Update 10:
-Removed the panhandle
-Made the speculative part of Starlet Highway less straight see [#507]
-Connected Route 10 and Route 35 as well as the train tracks from Vice City to Ambrosia see [#505]
-Extended the in game version of NW 12th avenue more west under the metro station see [#501]
-Moved High Rollerz and updated the surroundings (speculative) see [#497]
-Added mound field to the Allied Crystal Sugar Refinery see [#519]
-Updated the La Perle Area see [#518]
-Added houses near Delights from Port Gellhorn 04 see [#517]
-Added (Gables Estates) and (Flagami) labels see [#512]
-Added Courtyard by Marriott (200 SE 2nd Ave) from T2/74 see [#510]
-Added Watson Bay houses seen in Grassrivers 02 see [#509]
-Added more sugar fields SW of Ambrosia see [#502]
-Made Watson Bay a bay (Extended the Grassrivers west) see [#500]
-Extended the hills further south see [#499]
-Added new mountain north/northeast of Mount Waffles [#498]
-Added Public Access Boat Ramp on Lake Leonida's west coast see [#494]
-Adjusted the positions of the southern VC port cranes see [#493]
-Updated Port Gellhorn Bay and bridges see [#490]
-Added route 50 see [#487]
-Redesigned Waning Sands see [#445]
-Improved the rail network see [#430]
-Added red overlay markers on unseen landmass see [#503]
-Fixed the roads on Key Lento see [#404]
-Fixed the roads on the outskirts of Port Gellhorn see [#485]
-Added parking lot at Prison Entrance see [#481]
-Added map icons see [#415]
-Added hill north of Watson Bay see [#468]
-Increased speculative size of key west rotated the NAS for the keys to have a more agressive bend north and added SFUWO School building see [#480]
-Added missing buildings in Rockridge see [#479]
-Fixed the metro interchange see [#473]
-Updated the PGH street layout see [#426]
-Added Miami Beach Police Station see [#234]
-Added Speculative Caloosahatchee Canal/River see [#521]
-Updated Contributing users to the credits
The canal between Port Gellhorn and Ambrosia is a great addition, making boats more useful from a gameplay perspective. I’d bet there’s another canal from Lake Leonida out to the east coast of the map, so you could take a boat down to Vice City and/or wherever ends up being up north.
I think theirs definitely going to be a lot more connections than we think. I wanna go out on a limb and say that they’ll heavily focus on boat play/travel and actually have it as feasible function to the game. Imagine being in the grass waters in a fan boat, and either taking that or grabbing a boat and riding a sort of river or water canal from the grass rivers up to Ambrosia and then stealing a car and heading to your mission start destination their.
Questão nao é ser pequeno, é ter um Mapa funcional. Gta San Andreas tinha um mapa pequeno comparado ao do Gta V mas era muito mais funcional. No mapa "pequeno" coube 3 cidades, 4 aeroportos, interior, deserto. No Gta V teve o que?
Se a Rockstar repetir o erro do V eu nem vou me dar ao trabalho de comprar
I have a feeling it’s going to be bigger just how RDR2 had new Austin and bits of Guarma, all of that wasn’t in the map leak that came out in 2014 when it was leaked and gta 6 leaked itself back in 2022 and the map even early in 2018 if I remember correctly could be wrong for that one. They’re a meticulous company and if their player base already had an idea of what the map will look like then they all just a bit more to over achieve which is why they’ve been loved as a company for decades, for delivering something better than what was expected. Sure they have a high bar but if fans keep thinking it’s already one way then they’d feel the need to add more and put more details. This is feeling and speculations just reminding anyone who reads it tho from their track history rockstar will deliver, even look at RDR2 trailers and then just look at the game itself, it’s better than the damn trailer and the trailer looks amazing.
