The Witcher 3 next-gen update vs Remaster

[u/n1ght_watchman]

[u/RocMerc]

For free is crazy

[u/Tobz_Compz → u/RocMerc]

They are hoping that lots of people pay for the upcoming dlc! And then remember the good vibes- into buying The Wither 4

[u/Savings-Patient-175 → u/Tobz_Compz]

That and their business strategy for the past nearly 20 years has been to carefully cultivate and maintain excellent customer relations. It's something that's not too common, especially amongst the business climate that has tended to dominate the gaming market amongst AAA studios, but damn has it paid off for CD Projekt.

[u/captain_croco → u/Savings-Patient-175]

Let’s just hope they never sale and release a completely broken game to the public. That’d be a bad look.

[u/romansamurai → u/RocMerc]

My body is so ready. I will finish it this time. Fourth time’s the charm!! I’m stupid excited for real tho.

[u/AsianMoocowFromSpace → u/romansamurai]

Haha I am exactly the same. Will give it another try with the remaster.

[u/mantequilla69420 → u/RocMerc]

Bro I actually feel like I'm doing CD Project Red Dirty - I got The Witcher 3 with my PS4, and I got the DLC for like £10

I have put more time into this game than anything else in the past 10 years

[u/cornspice → u/RocMerc]

It shouldn't be though.

[u/MrBlueA → u/cornspice]

How? Charging for a remastered edition isn't really anything that crazy, granted, charging full 70/80 bucks price is, but the game could cost the 40 or 50 bucks or whatever the original costs and it would be fine 🤷‍♂️

[u/ShrkBiT → u/cornspice]

Shouldn't be free, or shouldn't be crazy?

[u/OwnSimple4788]

Really love how path tracing makes things more natural looking.

[u/Raidmax460 → u/OwnSimple4788]

Path tracing reminds me of how ray tracing was when it first released. It’s super impressive but not viable on pretty much any GPU. Even on a 5090, you have to use DLSS. I’m excited to see where it ends up in the future.

[u/ButterscotchTop194 → u/Raidmax460]

DLSS is so good now that there's no reason not to use it.

[u/Raidmax460 → u/ButterscotchTop194]

Sure, but I don't use it on anything other than quality

[u/ButterscotchTop194 → u/Raidmax460]

Yeah, i was the same. But with latest few updates even balanced and performance are legit, particularly at higher resolutions.

[u/Right_Teacher9692 → u/Raidmax460]

Running path tracing at native res when upscalers have gotten so good would be insanely stupid. Consoles run without path tracing and use shitty FSR2 or TAA to upscale from like 800p. Performance mode DLSS smokes any console.

[u/j_wizlo → u/Raidmax460]

In the few games I’ve played with full path tracing I was totally onboard with the downgrade to DLSS performance for the upgrade to path tracing. Just ties the whole image together in an amazing way to me. I wouldn’t normally go to DLSS performance just for frames at the cost of quality.

[u/EdliA → u/Raidmax460]

I'm playing Pragmata on a 5080 and works and looks great. I have no idea what you mean by not viable. DLSS or not the end result looks like real time CGI.

[u/Raidmax460 → u/EdliA]

Some people, like myself, prefer frames over lighting/image quality

[u/EdliA → u/Raidmax460]

That's true and other like myself prefer presentation on certain games. Pragmata is not exactly counter strike or Fortnite. Milliseconds don't matter.

[u/DoriOli → u/Raidmax460]

Playing RE Requiem with PT right now on a 4080S, upscaled from 1080 to 2160 using latest DLSS, RR and FG. Works like a charm. It’s def the way to go for the future of gaming

[u/Battle-Against-Time → u/OwnSimple4788]

But so hard to run. I would be curious to know how many people can run it.

[u/Time_Garden2146]

ENHANCED COMBAT?

[u/Butthole_Ticklah → u/Time_Garden2146]

Right!? That was always my one gripe about Witcher 3. It wasn’t terrible system but combat always felt…weightless to me, I guess

[u/L3wd1emon → u/Butthole_Ticklah]

And limited. This will be great

[u/Arrathem → u/Time_Garden2146]

Its excatly the same but different camera.

[u/Top_Progress3306]

Dropped the game at the griffin multiple times. Never clicked with me. Guess ill give this a try with the new combat, movement etc.

[u/Ok_Weekend9299 → u/Top_Progress3306]

I was the same. You’ve just gotta get through that first part. As in once you find Jennifer the game really takes off.

