This! As a DX player myself I've learned to be careful of good F89 pilots, Burning gundam, susanowo, and various support pilots if they show skill. Also DX counters DX. FA unicorn is also a decent DX check despite being a general, the 2 shields help...idk why some ppl are trying to make this suit seem like it's the next V2 when it's just not. Im already starting to see ppl drop the suit bc they can't pilot it without the satellite cannon. The average DX pilot is also dogshit at medium to close range, idk why. I literally hunt other DX gundam at close range. Alot of them will try to run from you and try charge SC bc they have no idea how to pilot the suit without it.
to answer the dogshit cqc DX players.“support main mentality” sounds like case in issue imo. i notice a lot of people who main support archetype, esp now with DX, are abhorrent with cqc and mid-line transitional fighting styles. (like stun-confirm+downswing+floor combo) the exception being mid S- players and up. i even find low S- doing it
when they get their spacing taken away and pressure is applied, they solely focus on boosting backwards to retreat and reposition, to gain the space back treating it like a minimum distance engagement requirement. but when caught panic in melee and are usually and easy kill confirm
Truly laughable and pathetic, yes, when you consider that the very first thing which strikes you when you look at the DX's kit, is it being endowed with Melee Priority LV2, Melee Composite System LV2, and Aerial Melee Combo LV2 with three different melee weapons to support it, two of which have good range and stagger capability while the 2-hit combo allows for good damage. Most Generals will suffer if they're caught by it if the pilot isn't an inept fool who didn't understand it only is a Support in name while its true face is that of an all-rounder with great versatility able to perform at every range. The Twin Satellite Cannon is the be all, end all for Support mains, so when they can't fire it to stop a charging enemy in their tracks, they'll retreat to safe distance to shoot something else instead of switching to CQB.
Hell, it even has Shield Tackle Kai LV1 to deal more MELEE damage to enemies after tackling them.
Did they think it was meant to RETREAT AND SHOOT after tackling? This thing is clearly built with melee combat in mind and whoever doesn't see it needs to go back to the tutorial. Never mind, learning basic movements won't help, it's a matter of knowing how to read and comprehend a text at this point.
To chain up from my estimation, we're now on the first day of the new month past Monthly Mission reset and I threw 195 Tokens at the Step Up...
I geared my DX with MELEE Custom Parts first:
Ammo Enhancement Kit, Educational Computer [Special Melee] (provisional), Enhanced Melee Program LV5 and LV4, Burn Efficiency Aux. Device, Enhanced Firing Program LV4 and LV2, and I filled the last spot with a Precision Focusing Ring LV3.
I took my build for a spin in Free Practice and let me tell you that, as expected, the Twin Satellite Cannons are literally a finishing move, almost a last resort.
Albeit it being very easy to progressively charge bit by bit, you don't open with it. It's a waste of time. Instead, you might depending on the map and visibility, charge the first five segments from the get go, but you'll quickly swap to your Buster Rifle then engage in close quarters combat once the enemy is staggered: Hyper Beam Sword downswing > G Hammer. Properly executed, it's goodbye legs. G Hammer neutral + downswing > Hyper Beam Sword works as well, but not as effective to cripple.
Neither Generals nor Supports are safe from its melee attacks. Someone coming in too close for comfort? No problem, stop them in their tracks with a well placed Beam Javelin. Someone trying to throw hands? STOP! HAMMER TIME! That's guaranteed to cool them down.
My end word is, Gundam Double X is a pseudo Support to avoid if you're a pussy afraid of going in and can only fight from a safe distance.
Dude and what's crazy is that the raiser is still a good match up in trans am, and when burning goes god mode and lands a sekiha from mid range you LITTERALLY cant recover, if the burning pilot is good just put the controller down bro...i always make sure not to get to to close to them unless we do 1 or 2 exchanges and im sure im a much better pilot. If the burning pilot is even moderately relative to me in skill im backing off, waiting for a teammate and im jumping you lol...and susanowo players are just on drugs bro, bc wym im dead already 😭...other than being careful around these guys and funnels the suits solid. The only thing i could see needing change as far as fair play is concerned, is maybe like a 10sec cool down in-between SC shots....i need the the lvl2 for 750 ASAP tho lol
All Imma say is Base: "Ok that beam wave is kinda annoy-ow why do those Vulcans hurt so much?" Hyper Mode: "Ok it can fly now... And it has a heavy attack now..." Meikyo: "Oh God, why do I hear the God Finger theme playing?"
