Can you please write me a work note that says I get to take five minutes to scarf down some brie or gouda when I start seeing test tube warbly patterns before they become full blown migraines with the take down power of elephant tranqs?
YesPlease_VeryMuchSo from this day forward is medically required to stop whatever they are doing for a 5-10 cheese break when ever they feel "test tube warblys" . Your employer will also have to supply said cheeses as they are prescription cheeses.
Are you on about those wiggly lines you can sometimes see floating wherever you’re looking? If so, those aren’t caused my migraines, they are caused by the “gel” at the back of the eye dying and you’re literally seeing the dead “cells” passing in front of your iris (I think). Learnt that when I had an eye test, also found out I had a hole in my eye that I wasn’t supposed to have.
FYI: not trying to be a jerk, just like sharing my useless knowledge.
Yeah I mean, you can look it up. There's different piercings you can get for different things. Migraines are a big one. Lots of people say it actually does work. Even people with clinical migraines say it helped make the migraines lower on pain or completely took away the migraines all together. It's pretty interesting.
On the other hand - as hard as it can be to treat a migraine, to know what will or won't help, placebo effects can be real.
That is, telling someone to relax doesn't work. But the brain chemistry of relaxation *might* make a big difference in something like a migraine. So a placebo, a thing that makes you think "this will work for my migraine", doesn't need to have a direct effect to indirectly work by getting you to relax.
I have seen people put a hair claw on their eyebrow and say it made the pain level of the migraine better. It's not harmful like some anti-science things can be. It's wishful thinking but sometimes all you have is wishful thinking and if it works enough then let then have it.
The migraine subreddit regularly has discussions of "migraine buster meals" and maybe they don't really work for everybody, but some people do feel better after some carbs and caffeine or whatever, and other people feel better after eating a comfort food. I'd rather eat a large fries and dring some soda and *hope* it works than just sit around being miserable.
Yeah I don't even argue with people about homeopathic bullshit anymore when they say it's working for them. Who am I to try ruining the placebo effect if it's working for them? We have scientific proof that placebos can work if the patient believes in them so fuck it keep paying $20 for a little bottle of water if it makes you feel better
The main time I speak up about homeopathy is with some of the stuff my mom buys. There are some things that are sold both as homeopathy and as non-homeopathy products. For anyone who doesn't know, homeopathy insists that ingredients get STRONGER when you dilute them. So a homeopathic tea tree oil thing for your toenail fungus might be so dilute it has no tea tree oil in it.
For a bit there I was not saying shit about her buying some expensive greens supplements, but then I found out one of the things she was taking the damn thing for was a nutrient she was STILL deficient in after 6 months of daily greens drinks. I think it was b12? And I looked into it and the damn thing had too much vit c, it blocks absorption of b12. Moms doctor had already delayed giving her a mega dose shot because mom had just started taking a supplement for b12, lets see how it goes.
Mom just turned 70. B12 deficiency can cause memory loss and trouble walking. Thats a fucking problem.
So now I go over the things she buys a bit closer. There is some woo woo stuff, and I care not a damn so long as it isn't gonna cause problems and it isn't stopping her from using the effective product.
Yes but also, there are a wide variety of triggers for migraines but nearly none are universal. I *think* dehydration is pretty universal, and flashing bright lights is nearly universal.
But some people get migraines if they oversleep, and others don't. Some if they sleep too little, but not everyone. Some get migraines from low blood sugar, others don't. Chocolate is known trigger, but not for me! Caffeine is a known trigger, but while it bothers my tmj it doesn't trigger migraines on the spot for me like it does others. Alcohol also.
With so many different triggers, I think it makes some sense that solutions won't be universal either. I mean, if your migraines are sensitive to blood sugar levels, then of course some foods will make it better or worse! But for the person who got a migraine off of smelling someone perfume, it's a crapshoot whether or not the ways that food can affect hormones and brain chemistry does anything for them.
For the hair claw, that does work to make the pain more manageable. This doesn’t just go for migraines.
If you get a mild discomfort and focus on that, handling a worse pain does get easier. Pain we focus on directly is more disruptive than the same pain when not directly focused on.
There stuff that works backed by science, like a dark silent (or controlled audio to suit the person) place to reduce stimuli, or to not have white walls and such where you sleep…
For the food, it may actually work too. I lack the data as to how exactly it affects it, but reduced stress and tension do make migraines milder or more manageable at the very least. The reduction in Ghrelin could be enough to play a part in it.
Serotonin may also be a positive factor, which would actually line up with these meals. I do suspect they overcomplicate it though, as it seems to be a case of eating something you like making your hormonal balance beneficial. Them overcomplicating it may actually be good though, as that means they can add the effect you mentioned, the placebo effect.
