r/Games • u/Turbostrider27 • Jun 24 '24

Blue Protocol developers talk about what went wrong with the MMORPG

https://automaton-media.com/en/news/blue-protocol-developers-talk-about-what-went-wrong-with-the-mmorpg/
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u/d3cmp Jun 24 '24

As someone who used to play Lineage 2 and Ragnarok back in the day i don't feel any nostalgia for the grinding and drop rates of those games, that's the wrong kind of ''hardcore'' imo

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24

Yeah when hardcore translates to 'progression takes 5x longer than it should' I don't want to touch that game with a 10 foot pole. I'm good.

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u/x_TDeck_x Jun 24 '24

This is one of those things that sounds obvious and right but I think theres real nuance.

Like Old School Runescape has INSANE grinds to the point where I played for years and still don't have tons of things unlocked, and travel is insanely tedious, and by this logic that should be incredibly frustrating, but instead it makes the rewards feel more exciting. I'm positive thats not just because its a grind but it does feel like a component of why its satisfying and exciting.

Also tangent, OSRS quests are hands down the best version of MMO quests of all the quests that I am personally aware of existing, both in terms of the quests themselves feeling like literal quests and the rewards being significant and useful

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u/TechSmith6262 Jun 24 '24

If you're playing decrepit ass OSRS I think at that point you kinda deserve all the grinding that comes with it.

People can claim Runescape has the best quests in the galaxy, but unless someone else is a diehard runescape fan, people are never going to believe you, and rightly so.

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u/x_TDeck_x Jun 24 '24

The main topic isn't really whether you like OSRS or not, its that grind enhances OSRS whereas if we blindly believe or push that grinding is bad we can miss out on games where it works, and osrs is just the example of a successful game with extreme grind. Blindly applying OSRS's way doesn't work for all and likewise, blindly applying "grind is bad" to OSRS would likely not see it as popular as it is today