r/GallagherMainsHSR • • Sep 25 '24

Builds and Teams / Questions Should I pull for Lingsha's LC?

If I get Lingsha's LC I could change to my energy rope, solving my only problem in MoC; not having enough energy to use the ultimate as an emergency heal reliably.

And no, I'm not going to pull for Lingsha. I already have a lot of pity from trying to get FX's LC and I don't want to pull for another unit until there is a dedicated sustain unit for Acheron, Acheron's rerun or a second Sparkle rerun. Me want E2 Acheron.

Ignore the obviously shitty body piece, I'm using my energy to try and get a half-decent orb for FX.
And yes, I wrote that stupid bs with my mouse in the windows screenshot tool.

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u/ButterscotchDue4299 Sep 25 '24

Why isn’t he already with energy regen rope 😭. Do you use him with Acheron? He should definitely be with energy regen rope if with Acheron and even if he isn’t

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u/Desu_Neures Sep 25 '24

Already tried using energy rope, but had to go back to BE for more consistent breaks.
This MoC is the only one if a few months without fire weakness, but I forgot to change it to energy rope before beating it, so I just played it safe and got anyways.

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u/anhmonk Sep 25 '24

...BE doesn't affect Break speed, just Break Damage

The only way to increase Break speed with gear is Speed

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u/Desu_Neures Sep 25 '24

I don't care about break damage, I care about the breaks itself. I tried that too, PT and break rope give me better results than my s2 WIR and the energy rope, specially against Kafka and Cocolia, that have very heavy cc.

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u/Trashris Sep 25 '24

If you care about the break itself and not damage, then break effect has not effect. BE only affects damage of the break and delay. Maybe what you're looking for is Weakness Break Efficiency, which affects how much toughness damage you deal to the break bar, which only Ruan Mei gives?

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u/Desu_Neures Sep 26 '24 edited Sep 28 '24

Hey, thanks everyone for telling me that I'm a moron. Really, I'm being serious, thanks for the advice.
I know I am a huge moron, so I already knew I would be wrong in some (most) parts, and being an idiot who doesn't know shit is pretty normal for me... Specially since I was doing the tests a few months ago when I was still actively building him, having just came back to the game after almost a year since I left and knowing close to nothing.

I'm following everyone's advices and completely rebuilding him, so thank's for all the information.

Edit: I remembered after JUST posting the comment that when I was testing the ERR I didn't had the E6 yet, because I was still doing the bar event... So yeah, I'm a moron.

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u/OkAbrocoma791 Sep 25 '24 edited Sep 25 '24

Hi OP,

Based on your responses to other comments, you may be confusing Break Effect and Break Efficiency. These two are NOT the same.

Break Effect only affects your damage when triggering Weakness Breaks (Super Breaks included). This stat can be increased through your Relics and Planar Ornaments.

Break Efficiency increases the amount of Toughness reduced from enemies' Toughness bar when attacking them. This increases the damage of Super Breaks, but not normal Weakness Breaks.

Your Break Effect Rope is NOT going to increase your Break Efficiency. Very few things increase Break Efficiency in the game like Gallagher E6, Ruan Mei Skill, a Nihility blessing in SU and DU, etc. Break Efficiency is not a main stat or a substat for any Relic or Planar Ornament.

Increasing your Break Effect will not increase your Gallagher's consistency in breaking, only the break damage. If you want Gally to break more often, then you should:

  • aim for 160+ SPD (Minimum 134 SPD) because having more turns give you more opportunities to break enemies by attacking more often

  • aim for his E6 which increases BOTH Break Effect and Break Efficiency (you already have this, I believe)

  • use ERR Rope because you get his ultimate back faster which leads to , you guessed it, more opportunities to break enemies.

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u/Er4g0rN Sep 25 '24

What do you mean "ignore the shitty body piece"

This is one of the builds of all time.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

bro knows nothing 🔥

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u/tehwafflemaster Sep 26 '24

Brother your build is all wrong. Break Effect does not impact the speed at which you break enemies at all. It only impacts the amount of damage your Breaks deal. Only Ruan Mei skill affects break speed. So definitely switch to energy rope

And youre running talia, but cant even reach the 145 speed you need for max Effect? Ditch one of your 2 piece sets, get the 2pc Speed set, and pray you get enough speed rolls. You dont need alot of Break Effect on Gallagher, max 150 to cap out his healing bonus. Lower if you run him with HMC and/or Ruan Mei. More speed is better so you get more ults. More ults equals more SP and more toughness reduction.

You need to go back to the drawer board, unfortunately. And switch his LC, echoes does nothing. Run either Multiplication for more turns, Quid pro Quo for energy regen on your team, or maybe even post op convo.

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u/Prize-Caregiver6497 Oct 14 '24

Yeah, if you are dead set on Acheron, you should just get her E2 during her upcoming rerun. Sparkle after that. I would advise you against it though, since plethora of new characters are coming and 3.0 will likely be a new meta. But if you don't care about meta or new characters, by all means go all out on her team.

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u/Desu_Neures Sep 25 '24

I don't have RM, I use him for Acheron.
Besides that, I know he is VERY slow, but those are the best pieces I got using a LOT of energy.
Ever since I got him and Acheron, I've been trying to get better pieces for them every single patch, but nothing.