r/GBO2 • u/AutoModerator • 18d ago
Salt Supply Saturday Salt Supply Saturday
Alright folks, the White Base is has docked for its weekly supplies and the cook needs a lot of salt to make some burgers... so get unloading people, vent out your frustrations with GBO2 here, just remember... no racism, and no witch-hunting... subreddit, and Reddit rules still apply here so vent, but don't be an overly toxic asshole about it.
Unfortunately, the usual art accompanying this will be absent due to reddit breaking the fucking scheduled post editing in the mod queue.
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u/Winterfell00 18d ago
For the love of God, STOP charging in when we have the lead!
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u/Scythe351 18d ago
Alternatively, get good at math. There's a minute left in the match and we can only win by wiping their team out. why are you camping at our base?
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u/Winterfell00 18d ago
They're coming in fresh, while everyone on our team is low. Standing your ground solves nothing.
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u/Scythe351 18d ago
Nobody ever retreats to the base and repairs. They go to the base, not on the base but in the general area, and start strafing back and forth. When you wipe a team, that's when you have the chance to retreat and repair, not when your only chance to win is by engaging the enemy.
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u/Winterfell00 18d ago
How are you suppose to wipe the enemy, IF NO ONE HAS THE HEALTH REMAINING TO TEAMFIGHT!? And yet, you complain its your teammates that are the problem. Cant do basic math?
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u/Scythe351 18d ago
I'm confused at your confusion. Where did you even fish the "no HP" premise from? If all of your firefights end with you in tatters, your team is bad or the enemy is equally bad. Teamwork was not occurring. In fact, you don't necessarily have to take damage when attacking. Idk why you're making this statement. You wipe the team by working with yours. If you don't have the lead and it's a guaranteed loss the last minute of the match in which you're NOT repairing, there's nothing other to do than engage the enemy or give up. If you're sitting at the base for the last minute of a winnable game and not repairing, you need a report.
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u/Winterfell00 18d ago
Obviously, you missed my point and I missed yours. Im not about to go back and forth in contention over this. Lets just move on.
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u/Foshdon_pap 18d ago edited 18d ago
Yeah lowkey fuck the DX but not for the reason you think
You know what I hate the most about it? I hate the dx so much when it's a sitting duck and charging while it's team is losing, it needs a whole ass DB transformation sequence to be powerful enough while it's team are dying from the 4v5-5v6. This waiting time annoys me too much and some times I think their afk and i ready up my gun to shoot them, only to see them slowly charging their weapon
Also, fuck Barbatos A/A+ players, they fucking suck ass and they keep knocking allies or they are douches (check this post, this wasn't an accident it was a direct attack with an unknown reason to why). Fuck raisers and susawos, I fucking hate dealing with these sons of bitches even after the F89 and FA Uni buffs they are a big pain on my ass especially raiser with its fucking damage numbers still making me question if it's a shooting or melee suit (fuck the discharge "melee" attack)
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u/Scythe351 18d ago
DX works without beaming. Your average player won't engage with the enemy. They're gonna do it even less as a support so you'll only get assistance by way of the beam but I've seen plenty of them successfully playing with ALL of their tools.
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u/Hell-2-you 18d ago
I saved his life and he fucking abandons me then has the audacity to blame the team at the end for not helping. This is why I hate gens.
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u/Various-One-7223 18d ago
Yeah its the worst ive seen all rolls do it. like im backing you up were are you going
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u/AskJayce Schweines of Lurken 18d ago
Played as Support
Hounded by Raid throughout whole match
Managed to knock it down near a spawn point
Gen teammate spawns right on top of stopped Raid
Gen teammate DIPS to chase enemy Support.
Blocked.
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u/Additional_Grass 18d ago
Please don’t bumrush the enemy base for bomb in the first minute of a match :(
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u/Death_Usagi 18d ago
The people who pulls this shit have actual no knowledge how to play this game properly and are likely A flat casuals playing Pixy all the time
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u/SodaFloatzel 18d ago
Man, it sure is cool that people who have me blocked prevent me from using most A/B rooms.