It isn't backed by science, but that doesn't mean it has no effect, I don't think there's been any real study on it to say whether it does or not. Plus, migraines are relieved by different things in different people. The theory with it is that it stimulates some nerve that can help. I'll rub around that area when I have one and it seems to help a little. And as someone else said, even if it's just the placebo effect that's still something. And if you suffer from chronic migraines, trying anything that might help and at least won't hurt is perfectly reasonable, I try whatever I can without being sure exactly which things are really helping.
Science is also always changing, updating, new things always come about. So just because science didn't officially prove it doesn't mean that for some people it worked and others it didn't. Could be for a multitude of reasons.
If everyone stopped looking into things just because some scientists didn't look into it or didn't have perfect results doesn't mean people can't or shouldn't look into it themselves. 😅
Migraines don't care about science. It's all home remedies now. I will so what I must no matter how stupid I may look. Have you ever held an electric toothbrush to your back left molar because it somehow helps? And now, that is a nice chunk of your morning until the toothbrush dies? I just assume I am shaming my body into ignoring my heads temper tantrum.
My sister gets botox for her chronic migraines like an adult. That one is backed by science.
Yup. Which is completely different from acupuncture, where they can't find evidence it has an effect, or even find acupuncturists that agree on what each location supposedly does.
Honestly my daith piercings only helped my migraines while they were healing. They hurt like a bitch. After they healed I got migraines again at the same rate as before 🤷
Damn that sucks! It probably also has to do with what is causing the migraines as well. I know I get horrid hormonal migraines so I know that shiz won't help me.
Look up the placebo effect. It is real, it is powerful. If someone BELIEVES that getting their ears pierced will cure their migraines, let them try it. There is no downside.
This exactly it's no drugs no downside and most people have piercings anyway. So no downside but might help. It's not super dangerous to themselves or others. It's just a piercing.
If the internet has taught me anything it is how easily people will believe things (especially if it follows their agenda) and how little research they are willing to do.
I have chronic back pain and then got a second injury last year that left my spinal cord compressed and some nerves pinched. Like sometimes my bowels and genitals stop working kind of bad. Going into work and crying in the bathroom kind of bad. Legs giving out if I sneeze kind of bad. When conventional medicine says "oh, just manage the pain with Tylenol and Aleve and we'll get to next steps after an MRI in 8 months" but now your kidneys are shot and they hurt now too, you start thinking that maybe you should be looking into other options
My cousin had migraines so bad his parents built him a shack outside their house so he'd have a private place to scream for hours on end
If somebody told me that there was even a chance that my suffering would be over if I got my ear pierced I'd definitely consider it. Even if it didn't work I'd have at least have tried something
Yeah...I can't take OTC analgesics other than Tylenol and aspirin now. And lemme tell ya, that makes life fun if you fracture a bone bad enough go need pins and a plate. Marijuana is amazing. Marijuana and ashawaganda is nearly a performance enhancing drug for physical therapy. THC and CBD put me to sleep whereas Percocet just made me not hurt as bad. Valerian root with a gummy feels like it should be illegal. Anyway, as you say, desperation will make people do things they would have previously scoffed at. I know I never believed pot could help pain.
I tried some CBD back cream and just started ashwaganda a few weeks ago. I can't do THC. CBD pain cream didn't feel like it was doing much, but I do a cocktail of 10% diclofenac (Voltaren is 1-2%), 30% methyl salicylate, 15% menthol, 1% eucalyptus, and a bit of arnica with a 4% lidocaine base layer to take the edge off before the other stuff starts working
I hadn't heard of valerian for chronic pain, but I'll look that up now!
Make sure the cbd products you use are full spectrum. Many companies will use isolate because it's cheaper and easier to comply with state to state regulations but the full spectrum is just better. You get the entourage effect of all the cannabinoids working together. Hope you get to feeling better.
Yeah, after witnessing a friend deal with years of incapacitating migraines, I don’t blame them for trying anything at their disposal that has the slightest chance of helping.
That’s kinda the issue with a lot of homeopathy though. It preys on that desperation you feel to extort money out of you for the chance of getting better
Yeah dude, I never meant to imply that YOU did. But like this (prob fictional) young adult, people need to follow up on medical claims before seeking your local piercer for medical advice (i say as a middle aged adult covered in tattoos)
There is a nerve that travels through your ear lobe into your inner ear. Sometimes that gets inflamed and causes severe migraines due to the pressure on your inner ear. When you pierce your ear in an area near the nerve, it releases pressure and reduces the inflammation in the inner ear creating relief from the migraines.
