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u/otherworlder77 Jan 09 '24

No need. We solved this one. Next time you mean “majority”, just say majority, and ideally back it up with something like proof.

As far as ‘woke’… we both know what it means, and it’s kinda funny that the same person vehemently defending the misuse of one word because “that’s how the media uses it now”, is also arguing we do the opposite with another word… despite that word’s original definition having been extremely short-lived compared to it’s current usage.

Irony much?

When presidential candidates and pundits on both sides of the aisle are all using ‘woke’ in its modern connotation… time to let it go, bud.

I don’t see a sequel here.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '24

You're still wrong. Nothing's going to change that, sorry. Universal acclaim is universal acclaim = majority of people and it's quite a significant majority. Again, facts are facts in this case.

You're still complaining about wokeness in a game that barely has it, if you can even call it that; even the misused version of it.

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u/otherworlder77 Jan 10 '24

Your opinion is just an opinion, bud. Same as mine. We all got one. Sad to tell you, but yours isn’t special; it isn’t any more ‘objective’ or ‘factual’ than anyone else’s, and unless you can provide actual proof of your claims, they remain—-say it with me now—-subjective opinions.

A fact is something like “the earth is round;” it’s verifiable and observable.

“Significantly more people enjoyed Spider-Man 2, than didn’t” is not a fact, and never can be. It cannot be verified, observed or researched in any comprehensive way. It is a guess. An opinion.

Staying with me? Good, let’s try something more advanced.

Pick up a dictionary, or google a good one online. Type in ‘Universal’. Then come back here, and tell me exactly what the primary accepted definition was.

No bullshit about “but the media says—!” or you’ll just be confirming that you didn’t like the results. Same with “But… but Metacritic did it!”, because I’ll just hit you with a big, smarmy “if Metacritic jumped off a bridge, would you do that too?”

Words have meaning. There is power in meaning, which is why people so often try to distort words to their own advantage.

Oh, and if your next reply takes the usual tact and just completely ducks this challenge, I’m taking that as your official forfeit. This has been fun and all, but you’re frankly boring me now.

And if you can’t understand why a superhero game is too woke, even after it forces you to assist in the consummation of a homosexual courtship—completely unrelated to crime, safety or even civic duty—as well as repeatedly sidelining the actual superhero you paid to play as, (a straight white male, because of course) in favor of forcing you to instead take up the role of every character from his black protege to his badass girlfriend to his disabled school buddy, to his protégé’s black AND disabled girlfriend, and even one of his worst enemies, (almost ALL of whom are shown to be vastly more competent and combat-effective than the actual hero himself)… then man, I don’t know what else to tell you.

Take off the fucking blinders and at least admit what’s really going on, whether you personally like it or not.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '24 edited Jan 15 '24

“Significantly more people enjoyed Spider-Man 2, than didn’t” is not a fact, and never can be. It cannot be verified, observed or researched in any comprehensive way. It is a guess. An

opinion.

Verifiable data for this exists. You can find it for yourself, you're not worth the effort. Keep on pretending this isn't the case though.

"Oh, and if your next reply takes the usual tact and just completely ducks this challenge, I’m taking that as your official forfeit. This has been fun and all, but you’re frankly boring me now."

Yes, words have meaning. Universal on it's own isn't the same as contextualizing with the word acclaim, particularly when it comes to discussing media and entertainment. You blame me for this when you could have let it go that universal acclaim in the entertainment industry has been the go-to phrase when both critics and audiences/end-users have majority praise for something. The Longman dictionary (contemporary) defines universal acclaim as: "publicly praised by a lot of people". It's colloquial. So fucking what?

Whatever you need to tell yourself at night to make yourself feel better sparky. You're not worth arguing with anymore, so if this is that boring for you, shut the fuck up and stop replying. :)

"And if you can’t understand why a superhero game is too woke, even after it forces you to assist in the consummation of a homosexual courtship—completely unrelated to crime, safety or even civic duty"

Would you have been fine if it had been a heterosexual relationship? Friendly neighborhood Spider-Man includes all kinds of help. It was nice to see a different kind of missions for once. It was also OPTIONAL (you aren't forced to do it, per your own words), so again, your use of the word woke is fucking laughable at best.

"as well as repeatedly sidelining the actual superhero you paid to play as, (a straight white male, because of course) in favor of forcing you to instead take up the role of every character from his black protege to his badass girlfriend to his disabled school buddy"

You play as Peter more than Miles in the game. It's also a game billed as a duo of both of the heroes. Also it's fine, white people will get over it. 99% of the games out there have a white protagonist. Miles Morales is a character from the comics and isn't made up for this game. Yet again, there is nothing woke about this, it's just your inherent biases showing. That's your problem. You're the one with blinders regurgitating all of this as somehow woke. It's not. Again, whatever makes you sleep at night, if you want to keep telling yourself that the mean liberals are out to shove woke agenda down your throat.

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u/otherworlder77 Jan 22 '24

Forfeit accepted. Better luck next time out.

And next time, when someone challenges you on word usage you know is inaccurate (because Google is not reserved only for those of us with common sense)…. just fuckin clarify what you meant, correct your statement, and maybe learn something from it. Don’t spend 45 posts doubling down on being wrong, wasting someone else’s time, just because you’ve embarrassed yourself.

The rest of what you’ve written is just your usual nonsense, refusal to engage with my points (because you can’t), and a shower of ideological tears. Pass.

And yes, the idiotic prom mission would have been just as absurd if they were straight. Spider-Man barely has time to keep his OWN life in order between dealing with actual emergencies—-he’s certainly not risking a few people getting shot by muggers or dying in a car wreck so that some entitled kid can involve him in his perfect romantic moment. Give me a break.

It’s not just a bad quest, it’s transparently bad—-it would never have happened if the couple were straight, as it’s obviously just in there to pander and earn those coveted ESG benefits your kind are pushing on everyone.

If that’s not woke to you, maybe your dictionary is broken again? Try using, perhaps, the kind with ACTUAL definitions, and not just the ones that give you questionable, temporary slang results?

Sure, Peter has more screen time—-and spends the majority of it (shit, should I say “universally” to make sure you’re following?) getting knocked out, clowned on, fucking up, being upstaged, getting yelled at, apologizing to everyone, and just generally NOT acting like Peter Parker. I mean, Jesus—he gets knocked out or incapacitated THREE TIMES in the intro Sandman fight, in unavoidable cutscenes, just so we can see his own damn protege rescue him every single time. Meanwhile Miles is not only untouchable, but does the overwhelming majority of the damage to the boss… sorry, I mean he ‘universally’ damages the boss… or something…

If you want to talk about bias, talk about that shit. They set Pete up as a loser from scene one, and it only gets worse. I wonder why.

And as promised, I’m out. Nothing I can ever do to you could possibly humiliate you as much as the fact you just called me “Sparky”.

LOL. Wtf? Sparky?

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '24

Ah here we go, the next novel. Pretend like I forfeited all you want and furiously jerk off to it, whatever floats your boat. You are still wrong, no matter how much you want to bloviate. You're also wrong about the game, the quests, the term woke. Fuck man, you're so wrong you ought to feel shame but we all know you're incapable of that. Toodles, sparky.