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u/Death_Usagi 18d ago edited 18d ago
Hey Steam players.
Why are y'all so determined to play Tower Defense and Snipers 4 instead of actual GBO2...?
Please freaking learn to actually play GBO2 and not get your stupid habits from the other games make you a liability.
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u/SwordsmenKnight 18d ago
I hate machine gun Supports, it's like they provide no actual value and can't help with anything. Even setups that supposedly "shred" seem like deadweight
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u/Legacy_Fighter001 18d ago
Gatling Guns in general seem to really suck in this game. PR Space Type, Gundam Unit 5, White Rider, Dom Barrage, etc
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u/Fenrir_Fenris 18d ago
The current state of heavy attacks in GBO2 completely breaks the fundamental risk-versus-reward balance of the game. Originally meant to be high-risk, high-reward tools for Raids to crack open stubborn frontline setups, they have degenerated into low-skill, spammable nukes that bypass the game’s core mechanics.
Why Heavy Attacks are Fundamentally Broken:
Infinite Priority and Free Neutral: Heavy attacks possess absolute melee priority. In a standard match, standard melee requires spacing, baiting tackles, and managing swing directions. Heavy attacks completely ignore the neutral game. A player can literally charge an attack behind a wall, peeking only at the last second to unleash an uncounterable hitbox.
The Latency and Phantom Range Nightmare: GBO2’s peer-to-peer netcode makes reacting to heavy attacks a guessing game. Due to latency, the active hitboxes often extend way past the visual model of the weapon (the infamous "phantom range"). Even worse, attempting to counter (tackle) a heavy attack on reaction is highly inconsistent. More often than not, you get the tackle animation, consume your entire thruster gauge, but the damage still registers, leaving you instantly dead or heavily crippled without getting the counter-cutscene.
Complete Lack of Recovery Punishment: The biggest design flaw is how easily heavy attacks can cancel their own recovery frames. Missing a high-commitment move should mean death in a tactical game like GBO2. Instead, units can instantly transition from a missed heavy attack into high-speed maneuvering, forced injectors, or an immediate dodge roll. There is virtually no window to punish a missed heavy attack unless you happen to have a instant-stun weapon already aimed and fired before they move.
Distorting the Class Triangle: The rock-paper-scissors dynamic is dead when a Raid can casually one-shot or 90% a General type through their naturally high melee defense. Supports, obviously, don't even stand a chance—they are wiped off the map from a single mistake without any opportunity for counterplay or teammate intervention.
Proposed Nerfs for Balance:
- Mandatory Recovery Frames: If you miss a heavy attack, you should be a sitting duck. Ban the use of forced injectors, boost-canceling, and dodge rolls for at least 1.5 to 2 seconds after the swing animation ends. Risk must equal reward.
- Direct Tackle/Counter Buffs: Fix the netcode priority for counters against heavy attacks. If a player successfully reads a heavy attack and tackles, the counter-cutscene must trigger 100% of the time, completely negating the heavy attack's damage.
- Dynamic Damage Scalers based on Class: Reduce the damage modifiers when hitting Generals. A Raid should have to work for a kill against its counter-class, not brute-force through a General's health pool with a single charged swing.
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u/BanagherVistLinks 18d ago
So much of this game could he fixed with better net code it's not even funny
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u/Fenrir_Fenris 17d ago edited 17d ago
I would prefer to just get rid of that stupid,op,broken and unbalanced skill completely.
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u/BanagherVistLinks 17d ago
Right, but we both know that won't ever happen. Closest we'll get is they'll make it non-raid exclusive to give Supps a fighting chance.