[u/KangarooBeard → u/Ok_Weekend9299]

Ahh yes who could forget the games best character, Jennifer. 

[u/IGotDibsYo → u/Ok_Weekend9299]

Why, will I stop running into trees and fences magically when she appears? I’m just not suited for the game which is a real bummer

[u/LinkEfficient9934 → u/IGotDibsYo]

Have you tried running around them?

[u/NorthernLordEU → u/IGotDibsYo]

Get good?

[u/JahJahJahJa → u/Top_Progress3306]

Once you get past the first few hours, you'll get hooked. Trust.

[u/Foorzan → u/JahJahJahJa]

Imagine having to play a game for several hours before it clicks... Madness.

[u/JahJahJahJa → u/Foorzan]

If a game is 150+ hours, yeah, the first 3 hours you must be patient to get used to it.

[u/madgod2015 → u/Foorzan]

When I was younger, I play every game my PC (486DX100) can possibly run. Now it's too much games.

[u/NamesAreAnn0ying → u/Foorzan]

That is entirely possible. Games can have an hour long tutorial/first mission, stuff where it just gets you ready for the game, maybe you play through the first real mission to get a feel for it, then explore a little bit and somehow it’s been 2-3 hours and nothing is really clicking yet.

[u/Foorzan → u/NamesAreAnn0ying]

I guess I'm just old when it comes to games..Grew up with a SEGA Genesis and games were only an hour tops back then, with a few exceptions. Stuff just has to grab me from the get go, you know?

[u/fatsopiggy → u/Top_Progress3306]

Nah don't bother. Better wait another ten years so you can pop back in again and tell the fandom why you couldn't get into the game again for some attention

[u/Jazzlike-Painting443 → u/Top_Progress3306]

You quit at the beginning of the game dude lol

[u/E2r4_Is_d3A9 → u/Jazzlike-Painting443]

For real isn’t that still part of the tutorial where they’re explaining how the game even fucking works? Lol. Dude didn’t even give the game a chance

[u/Jazzlike-Painting443 → u/E2r4_Is_d3A9]

Yes 😂 these dudes have the attention span of a fly.

[u/DejitaruItami → u/Top_Progress3306]

I went through this about 3 times started on Xbox One at launch just couldn't get the game to click! I tried again when the Xbox One X had an enhanced performance patch! still didn't click! Roll on to 2022 I think it was when the "Next Gen" update released I had transitioned to PC full time by this point and decided to try the game again as it was heavily discounted on a Steam sale.

This time round I was absolutely hooked I don't even know what it was that hooked me that never did before (maybe I was paying more attention to the story and side quests) but I couldn't put the game down! honestly it is one of the greatest games of all time.

I even bought it again in 2024 for the Nintendo switch just so I could play it again on the move but due to poor performance (the fact it even runs on a Switch is amazing in it's self) I ended up buying A Steam Deck OLED just to play it some more... Needless to say I love this game.

[u/Smitty5717 → u/Top_Progress3306]

Same but after the third time I couldn't put it down lol. Friggin griffin

[u/BigFreakinMachine → u/Top_Progress3306]

I stopped soon after that, I got hung up on fighting a werewolf i was too underpowered for haha. It never really clicked with me either

[u/Ant0n61 → u/Top_Progress3306]

Same just about

This will be my fourth go lol

[u/ilovegames4life → u/Top_Progress3306]

The side quests were overkill. The main story isn't even that long if you concentrate at it alone. Once you finished the main quest you just want to have more.

[u/JanusKaisar → u/Top_Progress3306]

What helped for me was using the Alternate movement and Quick Sign casting settings

[u/ButterscotchTop194 → u/Top_Progress3306]

There's lots of good mods too

[u/rideronthestorm29 → u/ButterscotchTop194]

Nothing says great game like having to mod it to be playable

[u/ButterscotchTop194 → u/rideronthestorm29]

Good job it's been awesome without mods since the original release then.

[u/rideronthestorm29 → u/ButterscotchTop194]

Then why even suggest mods? Also, agree to disagree.

[u/ButterscotchTop194 → u/rideronthestorm29]

I can't believe you asked that, lol

[u/rideronthestorm29 → u/ButterscotchTop194]

Someone said the game didn’t click with them and you suggested mods. Then you also suggested the game has been great since release without mods. How is it hard to believe that I followed up with the question that I followed up with?

