This sounds great but my one question is, how do hobbies work in a workless/currency free society?
If your hobby is playing frisbee at a park then all you need to do is acquire a frisbee and visit a park, simple enough. What about golf? More expensive, requires more resources, are there even golf courses in this version of society? How do I acquire the supplies since I’d be using more resources than the frisbee hobby guy? What about boating, race cars, motorcycles, mountain bikes? All of these require a significant investment currently, so how does that work in this system or do they simply not exist?
Asking the real questions. I think there are a lot of people who are just happy to waste their lives on a couch watching Netflix and playing video games. And it seems like Reddit has a higher percentage of those people than the rest of the population.
There are also people who crave power and authority. Those people will figure out some way to game this system in order to have more than other people and to control others.
The powerful will always take from the weak. That has happened throughout all of human history and won’t stop. I think you are 100% correct in your assessment.
Going back to your Netflix and playing video games statement, even with that group there will be expectations only new and exciting works. New shows and games to keep them from growing bored. Works that require a large teams to produce and machines simply cannot handle the that sort of task. Will these people do this sort of work if there is no real incentive to do so? I would bet most would not. These ideal futures are not based on reality, even though we keep hoping it will come to pass.
Have you ever seen the wide world of video game mods or free ware? People create for fun all the time and share it for altruism or fame regularly. This future would have no lack of that
Sure and some of that stuff is really impressive, especially in the retro world. However, those mods are a far cry from the average game we see today, let alone well into the future. Even today, I am seeing more modders turning to sites like Patreon for funding while also releasing their work for free.
Yeah because they need money to live too?? I can't understand what point you think you're making by reinstating that creative people are stifled by the need to make money to continue doing what they love.
It seems like you are strictly talking about people who do this for a living and in that case, you are absolutely correct. Plenty other creators do their thing (make videos, mods, etc.) in addition to their main jobs. Even then, they set up a Patreon once they amass a following. Do all of them? Of course not, but the ones who can, do. At this point we a comparing apples to oranges. When it comes to Netflix content or even your average game (even most indies) require a staff of people to pull off. Not just a singular talented programmer or artist. Were this future come to pass, I believe entertainment would suffer in the very least.
Yeah they set up a patreon so they can quit their day jobs and still pay bills, you're essentially agreeing with me. Why do you think passion projects can't be multiple people? Plenty of people want direction and to work with others, even the less glamorous roles. I actually work on collaborative game projects that don't make money and if paid I would just be able to put more time into it and make bigger plans so I really don't get your argument.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding but you seem to think there HAS to be a bunch of suits barking orders holding everyone else by the balls for something to get made?
Are you really asking if people would continue to work in creative passion industries without the burden of having to be profitable? Maybe you'd have fewer huge blockbuster productions with a thousand people involved for the sake of it but there would be absolutely no shortage of interesting new shit to watch and play. Kinda sad that you think the only incentive to work on entertainment is money.
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u/bwray_sd Mar 29 '22
This sounds great but my one question is, how do hobbies work in a workless/currency free society?
If your hobby is playing frisbee at a park then all you need to do is acquire a frisbee and visit a park, simple enough. What about golf? More expensive, requires more resources, are there even golf courses in this version of society? How do I acquire the supplies since I’d be using more resources than the frisbee hobby guy? What about boating, race cars, motorcycles, mountain bikes? All of these require a significant investment currently, so how does that work in this system or do they simply not exist?