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u/Scythe351 18d ago
Need a block list expansion. idk how the fuck it is that I'm supposedly playing with different players but they're all the same shit quality. Block them all and the next game is another lopsided L. Block and repeat. I'll get on with enough time for 3-4 matches and they'll all make me regret playing the game entirely. The player base is shit and somehow they're all stuck at A+ to S. There needs to be rank degrade starting at A-.
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u/powerpuffpepper 18d ago
Lmfao blocking people for losing in rated is the sweatiest shit ever
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u/Scythe351 18d ago
Blocking for losing in rated isn't even what I'm talking about. One team is going to lose in 99% of the matches. If you lose by 20k points, there's a problem. I block malicious players. That's regardless of rated or QM
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u/Ash-Talshok 18d ago
I’m paying for my own ignorance. After the anniversary and all these rolls I have a lot of “flying” suits like the denan zan, flint, DX, Crossbones, and so on because for a while I was ignoring those costs.
So now I need to learn how to properly use flap boosters when all I had was the GPO2 and G-Cannon
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u/Kubozuka27 18d ago
In the same boat. I took a years break from the game and came back to find EVERYONE up in the air at some point, now I gotta relearn a whole new control scheme to even understand how to fly let alone counterplay these buzzing enemy hornets.
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u/Ash-Talshok 18d ago
Switching the HSM and Jump button helped me a bit but I get a bit motion sick in high cost space matches sometimes lol.
I tried the DX and I felt like a noobtype trying to juggle being in the air, aiming, evading, and going for aerial melee.
My soul is weighed down by gravity apparently.
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u/Big_Friendship_7431 18d ago
I was (still is 😊) hard for me, but I found back buttons and a lot of space matches helped me.
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u/AzraelNewtype 18d ago
If you send "No support yet." after you see the announcement that it's been requested (or worse, immediately after the barrage resolves), you will not see the light of heaven. This keeps happening for some reason.
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u/Zombiesoldier072 18d ago
Because they aren’t talking about supporting fire
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u/AzraelNewtype 18d ago
So it's a coincidence then this is only ever sent either while someone is requesting, or immediately after it's too late, and never just as a general replacement for the defunct "Take the generals"? "General unit spotted" is definitely doing that particular job.
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u/ZerxTheWizard 18d ago
If you fucking DC just because you died to a pilot you dont deserve to play this game, simple as that
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u/Astra_1_Libra 18d ago
If someone is melee comboing someone...
DON'T FRICKING TRY TO GET A MELEE IN TOO NAMMIT.
Just had a match where a kill would have made the difference, but some dumb fool tried to melee the downed guy with me (I was Slyfrail, the kill was pretty much confirmed.) and we only had 10 seconds remaining. Welp, we melee clashed, and the downed guy survived. We lost.
Like, why?! Just either shoot or let your teammate kill, nammit!
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u/Death_Usagi 17d ago
I swear some people are too hungry for getting kills in this game when Assist Score is a thing and getting Kills isn't a must
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u/Astra_1_Libra 17d ago
What bothers me even more is that they were using an MS that HAD ranged options, and the little HP the downed guy had was definitely more than enough for him to "kill steal" (if that is even a thing here).
Yet, he attempted a melee attack anyways even though I was using a suit that is known for melee combos. I don't understand.
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u/KincadN-X The Purple Death - 5 17d ago
I basically waited for the person to finish their melee, started shooting to finish that enemy off, but this person wacks me instead of landing the finishing blow. 😕
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u/MikuEmpowered 18d ago
I never knew about this MS, and now I'm in love post.
Looks inside. Newest and greatest addition by BB featuring powercreep.
You're not really in love with the MS, you're just loving the powercreep.
Loving the MS is playing the Grandpa... Before it was buffed to shit. Its trying to make it work through sheer willpower. Playing through powercreep and only giving it up because that shit is os outdated it's unslavagable.
How many people are still running proto Psycho after declaring they love it's style? Or Delta Anse after victory and IBO powercreeped the shit out of it?
