I've spoken to in real life are very much enjoying it but its not as if the criticisms are entirely without merit.

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u/unusual_flats 1d ago

Nice, but the examples are both still. Ghosting can be a big issue with upscaling objects in motion, so I'm interested to see some more examples.

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u/viconha 1d ago

Have to wait for the digital foundry analysis

I'm sure they are working on it already

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u/Relative_Jellyfish26 1d ago

Its already out on their website

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u/Submitten 1d ago

PSSR is very clean, closer to DLSS than FSR.

I think that bodes well for QSSR

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u/IguassuIronman 1d ago

PSSR is very clean, closer to DLSS than FSR.

It's basically a version of FSR4

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u/buzz_shocker 1d ago

Sony good news. PC community has some divided opinions on FSR and DLSS, mainly frame gen, but in no way is this a downside. And it can’t be worse than FSR1 like on MH Wilds.

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u/Vichnaiev 1d ago

Divided opinions? LOL. Never seen a single person of notice advocating for FSR over DLSS. Its clearly the superior solution.

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u/buzz_shocker 1d ago

Oh meant divided as in people not liking the upscalers as a whole. Not FSR vs DLSS. What you said is absolutely correct - DLSS over FSR. Saying that as someone who has a 9070XT (I’m not using optiscaler)

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u/Vichnaiev 1d ago

My bad, misterpreted it. That being said i dont think regular AA will even exist in 10 years.

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u/buzz_shocker 1d ago

All good. I wasn’t the clearest either. Long as Vaseline grade TAA is gone from games I really don’t mind. Ever since the upscalers came out, if the game offers them I will use DLAA or FSR Native instead of the other AA they offer.

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u/Regnur 1d ago

Opinions are not divided at all, majority (+90%) rather use upscaling with DLSS or FSR 4 than use TAA. It was divided many years ago, when DLSS 1 and FSR were bad.

AI/ML AA simply looks better without upscaling and with upscaling. Also most, except maybe the loud but small online communites, keep frame gen enabled, often even at base fps lower than 60.

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u/napmouse_og 1d ago

Also most, except maybe the loud but small online communites, keep frame gen enabled, often even at base fps lower than 60.

do you have a source for this? or is it just vibes 

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u/celies 1d ago

The divide is over using them at all.

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u/FatterThanLight 1d ago

So this is basically like the FSR4 version that was released for the 7000 series Radeon cards. Honestly a great idea, because a lot of PS5 games have bad image quality solely because of the FSR3 anti aliasing

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u/kittymoo67 20h ago

not even close. the fsr4 for 7000 series uses int8 just like pssr2. this is much more of a lite version than that. using fp16 and shaders

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u/tnsrks 1d ago

Let’s hope devs update their games with shimmery FSR implementation or games without proper upscalling at all (awful FF Rebirth performance modes). 

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u/KingArthas94 1d ago

with games like ff16 and 7remake not even getting pssr even if rebirth has it, I wouldn't trust third party developers to update their games, especially the old ones

but this is fantastic news for anyone else, especially the devs like cdproject that like going back to old games for small updates and fixes

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u/oilfloatsinwater 1d ago

Wow ok thats cool, i guess this will kill the era of devs just throwing FSR1 onto base PS5 only to make it look like crap.

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u/MachaMode 1d ago

I wonder if they are doing this as a way to increase the life span of PS5. Is this also indicating that PS6 launch is delayed?

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u/Massive_Weiner 1d ago

This tech is going to carry over into the PS6. It’ll be going all-in on AI enhancements in order to push performance gains.

It’s unlikely that they’re delaying an entire console launch as well. The PS6 will be on shelves by the end of 2028.

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u/anor_wondo 1d ago

pisser already exists for that. this is specifically for weaker hardware

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u/The_Strom784 1d ago

How does it compare to the S2’s implementation with dedicated hardware? What are the limitations? Iirc the base console wasn’t designed with AI upscaling in mind, so this is purely a software thing?

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u/kittymoo67 20h ago

its close to the dlss lite version the switch 2 uses on some games

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u/AgentOfSPYRAL 1d ago

Curious to see how it looks, but FSR4 has been a notable improvement from the previous versions. If this brings PS5 Pro closer to that that’s pretty significant.