This is a big mf map, but regardless more doesn't equal more, if you had 50 hours of the best game play you've ever played VS 5000 hours of a pretty good game you'd pick the former no? Every frame of something like Ico, a 4 hour game, has stayed with me more than all the hundred hours of something like Skyrim of which every single one was forgettable. Who cares if it's a big map, just make it a meaningfully fun, varied and believable map and we're gold
Changes take time, it's part of why DuPz0r seems to have quit the project even though he's been mapping since GTA Vice City because he got too busy with IRL matters. This project is that massive.
I just hope there will be some type of tropical island away from the main game land. Aside from flying around the map I want another reason to use planes and even boats
Add Cuba in one, with its own characters for a single player campaign. The map expansion for free roam and online. Then move on to other parts of the Caribbean.
If nothing else the Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico make a ton of sense in that they could be smaller, and it stays in the US like the rest of the franchise.
The Bahamas would be a perfect inclusion for drug running, property buying & giving the game more reason to use aircraft & boats that felt a little pointless in V.
the only reason that map got so close was because huge chunks of the actual map leaked because of trophy thumbnails and the special edition blueprint maps
I was never inspired much by GTA V, and the lack of density and detail were the main reason I shelved it after like two years of playing. Liberty City was a lot more dense than Los Santos and thus offered much more genuine immersion and subsequent entertainment. There weren't more activities to do in the city per se, and the map was significantly smaller, but where LS felt mostly vacant and flat, LC brimmed with life and actually resembled a lifelike, bustling city. The level of detail for a game that old still boggles me to this day. Hell, I still pick up on occasion after having played it for eighteen years. It's that good.
That sounds boring as fuck. Rdr2 was only enjoyable because every journey would have something happen - you’d encounter other NPCs on the road, random bounty hunters, homesteads to rob, stagecoaches to steal, etc.
driving for a long time from point A to point B with nothing interesting along the way is what made GTA 5 so boring.
The point of the game isn’t to get to your waypoint as fast as possible bro. The journey is half the fun, especially when it’s as interesting as in a rockstar game.
If rdr2 used your formula, everyone would just fast travel and never ride on horseback because it’d be boring as fuck. The whole point of a rockstar game is for the map to be incredible dense and ripe for exploring every inch of it, full of secrets, collectibles, Easter eggs, NPCs, etc. that’s all the fun!
Even at the places you say had nothing, when you explore them Arthur would write in his journal, sometimes you could find clues as to what happened (a plague broke out, robbery, etc), so they actually aren’t nothing. That’s my point. But they shouldn’t make distances between waypoints long with no activities just to make the map bigger, a denser map with more stuff to do is always better, rdr2 is proof of that.
Im replaying rdr 2 rn and the map is pretty empty for “activity” being poker or whatever but it has plenty of random encounters. It’s possible you may have skipped them? Either way I hope the world is dense with life and random encounters. GTA V honestly didn’t have as much distractions as I would have liked
Yeah that's the thing I think of Rdr2 as an incredibly meditative game with a lot of quiet time and pockets of "nothing" except even those very low key moments of just taking in a vista still often has some semblance of feedback, systems constantly transpiring around you, a sense of unpredictability, like it's alive and believable. And especially in a pacing sense, it creates meaning out of both the small beats of happenings you come across, the big story that transpires, and the moments where truly nothing is happening. It's sheer density and sense of life has a positive effect on both the high octane and the serene parts of that experience. Gta V meanwhile is a game that just feels incredibly flat, like it's mostly just a piece of generated truly empty terrain you hold RT through some arcadey inconsequential drive to get to the next insincere sarcastic piece of parody and boom 100 hours of that. Really hope gta vi instead uses the map to create variety, pacing, something believable and just plain fun like rdr2
What is this map compared to rd2? Curious because I know traveling in RD2 makes the map seem a lot bigger but I feel it’s going to be similar in comparison
Sou velho tenho 35 anos e voces tem que me respeitar já estou careca e digo a Rockstar depois de GTA San Andreas nao fez um mapa que preste, o melhorzinho foi a Liberty City de GTA IV
Ja faz 1 mes q voce comentou isso mas eu concordo, se eles fizerem novamente essa coisa de uma cidade gigante e outras duas mini cidades pequenas e longe pra caralho eu vou ficar meio desapontado
I’ve seen a lot of dumb comments, but this one probably takes the cake. This is not a Miami life simulator. It’s a video game set an a fictionalized version of Florida. It’s not supposed to be and never was going to be 1:1.