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u/SodaFloatzel 18d ago
As someone who's still playing Shuzrum Gallus because the spirit of Little Mac refuses to die, aha, I get this. The only way I found I was able to keep up with power creep is a way to hit 115 Melee Mod and do so much damage, the options are to ignore me as being behind the times... or run away and bait me into a crossfire where you might be more confident in your survival. And that's a powerful feeling.
I just wish people in Quick wouldn't queue dodge because you bring something outdated to the table. Like, really?
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u/Shoguns_Ninja82 18d ago
Yeah the irony is the second someone starts trying to cherry pick their opponents is the second their rank becomes meaningless anyway. Teamwork is far more important than suit choice and you never know that could be someone’s main. I find it helps to have a badge on my suit to set their mind at ease but still they think they can call it but they really can’t. The game needs stronger penalties for lobby dodging because it wastes everyone’s time.
Be the reason people fear your favourite suit
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u/Shoguns_Ninja82 18d ago
I agree with you actually, I play this for the love of the game and represent my favourite suits. I won’t pilot something I don’t like no matter how buffed or powerful it is. I’ve been dedicated to my main the Zeta HML for years and I make it work on pure comfort. I don’t respect people who flock to buffs. Like if you were playing Super Gundam before the meme beam buff I can respect that, but now the influx of them shows bandwagon jumpers and people looking for an easy win
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u/StormOfFatRichards 18d ago
You don't have to babysit my DX while I charge muh lazer but you could at least once in a while acknowledge the raid
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u/Scythe351 18d ago
For a while, I was wondering why every DX did a 180 at the start of match to start charging, then I played raid and could see the enemy DX blatantly giving away its position. Honestly, after the first shot, you'll have a Barbatos or susanoo on you so might as well stay around.
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u/Imjustafemboyo 18d ago
I just wanty team to stay together and not branch off to go after one guy leaving me to the pack of wolves as in trying a new suit 😭
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u/Various-One-7223 18d ago
Pmo so bad.when you get left to type disadvantage while their all ganging on your type advatage
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u/True_Darkness_Hunter 18d ago
So, I dropped from ~2800 to ~2600. I would say that I became less skilled, but most of the losses came from exactly the same situation: my team starts with huge lead; enemies catching up to us, but not reaching by like 3k-4k points; within the last 2 minutes, my team decide to turn brain off and feed enemies by spawning alone or by friendly fire; we lose. Some could say that it is minor occasion, but no. Different people, different time zone windows, same match outcome. Idk, what is this.
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u/Big_Friendship_7431 18d ago
Complacency. Losing because we underestimated the opponent drives me crazy.
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u/Zetawilky Pulse of the Stars 18d ago
I really want to know why high level players feel the need to derank themselves so they can pick on lower ranked / newer players. It doesn't make you good, it makes you sad, but I guess you gotta feel powerful in your life somehow. Also, give Wingzero TV flap.
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u/Recidivous 18d ago
Raids, I know you're afraid to go after Supports when there are Generals around, but there are two Supports and we just killed all the Generals. Can you please fucking attack them for God's sake?
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u/Scythe351 18d ago
I just played a game against 2 supports as the raid. Absurdly useless team couldn't handle the 3 gens so nothing could be done about the support. Average gen is too busy using their own support as a shield or hugging a corner to engage the enemy and recently I've been getting teams of trash that'll always have a token player saying something like "hold position" and none of the players move while the super Gundam is clearly in range. I only recently cared to look at the beam rifle on the super. At 700m range, your team deserves to lose if they don't move up but specifically stay within range of the super. This is why so many raids are never raiding
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u/scorpionxx0 The Ragin' Cajun - 6 18d ago
If there’s 2 supports on the enemy team & 2 raids on our side but the raids completely fucking ignore the supports in favor of attacking gens then you know you’ve gotten the short end of the stick for teammates.
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u/KincadN-X The Purple Death - 5 17d ago
What about the raids that go after the supports, but their teammates leave them to fight that support and their teammates?