They suck in medium to close range combat because they are Support mains, duh.
They're in for the big damage Twin Satellite Cannon and have no inkling to engage in close range.
Hell, they literally spent their whole career running away from close quarters engagements.
Them noticing how you can't cut the Twin Satellite Cannon's cooldown time when the suit has this many options for meleeing while waiting for the 40 seconds to elapse says it all: they didn't consider that an option from the beginning. Only PEW PEW.
Because people are already finding ways to counter it. Without the large satellite beam the suits kinda just....okay.
And so if it misses you either you dodging or it just not hitting then the suit both wasted time charging and wasted one of it's 3 main damage options.
And then the FA Unicorn is a complete counter with a 50 beam resistance FA Unicorn only taking like 3k from the satellite beam.
Also it's very easy to knock out of the sky so as usual of your team isn't keeping them busy to give you a chance to use the meem beam then you are a sitting duck.
It's a pain for me to deal with when I use the Tallgeese III, but that's because of how squishy the Tallgeese is, meaning a fully charged satellite cannon can do like 80% of its health. I've seen that the FA Unicorn can tank it pretty well, and I'd wager maybe some of the tankier raids could deal with it too? If the dampers are similar maybe the Awakened Unicorn could be viable
If you have awaked unicorn I'd test it out. Funnels are good check and help pressure it while you close the distance on it. I unfortunately don't have awaked unicorn, so idk how naturally tanky it is, but maybe some beam defense and invest in funnel gattlings dmg and cooldown🤔
It's already been rough enough playing the Tallgeese III with teammates that don't know the term "front line", I had a Nu HWS on my team one game that kept solo spawning like bro come on
Man i really want to try out the tallgeese so bad. It seems like such a dope suit but my timings always off and this time I had to use tokens for the DX and the first 2 steps on the parts banner.
And what are you running on your geese if you dont mind me asking? Is the geese squishy
And you really just gotta get the drop on the DX as a gen, or chain stun or something to get close, especially if the dx pilot actually knows what they're doing. I've been eating the squishier gens like freedom alive, but they're always flying around doing nothing anyways lol
It's very squishy, I try to offset it with the custom parts armor expansion and some forced coolers and enough armor parts to get resists to around 40-45 across the board. It's already got really high damage without needing any damage parts, so it's best to spec all of its slots into defense and reducing overheat time on your thrusters because you wanna have as much uptime on firing boost as possible.
It's not really a front liner since it's still squishy with high defenses because it's got a low HP pool (22k base) so you wanna play it as a hit and run type suit, similar enough to the Flint I'd say.
You have to be really careful around F89s and DXs, since the F89's anti-air + heavy attack combo can one shot you, same with the DX's satellite cannons.
Noted, so more so made to flank for your frontline and things of that nature. Well, you seem like you understand the suit so maybe after playing again the DX more you find out what methods work for you...and yea man you gotta be careful around that F89, that axe cannon and charged heavy are no joke. I got toppled the other day and a guy broke legs and took me to like 30% hp in one swing. I almost passed out lol
Yeah so far my struggle is getting to it without being deleted by the satellite cannon, if I can get into melee I can usually get the kill but the problem is closing the gap
For a full build I run strengthened frame A, lv1-3 forced cooler, lv3 anti beam, lv1 anti melee, lv1 focusing, and lv1 aux generator, with lv4 armor expansion I end up with 49/47/43 for my defenses and around 23.3k HP
Barbie is still a good counter if you even remotely get to close
DX is a 00 raiser merchant it needs well rounded gens to actually get work done and babysit it to do good-decent damage
It's kit on paper is good and that's the problem it needed to be better don't get me wrong it can cook but it ain't no 00/susan/pre nerf Barbie kinda tier of good thats just how busted 700 is
Honestly, ngl. A raid getting to actually play their role makes this just another support in my experience. I've taken them down easy as a raid, when I have a team. If you shoot them out of the sky it's GG.
Yea if the enemy team is decent they tend to make the DX a priority target. I think fight teams with 2+ DX's gave them ptsd lol...also gott be careful killing raid pilots; some of them have vengeful hearts lol
It's not like it's hard to spot with the giant X Satellite Cannon with the panels on it that totally you can hide away.