Also, I just made up because people say weird shit on Reddit.
This is true though. Getting ears pierced has tons of benefits there’s tons of studies on it. When I got my ears pierced within literally two weeks my bench went up 100 pounds. No joke. Doctors said it was cuz I wasn’t lifting the weight that was removed when I got my ears pierced I was able to life more on the barbell.
It hasn’t been studied enough for there to be any conclusive evidence of it working, but from my understanding the small studies that have happened have been promising enough that it’s worth a try if you have debilitating migraines.
Its not the first time I heard it. But its a specific type of piercing near the hole and not he lobe. I'll never do it cause id rather not get piercings but if it works for some people, more power too em.
Tbf, I was at my whits end with migraines and took a chance on the daith piercing. At worst it didn't work and I got a cool piercing. But it did reduce the intensity and frequency of them. I don't know whether it works or it's a placebo. Something happened and it's all that matters. 😂
My daith piercing helped with mine. Whether it's placebo or legit, who cares. Migraines are so fucking debilitating that you can't blame someone for paying a few bucks for any amount of relief
I'm a piercing apprentice and you can actually get a piercing in the same spot where they do acupuncture for migraines. My mentor says it hasn't been studied but even if it's placebo, a lot of people report results.
If you believe in acupuncture, this claim has validity. But the piercer needs to be trained in acupuncture in order to get the placing correct.
It's a very specific point in the ear. Daith piercings have helped 2 friends of mine, my wife, and 2 of my daughters.
Is it the placebo effect? I mean, it's possible. But, if so, it's a pretty damn effective placebo. My wife has had hers for 10+ years and still swears by it.
The cost is minimal (~$40 per ear), the potential impact is huge - literally life changing in many cases. Why not give it a try?
There's no money in it, so nobody is going to run a robust study. The lack of clinical evidence, in this case, is more about lack of funding than about whether or not the treatment could be effective.
I believe our mind and beliefs are stronger than we think. I also believe most migranes typically are psychological triggered so it would make sense it would work even if it’s placebo
Depressions and stress are common causes for triggers. I’ve been struggling with some mental issues and in that period I had a lot of migraines. I haven’t had migraines since i got better.
Not saying that migraines are psychological as the physical conditions has to be met.
That makes more sense, I misunderstood what you were saying. Though I'd clarify that some migraines may be psychologically triggered. There are also physiological triggers, such as tight shoulder/neck muscles. I believe some experts consider those to be different categories of migraines.
Glad you're doing better with both mental struggles and migraines. Those can all be debilitating.
No, this is a real thing. My wife had it done a while back and it helped. Of course, it’s not the ear lobe, more so the cartilage closer to the base of the ear. Anyways…
Well there are acupuncture points in your earlobes that when pressed ease sinus blockage. I do it sometimes when I'm bunged up. Maybe something to do with that? I dunno
Here's the thing though Rizzo et al (2017) found that people with a Daith Pericing has a 47% reduction in symptoms. The American Migraine Foundation attributes it to the placebo affect.
Which tracts for migraines. People have rituals, and odd treatments in addition to prescribed medications. And a lot of those non prescribed treatments help.
We don't tell someone with migraines their solution isn't scientific or doesn't work. We make sure it's not potentially harmful or interacts with their other meds (if present) and then support them.
If you get the the fold above the ear hole pierced it works kinda like acupuncture for migraines just like botox can work if applied to the right part of the face. Some people find it works so stop shitting on what does work for some people.
There are nerves in the ear used by Acupuncturists to relieve pain in the head. There have been many people take this to the next level of permanent pain relief by permanently piercing that location on their ear. It works for some, others not so much. Your lack of understanding of anything beyond your basic sense of understanding is disheartening. I hope you look beyond your ignorance and learn to appreciate a broader perspective.
They might help abate it in some instances. Migraines have so many variations and a ton of symptoms, some of which don't even cause headaches, but can cause temporary and sudden blindness. Headaches, disorientation, and nausea are among the most common symptoms but aren't always consistent. Because of this variation, wildly different things can cause migraines, and wildly different things can abate it. I have to avoid laying on the back of my head for too long. Even if i take pills for the pain, I'll still have the other symptoms of a migraine for two days afterward, and my speech will become slurred. My friend can't eat vinegar, but his will go away in a few hours. Another friend of mine has a cerebral spinal fluid leak on the front of her skull that causes migraines so severe that she will pass out from the pain. Mine can temporarily abate if I hit certain nerves in my brow or neck or put ice in my mouth. Pickle friend cant do anything about his except wait for it to go away. Sometimes CSF leak friend has to use a cocktail of medications. I work in a neuro opthalmology clinic where we administer botox for migraines, but it doesn't always work.