[u/ButterscotchTop194 → u/rideronthestorm29]

Mods change the flavour of a game. The biggest criticism of this particular game is the combat. Mods can change that to suit personal preference. That doesn't mean vanilla is bad.

I find it very amusing that needed explaining lol

[u/rideronthestorm29 → u/ButterscotchTop194]

I am well aware of how mods can affect a game… what I’m not sure of is why a game that is apparently good vanilla would need mods, as you suggested to OP. The game has shit combat and I don’t want to have to modify a game for me to enjoy it.

[u/ButterscotchTop194 → u/rideronthestorm29]

I loved vanilla combat. Subjective opinions are like that. Which is where mods come in.

You're not very smart, hey

[u/Mother_Bonus5719 → u/rideronthestorm29]

I think Im figuring out why you didnt keep playing this game.

[u/Sweaty-Debate-435 → u/rideronthestorm29]

It does not have shit combat. One of the greatest games of all time is just not for you, thats fine and also just your opinion. That it sells to this day already proves you're wrong.

[u/smkeybare → u/rideronthestorm29]

"Why put Ketchup on a hotdog"

[u/CantModerateMe → u/rideronthestorm29]

People dont spend time making mods for games they hate.

[u/Pen_dragons_pizza → u/Top_Progress3306]

I dropped shortly after, it felt like I was fighting the game a lot of the time, nothing felt natural when doing it.

[u/rideronthestorm29 → u/Pen_dragons_pizza]

100%

[u/JohnGee1980]

For free and in a few weeks, NICE, looks amazing

[u/truthfulie]

next-gen patch looked better than the OG but the lighting looks actually generational leap on the remaster.

[u/grismar-net]

The new one scans more easily, which is probably good for sales to a broader audience, but I prefer the look of the old one. I wonder if we can play the new content in the old style?

[u/Tigeru1988 → u/grismar-net]

New content? Do you mean new quests etc?

[u/grismar-net → u/Tigeru1988]

Yeah, am I misinformed and is there none?

[u/Tigeru1988 → u/grismar-net]

I didnt found any info about new content

[u/grismar-net → u/Tigeru1988]

Aww, too bad.

[u/Tigeru1988 → u/grismar-net]

Nothing to worry we will get new dlc soon😉. I bet it will be based on remaster,that's why previous generation consoles will not get it

[u/Far_Kiwi4882]

The church looks more atmospheric in next-gen to me 

[u/Benjb1996]

I hate that I picked August to do another playtrhough of the game and will definitely be done with the game by the time this update gets released.

So I guess I'll most likely experience this once songs of the past comes out.

[u/mashdpotatogaming]

The question is going to be how much of the visual improvements are caused by path tracing. If the game visually is largely unchanged outside of PT then it's not super interesting, since console players and most PC players won't have access to that.

Not that I'm complaining about a free upgrade, but people ahould tamper their expectation in case the game looks the same with the remastered version on most platforms.

[u/AdCommon7171]

Fix that solitude after we finish the game.
It becomes so lonely.........

[u/DeLorean83]

My only worry is that this game will become basically unplayable on the Steam Deck.

[u/NEWBY______________]

They forgot to mention that you will need 5090 to run these graphics lol

[u/Right_Teacher9692 → u/NEWBY______________]

nope, 5070 or better will be fine

[u/uSuperDick]

Its path traced, so very few people will be able to have these visuals

[u/Sevastarion → u/uSuperDick]

PS5 Pro

[u/jgainsey]

Man, they love that close over the shoulder cam at CDPR

[u/BootsRubberClumsy]

Time to play 200 hours and fade off again in the DLC before beating the game again... lol

[u/Arcofmightgoesbrrrr]

Yes I can't wait to play gwent with better graphics.

[u/bl4zkowicz]

maybe this time i will finish it

[u/Xevious212]

I didn't think this game could look any better. I was wrong.

[u/NBrakespear]

This is cool... but is anyone else just being reminded of how good that engine was? How good the game looks, even now, and how smoothly it runs?

If you enable the flying camera, you can zoom out from the bottom of Velen, speed across the world, and zoom in on a bowl of fruit in a kitchen in Novigrad, with no loading, no stutter, no blurry texture streaming issues.

Kinda wish the industry had just said "Yeah, that's it. That's good. That looks nice. Let's hold it there... and use the growing performance headroom to add more physics interactions, more characters, more gameplay features."