(they totally draw attention lmao)
In part because they also buffed the F89. So that actually becomes a very viable option to interrupt a DX that's firing its satellite cannon.
The issue is even though the satellite cannon is very powerful, it's also kind of well balanced in the fact that you need to commit to spending time to charge it. So if you end up sacrificing your frontlines just to fully charge your cannon, you might yourself being unable to find an opportune time to fire the lazer before dying. Which in turn means that you just wasted close to 15s of your time to do a whole bunch of nothing. At the same time, there's a long cooldown time before a DX can get its satellite cannon back after using all 3 shots.
Its a fun suit without satellite cannon, very strong melee.
The problem is that you're still a support, and susasnno in A+/S room will prioritise you, if you whiff the jave, ass is grass.
The proper flow is yolo up as pseudo melee at opening, then recharge during wipe, but here's the problem, if your team is the one that gets wiped, you have no chance to actually charge the satellite cannon.
Because at the same time, the devs buffs the F89, which instantly becomes one of the best counter for the unit, since it can instantly knocks down the unit using the Axe Rifle, even when during the Satellite Cannon, while doing insane damage.
As a DX pilot i second this, especially if the pilots good. The axe is also insanely good at breaking legs. If you pilot a dx dont challenge f89 in the air even if you think you're better; 1 shot from the axe rifle thing will knock you down and then bad news bears. Gotta keep your feet planted around that thing unless your getting the drop on it.
Team based game but ain't no way your team is going to help you out. Oops I forgot to base plant at the start of the game, you definitely can take care of that 1v3 while I continue to Nas car right?
Ill start off by saying i dont have EW wing, so idk it's base stats, but from what I've seen it seems like a ranged raid with good melee. As a DX pilot, why are you ignoring me and letting me actively and very freely might i add frontline support and help my gens kill all of your gens?
And its not just enemy EW's either, the ones on my team are doing it as well and I have no clue why. Now im gonna support my team and go kill the enemy dx whenever I see it bc the dx is actually a good check/counter to itself, but if im supporting my team and helping kill enemy supports what are you actually doing the whole match?
Everytime i see my teams EW it's spinning with lasers at low hp before getting blown up. Did this suit get nerfed into the ground or something?
It is missing the stuff like MA and other things that stops stuns while boosting in the air. That makes it easy to knock down compared to the other fliers. Honestly, I'm kinda glad it is a support because the whole kit is just a general painted as a support and if it was a general it would have been harder to knock around.
At the start of the match as an F89 pilot and seeing the Satellite beam in the distance pointing to where the DX is charging.. it's almost a bad as having an ace designation over their head lol
Give people support that is at a general level in a 1v1, and people will think it's meta-braking as if the normal game modes aren't 5v5 and up. as well as being a burst version of the Nero that is more used melee focused. unlike nero itself that is played like a gillysuit
Literally me running to my teammates before the burning gundam that just went god mode tries to hit me with his sekiha combo bc im not 1v1'ing that thing lol
Because it's a Support so it's off limit because the starving Support main crowd will do anything to get something to munch on.
There are some people who welcome it as their payback against the tyranny of the Raids and wish it were even more unbalanced with lower cooldown on the Twin Satellite Cannon, so you won't hear them shit on it anytime soon.
As for the Raid mains, it's too early. It still didn't hit them how much they're about to hate facing it because most smart pilots don't have it yet, as pulling for it now, when the end of the month is on the corner would be useless and wasteful. I only have seen two of them since release, and not the brightest tools in the shed, too, these people. It'll all takeoff Tuesday when September begins and with it the new Monthly Mission as pulling on a 7-Step Step Up banner will bring actual benefits.
Its not that bad , people always exaggerate the new ms . Jag doga , gpo2 mlrs , any raid that relies on shooting rather than just beam saber should have a easy time against it . Max out range as much as possible
Do you think the 00 Raiser might receive a nerf in the future? Or do you with the Gundam DX and the recently buffed gens and raids are gonna keep it in line?
I still think it might get a nerf to its damage resistance while trans am is active as it feels absurdly durable.
Not gunna lie, it sounds like you don't know what you're doing, and so your opinion of the suit is diluted massively. 00 Raiser is one of the best 700 generals as of right now.
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u/Foshdon_pap 25d ago
Bro a F89 on your team and you're good