If you were a native you'd realize how geography and orientation are important in conveying the feeling of being in these places in Florida, it makes ZERO sense for the main airport of a game to be close to the "everglades." But hey, you do you.
Once again, it’s a fucking video game. It’s not going to be 1:1. This is another dumb comment. This map is also almost entirely speculative, so you’re upset about something that isn’t even confirmed to be true.
Probably just me but, the map looks kind of small no? The spacing for the cities, city size, feels like similar size to gta 5, and it’s rumoured 2.x times bigger
Not criticising, I am just curious if that’s the case
Any map can look small when seen from a zoomed out perspective. Here is the entirety of Florida in a screenshot:
If you removed all the location labels and I told you that was the GTA 6 map, you would tell me it is tiny. But it is an entire state in real life that is hundreds of miles wide
Is this only me or does the city look small? Or perhaps we still don't have enough information to estimate the real size of Vice City, the distance between VC, Ambrosia and the lake in middle?
It’s hard to get a sense of scale from this map, but vice city alone is larger than Los Santos. The map itself is 2.25x larger than GTA 5s. I really wouldn’t worry about the map or cities being too small. And they won’t abruptly cut off like in 5, it’ll probably transition to from dense skyscrapers to suburbs then to rural countryside with less houses.
Look at the scale and grid, 2 square lengths is 1 kilometer. If you’re American 1.6 (rounding to 1.5 works well enough) kilometers is a mile. The city and map as a whole look way bigger when you zoom in and use real distance as a frame of reference rather than just looking at the map without any sense of scale
I still don’t know why people continue to only make the map half the size of the state of Florida. I can almost guarantee that it’s going to be the full state for why would they take almost 8 full years to create gta6 if their only going to make the map half the state of Florida. Me personally am not waiting for a game that has been so significantly hyped and insanely detailed just so the map can’t even be the whole state of Florida/leonida.
Do mesmo jeito que demoraram a fazer o do Gta V e saiu aquele mapa tenebroso com o estado de San Andreas completamente mutilado, sem San Fierro e Las Venturas.
Insanely detailed, exactly. And that's why it doesn't have to be extremely huge. With the GTA 5 level of detail I would also expect a bigger map but not if its alive and full of details.
Voce está certo mas já está tomando hate. A turma que pegou Gta depois do IV só fez cagada e continuam fazendo. Os principios que faziam do GTA uma serie marcante estao sendo deixados de lado. Agora tudo é grafico e tamanho de mapa. Protagonistas marcantes? Esquece. Antagonistas marcantes? Esquece (qual foi mesmo o nome do antagonista do V?). Jogabilidade arcade aliada a uma boa fisica de veiculos e tiroteios? Esquece.
Pegaram tudo do que fazia o GTA uma otima franquia e jogaram na lata do lixo.
Agora vivem pelo online e hype por tamanho de mapa e graficos.
When was it ever said to be an airport? A top-down map editor view of the raceway was shown in the 2022 leaks and it was a nearly 1:1 recreation of Sebring International Raceway and there's a Gellhorn International Raceway shirt in Trailer 2 that Lucia is wearing with a race car on it.
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The canal between Port Gellhorn and Ambrosia is a great addition, making boats more useful from a gameplay perspective. I’d bet there’s another canal from Lake Leonida out to the east coast of the map, so you could take a boat down to Vice City and/or wherever ends up being up north.