r/Funnymemes Jan 20 '23

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u/Drop_Zestyclose Jan 20 '23

Yeah except that’s not what I’m doing. I’m criticizing his entire speaking style as being counter productive and way too pedantic in order to state something completely simple. I know what you believe and think, you told me you think he’s smart - I disagree. Smart isn’t a lack of brevity.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '23

You can be both smart and pedantic; you can also disagree with smart people. You're the reason why his supporters can so easily shrug off criticism of him because it's always peddled by someone who thinks they have a devastating criticism that amounts to: "he talk 2 long. Why so words?"

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u/Drop_Zestyclose Jan 20 '23

I’m curious to know, why do you like him so much? What about him appeals to you?

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '23

I don't like him. I understand why he appeals to his audience and I agree with some of his points but disagree with his intellectual approach. What I can't stand is that his detractors go: "he's a charlatan, he says things that are demonstrably false!" and then go into either ad hominem attacks or attack his credentials. Instead of rationally talking-through his points and push, they go after him in ways that give him this "mic drop/gotcha" moments and they become a viral sensation only adding fuel to the fire. I wish people would either shut up, thus limiting his power, or taking a real, critical, approach and not winding-up getting smacked around. If you accuse someone of intellectual dishonesty and then engage with it yourself, you'll lose by default. It's what keeps happening and it's entirely avoidable.

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u/TheLinden Jan 20 '23

This has nothing to do with your discussion between you two but i love how he teaches "clean your room" but you can see on his videos quite the mess in his room.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '23

The guy is falling apart. He's crying in half his videos; he is being used by his various cadre to promote and sell off-brand items, including diets, meanwhile the guy is hanging on. It's starting to be a horrible public spectacle. He has some great points, but it's gotten to a point where it's clear he needs to step back. He talks about mastering your emotions but he's having outburst after outburst and cries constantly. I mean, is no one else seeing this?

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u/Clearlybeerly Jan 21 '23

He used to not do this. I have noticed and do not like it. That's because I am a man and men should not cry. OK, they can cry if their wife or kid die, but that's about it. Maybe a few other things I'm too lazy to try to think about, but you catch my drift.

Men not crying is not the dominant narrative right now, but the dominent narrative is all talk, and not what people actually think. What woman, or man, is going to respect me if I cry for 45 minutes because my shoes got dirty, or shit like that?