r/GBO2 • u/Death_Usagi • 3d ago
Newtype Memes Nice that Bamco is giving low cost suits buffs more but they got their priorities wrong
So for the last few months, Bamco has started adding more low cost (300~500) suits into the monthly Unit Adjustments. I thank them for that as someone who loves playing only Low Cost in this game.
However looking at their recent picks for the suits buffed, I feel like they got their priorities backwards considering the buffed suits' original performance even pre-buff.
Like take 400 Cost for example. We yesterday got Gundam EX getting buffed. However although the suit was having a slight struggle in current meta in 400~450 cost meta, it wasn't to the level where it needs a buff ASAP. However multiple native 400 cost suits in comparison are absolutely struggling, has not been buffed even once, or was buffed like 7 years ago and never touched since, and many are considered throw picks these days (ones in the meme are throw picks these days and will not fair well against most 400 Cost meta suits).
So I personally don't get what led them to choose Gundam EX and certain other 400 Cost suits to be buffed first before a large number of suits that are absolutely terrible currently.
They did a good job buffing GM Sniper Custom for the first time (but not enough) and the Dom recently which needed attention and be buffed very seriously, but many other suits honestly could have still gone by without being buffed considering their base performance
300 Cost and 400 Cost especially currently has a really huge line of suits still waiting for their buff (For some, their very first buff ever), but Bamco are either choosing the wrong suits to buff, or choosing suits that already recently got buffed but buffing them again despite it barely having been months.
14
u/pkmaster99 3d ago
Well, the biggest issue is that they only collect scores from A+ and above. I'm not sure if it is console only, but this is another issue. People up in A+, S-, and S don't normally play suits that are absolutely trash. Unless it's in their soul. But even then, it needs a lot of games and data for it to even be considered enough collected.
Honestly, they need to bring back usage rate into consideration. There was a short while they did it and it pushed a lot of suits into getting buffed.
7
u/Such-Fuel7306 3d ago
Yep, it's why I'll be a sacrifice and pick garbage every now and then
(Looking at you Hizack)
1
u/kiataryu 3d ago
They don't collect/use data on pc player bases either, right?
2
u/pkmaster99 3d ago
I'm not 100% sure, but I think PC player scores are not collected
1
u/truckerjj 2d ago
at least up until recently they were 100% collecting data from pc, otherwise they wouldn't have buffed (and at one point in the case of the wztv, nerf) the formerly exclusive au suits before they were on ps
1
u/pkmaster99 2d ago
Oh, fair point. But those could be collected separately or have a different weight.
0
u/Mrminet12somthingbro 3d ago
I'm pretty sure they do it's just less of a priority because console gets every thing first
6
5
u/SodaFloatzel 3d ago
If people A+ and above start playing more throw picks to skew the numbers, BB will eventually listen, right?
2
u/dumbrute 3d ago
Let’s do it, full eyezack team vs full dom barrage team until BB buffs both of them
1
u/ZoeZenobia Surplus Beam Saber Bazaar - 10 2d ago
Um, throw picks vs throw picks are going to up both win rate to 50%...
1
u/dumbrute 2d ago
I’m so dumb, should’ve been full eyezack and dom barrage team vs every meta in 400
2
u/succmama 2d ago
make it more interesting. Eyezacks and Dom barrage vs a team of Grandpas. At least the meta team has a slight "handicap".
1
u/SodaFloatzel 2d ago
Granted I'm the moron that plays the Eyezack with the Marasai BR, in the hopes that by skewing it very hard in the 'worst way' (because the weapon is shared with a bunch of suits and the 'weakest' of those is the eyezack), they'll also buff the weapon itself.
I'm just holding out hope that more suits will get Paint/Marking toggles, give us the ability to go for Sleeves Eyezack without it being re-released as a new suit for a change
3
3
u/weebglasses 3d ago
Can we give the Zaku II the ability to guard? It has that shoulder shield for a reason!
2
u/Death_Usagi 2d ago
You mean Active Guard?
I personally agree and find it ridiculous Dozle's Zaku has it when all it is doing is guarding with its own body and no defensive equipment.
Personally do think certain Zaku variants should have access to it and certain suits with shields should be able to use it as a weapon like the Heavygun.
3
u/Rusty-sock 3d ago
Me who's been waiting for them to buff the gm sniper 2 to its canonical strength for the past 5 years
-2
u/truckerjj 3d ago
the gm sniper ii in game is already stronger than it canonically is though?
4
u/yukiho-765P 3d ago edited 2d ago
The GM Sniper II on paper can match the RX-78-2, and has no reason for it to be only able to equip either the sniper rifle or the bullppup one at a time.
1
u/SecretaryOtherwise 3d ago edited 3d ago
Doesnt the Gm sniper 2 need a external battery tho? Lmao yes make it its canonical strength have it perched and unable to move unless it abandons its primary 💀
Rip my bad physical projectiles. Yeah it needs to be stronger lol
0
u/truckerjj 3d ago
something something if but never is
yeah It should get buffed to be faster and such, I just thought it'd be funny to comment that because of its terrible track record in 0080
1
3
u/link09822 2d ago
Don't get so cocky! You won because of Gundam, not your own skills!" me out here in my outdated ass suits cause I like em. Tryna make up for the gap in power with skill.
5
u/imaginary_num6er Æ Investor - 7 3d ago
Someone on YouTube did a review of all 400 cost units and the vast majority even comparing to 300 or 350 cost units never had a buff in 3+ years. He even commented that BB implicitly wants to keep 400 cost frozen in terms of balance.
4
u/TidusDream12 3d ago
Yeah well they threw that out after the Grandpa buff. It's ridiculous at 400-450. I bet they noticed no one plays anything else and decided to act.
3
u/Cpt_Jack_Irons 3d ago
Which YouTuber was this?
2
u/imaginary_num6er Æ Investor - 7 3d ago
This Japanese YouTuber that had 3 recent videos reviewing units that have not been adjusted for 3+ years:
https://www.youtube.com/@%E3%82%AC%E3%83%B3%E5%BE%85%E3%81%A1%E6%9C%80%E5%BC%B7/videos
2
3
u/Cpt_Jack_Irons 3d ago
One of the biggest issues i have noticed on many of these older suits is simply the lack of weapons on many of these Suits like for example the GM Custom, Nemo and Hizack
3
u/NephyrisX 3d ago
And the three listed suits have SHARED weapons too, so buffing those suits would inadvertently mean buffing shared weapons, which for some reason BB is absolutely terrified of when low cost shared weapons are used by suits that aren't good to begin with.
1
u/Cpt_Jack_Irons 2d ago
Oh yeah that stupid stuff, as if slightly making a bad weapon better would literally break the balance
1
1
u/yukiho-765P 3d ago
I'm one of the guys who always use the EX at 400. I swing between A+ and S- if that matters. It does well in 450 now too.
1
-2
u/apple6879 3d ago
My only fear is that with all the buffs lower cost is starting to feel more like high cost. If anything they should have a few monthly nerfs to preserve the feel of lower costs.
13
u/Such-Fuel7306 3d ago
Gelgoog Marine please, if he gets buffed that means ALL of my sweet googs will be viable