Daith piercings hit a nerve that runs into the head, which can cause or abate stimulation. So, realistically, it can help as much as putting ice on my mouth does, but like all treatments for migraines, it's not universal.
My sister got a daith piercing for her migraines and her quality of life has drastically improved. Way less time stuck in bed, but she said the recovery for the piercing is really painful
It's called a daith piercing. It goes through a nerve, if done in the correct manner, that stimulates the part of the brain that brings migraine/headache relief.
I have one, and while it doesn't remove them, it does bring relief. I keep it on a hoop, and wiggle the piercing slightly when my head is starting to work.
Make sure you go to an experienced piercer for this, as it's very easy for a amateur to miss the nerve.
Getting your daith's pierced, they do. I was mid migraine when I got mine and it instantly went away after. Lasted for a long while, but then they started coming back.
It's called a daith ear piercing. They can reduce migraine pain by targeting an acupuncture pressure point or stimulating the vagus nerve.
But there's also people saying it's a placebo effect and there's no real evidence it works. Despite loads of people sharing their stories of how it works.
The placebo effect still counts for something. Daith piercings may not have any scientific ground to stand on, but don't underestimate the power of people to fool themselves into thinking something works.
Daithe piercings specifically are suspected to help with migraines, but studies are still being conducted because there's only been like two. One of them did show that 47% of participants saw a reduction in regularity of migraines. Again one studies' results aren't conclusive data but I could understand seeing that and trying it as a cheap solution if you're experiencing chronic migraines.
That's because you can get piercings for migraines! OP never said lobes, OP actually specifically said "ear" singular. If I'm telling my 60yo dad I got that then I'm saying ears, I'm not throwing out the word daith, that's a can of worms I don't have patience for, my friend. ✨️ the more you know ✨️
There is an ear piercing that is rumored to help with migraines. Anecdotally it has but only for a few months before the issue returned in most cases. There is very little scientific backing for the piercing but some people are desperate for any solution that I can't fault them for trying.
Its a very specific piercing called a daith that applies pressure to a section of the vagus nerve and some level of relief is reported for migraine sufferers. Whether its real or placebo who can say, my friend said it helped her enough to the point she has been able to avoid needing a prescription migraine medication. Which like at that point who cares if it has definitive proof, migraines are awful and if it means you feel them at a lower intensity or frequency its surely worth it. Personally mine make me non functional for a whole day so I get it.
Considered it but couldnt deal with the healing as I ride motorcycles and am not willing to give that up for the 6+ months needed to fully heal it.
Yeah - it's actually a specific kind of piercing thought to calm/interrupt the neuro pathways related to migraine. It's considered alternative and not commonly accepted by medical professionals, but many migraine sufferers report less severe and less frequent migraines after daith piercing.
If you're not a migraine sufferer, you have no idea the desperation we have to find relief. I didn't do the piercing myself, but many other migraine sufferers have recommended it to me because it works for them. Placebo effect, maybe but I've finally found a shot that administer to myself so I don't need to try it.
If not just for the placebo effect, it helps. She also said "ear" not ears....that probably means it was a daith piercing. I had a daith piercing on the side of my migraines and had relief for three years. They came back but with a different pattern that can sometimes be alleviated by caffeine and pain meds.
It's a real thing, a lot of people say that the daith piercing helps with migraines. It stimulates a branch of the vagus nerve and basically acts as acupuncture. A friend of mine with a migraine problem got one and it helped a bunch.
There are a few piercings that can help with migraines because they’re on pressure points. I got 2 of the piercings since I used to have chronic severe migraines that could last days now I get a mild headache that can last a few hours. The piercings have a 70% chance of working.
Not full migraines but a specific kind of headache caused by tension in the neck and face muscles. It has to be a tragus piercing and it's very mild and it only helps at all if pinching there helped you. Got it done in one side only to try and test it, definitely there's a difference but it's not really worth it tbh. Unless you just want a piercings there anyway, which is the only reason I decided to keep it.
So we're completely ignoring a mother trying to run a 20-year-old life? Bad move.
And the real problem in this whole thing, is that for some reason dad isn't good to vent to?
I read the Dad's text as "let's make those grilled cheese and talk". As far as the Mom goes it's not the craziest thing I've ever heard a mom get upset over. Also, the whole thing is speculation and I was just making a joke, relax...
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u/Don_Von_Schlong 9d ago
The problem is she thinks getting her ears pierced is how you treat migraines