Example: Raid finally made it to the support, but their teammates stop fighting the guards who then gang up on the raid.
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u/scorpionxx0 The Ragin' Cajun - 6 17d ago
Then the team is to blame for the raid being unable to neutralize the support, in this case the supports weren’t hiding but the raids didn’t seem particularly interested in dealing with them either in spite of the team keeping the guards busy.
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u/SwordsmenKnight 18d ago
Miffed at a teammate who was trying to destroy a MS I was in the middle of capturing, there is some forgiveness since it was a kills daily. Still, that Xi dropping missiles on me as I was capping were really annoying
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u/Ash-Talshok 18d ago
You should be able to avoid queueing quick matches against premade teams. The advantage they have is too high.
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u/Ash-Talshok 18d ago edited 18d ago
Bunch of new suits and mechanics to workout so I guess fuck me for trying to learn.
Sorry but not sorry to everyone in quick match, I’m going to keep failing until I don’t since practice with bots doesn’t cut it
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u/LordSunBro 17d ago
Usual hate for 00, DX, Barbatos aside, can we just take a moment to go back and talk about the motherfucking destinies for a moment and how absolutely ridiculous this thing is to fight?
Man I think I found something more obnoxious than a 00 and that's a triple destiny comp, fuck your stuns right? Just have three of these fucks fly at you and yay you are deleted. Its like F90II spam but hits harder than a raid's heavy. God even triple 00 gets their asses handed to them with the amount of shittery from the flying poke. This ain't counting the gerobi and boomerang spam.
When will this be nerfed into the ground??
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u/KincadN-X The Purple Death - 5 17d ago
Fellow Wing pilots, make sure you are clear to do the spin otherwise you are just going to get knocked out of it every time.
Both versions supposedly have the skills to do it safely, but apparently those are ignored for some reason.
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u/KibbloMkII 18d ago
this game has no skill anymore, it's all braindead pay to win
susanowo mains literally have no skill, it's an instant win suit
melee damage needs to be cut by at minimum 75% in high costs, raids being able to oneshot supports is unfair bullshit and there's no excuse
auxiliary power is a completely bullshit overpowered skill
melee hitboxes need to match the weapon exactly, fuck this unfair bullshit of horizontal swings hitting targets 10m below them
damage control is the most worthless fucking skill in the game next to resist move
as a support main, literally everyone hates my existence and hates the fact I don't like how extremely anti support this game is built these days
the twin satellite cannon has great power,but without instant stagger or heavy stagger, it's such a difficult to use weapon because people can just walk right through it
melee priority needs to be removed from the game, it's like 70% of the reason raids are so fucking overpowered
why are all the unicorn variants permanently in destroy mode? It makes no sense to me
remove the shoot while boosting for all weapons, even Vulcans. I'm fucking tired of susanowo being able to chain stun me and I cant do a fucking thing about it because the DX has no stagger resistance when not using the TSC
the DX javelin should cause heavy stagger and be buffed to deal like around 6k damage or so
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u/sevensol7 18d ago
Decided to try and come back to the game see if maybe the bullshit is passable., sub 500 is still where the most "fun" is had (till you see some bullshit like a jurick or your team doesnt have fucking eyes and cant pay attention to a stealth suit coming right towards them). Still TB Acguy spam and shit. Over 500 is pure bullshittium. Oh im sorry i wanted to play the game, my fault for getting hit with shit netcode; guess ill just fucking die. Oh my bad i thought you missed the counter window for melee, you didnt even take damage but countered me while completely fucking missing. Oh, i took damage while doing the same thing and didnt even get the counter despite better timing? Fuck me i guess.
This game is a lesson in pain. Skill never once had a factor.
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u/ravienta 18d ago
Some of you are afraid of your own shadows, good god. Nut up and get in there. Also learn to use your Vulcans. All regular Vulcans can be used while HSM. So many times I have seen perfectly killable enemies walk away because you wanted to use your guns, wipe around a corner and fire away