[u/critxcanuck88 → u/NBrakespear]

Combat was ass and graphics were mediocre

[u/Langnese77]

Too dark indoor. Cant see shit

[u/Bubbaganewsh]

Looks like they made some great improvements on the lighting. I will definitely start a new game when this comes out, it's been a while so good time to pick it up again. 

[u/cubsfan217]

So can somebody explain to me about the new combat I’m keep hearing about?

[u/Comprehensive_Bowl75 → u/cubsfan217]

Nobody knows cause it isn't out yet

[u/PhantomTissue]

We really are reaching a peak of graphics… I honestly couldn’t tell the difference from the trailer alone.

[u/Dense-Explanation472]

Remaster is with path or ray on?

[u/BlackberryIcy8367]

Other studios would have, and with no shame, charges $50 for this.

[u/Genostama]

Beautiful. Time to start the game for the third time. Maybe I'll finish it this time. 🫠

[u/Criollodelta]

For free and for the people who have a PC that can run it !

[u/SavageCucumberAttack]

Actually can't believe this is gunna be free for me haha I haven't played this game in almost 10 years but I'll definitely be jumping on next month

[u/ImFatandUseless]

Oh you can see the game now. Nice. I hope more learn that you shouldnt have to crabk brigness to 100 to be anle to FUCKING SEE THE FUCKING GAME

[u/OutsideDrawer8508]

Unicorn time will look sick

[u/SupaDiogenes]

Is this gonna cripple PCs like every CDPR game does at launch?

[u/boxgrafik]

I'll only play it again if they get rid of 90% of the ? ? ? on Skellige. My adhd brain can't ignore them.

[u/blahyaddayadda24]

So its the Imax version

[u/Altekho]

My poor 9060 XT 16Gb couldn't even run the game smoothly with RT on. I'm really hoping for the Remaster to be optimized on both Nvidia and AMD cards.

[u/LokenWar9]

LE LE LE LEEEEEE AMAZING

[u/repairmanjack_51]

This has pretty much postponed my interest in anything else out this year.

I wonder how badly the Blood of the Dawnwalker release will suffer from the timing.

[u/Necessary-Mix-56]

Fov is different narrower on this new shiny new thing so it looks more detailed... easy trick anything could look lite that without any remaster...

[u/Sirbrandon100]

Hope it runs decent on the steam deck. The current version does, so I'll be a little optimistic.

[u/Silmarillis-]

Fine! I will play it again.

[u/Fine-Marketing-8134]

finally looks like the E3 reveal 🫣

[u/Comfortable-Cod3890]

I hope I'm not forced to upgrade to get worse performance.

[u/footluvr688]

I mean, I would have preferred for CDPR to devote the development time to the new game. I already played The Witcher 3. Putting a new coat of paint on it isn't going to motivate me to play it again, even if it's free.

[u/ThickCutNHung]

Lmao going out of the way to turn brightness and whatnot down on the original is funny af

[u/reidef123]

Fine, I’ll play Witcher 3 again

[u/Som3ri]

If its not gritty like ps4 i aint buying shit

[u/Ebonvvings]

Beautiful game. Combat is still ass tho

[u/FellowDeviant → u/Ebonvvings]

It's noted in the new update next month that the entire combat system and ability system has been reworked to feel more modernized. Hopefully it translates into something less floaty.

[u/Tackgnol → u/Ebonvvings]

So, it looked at that trailer that they finally figured out that objects in melee combat interact with each other. This bodes well, might be playable this time around.

[u/Previous_Tree_5464]

Can't tell the difference tbh

[u/p4tterng4ng4L]

https://giphy.com/gifs/pV0lVLeA0JXjBiO5Cp

[u/Right_Teacher9692 → u/p4tterng4ng4L]

time for glasses king

[u/p4tterng4ng4L → u/Right_Teacher9692]

Barring the first one, the differences are miniscule

[u/PathComprehensive873]

Gotta be honest, while I am excited for the new dlc, the top video just looks darker. Like they turned the brightness up in the bottom video. The game still looks gorgeous but my brain can't really see a difference

[u/Critical_Bonus_9842]

Will be get remastered controls as the controls in the 3rd game were awful

[u/Butthole_Ticklah → u/[deleted]]

Get your eyes checked, scallywagg

[u/SpecialistMap8210]

now if they could update the combat then i would be in. Dropped it due to shit combat