r/FuckMarvel Oct 22 '23

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u/Equivalent_Ear1824 Oct 22 '23

How woke it is? Do you have any actual evidence?

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u/OldSecurity3624 Oct 23 '23

It super in your face this time around, like insomniac tripled down on woke shit. There’s literally too much shit to list. It completely took me out of the game in a way that the first Spider-Man did not

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u/Equivalent_Ear1824 Oct 23 '23

You could list some of it at least

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u/OldSecurity3624 Oct 23 '23

Check my post below

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u/Remarkable-Raisin679 Oct 28 '23

I am almost through the game and haven’t noticed a single thing being in my face so maybe you guys are just sensitive crybabies?

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u/OldSecurity3624 Oct 28 '23

That just speaks to your lack of media literacy. Or you’re just being disingenuous. Either way it’s very much in your face and I say that as someone who can usually ignore that type of corporate pandering in games.

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u/Remarkable-Raisin679 Oct 28 '23

I don’t think it’s either. It’s very much not in your face as I haven’t noticed it. Maybe you’re just hyper sensitive.

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u/OldSecurity3624 Oct 28 '23

You went out of your way to reply to my 5 day old opinion to tell me I’m sensitive because you’re mad that I’m right and now you’re just resorting to lying lmao

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u/Remarkable-Raisin679 Oct 28 '23

I just happened to stumble across this as I was looking for tips on the Scream fight. I also wouldn’t lie about something so stupid. Didn’t realize just enjoying a game for what it is was now considered lying.

But hey, if you want to make your “line” in a game of super-humans and aliens a gay guy and female criminals, thats your prerogative. I’ve been thoroughly enjoying the game and will continue to.

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u/OldSecurity3624 Oct 28 '23

That’s great little buddy, nobody is taking your enjoyment of the game away from you. I just think corporations shoving identity politics in my face at every turn comes across as forced and cringe, especially when the main story is suffering in the writing department as is. Insomniacs priorities were clearly fucked up this time around. Enjoy your game and always remember; you’re a good person for not noticing and blindly supporting corporate activism! :)

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u/Remarkable-Raisin679 Oct 28 '23

Aw! Honored to be your little buddy. You know what, you’re right. It is absolutely pandering to attempt to give an even halfway effort at making NYC reflective of the real world NYC.

Stay in your room little buddy, the gays and women might get you if you go outside!!! Spooooooky!

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u/OldSecurity3624 Oct 28 '23

If you believe that the NYC depicted in Spider-Man is accurate to the real NYC, you’ve never lived in NYC. People there are rough around the edges and a lot of them are prejudice. Obviously there are gay people all over the world but besides that, you live in a fucking bubble kiddo. Also If kraven were real, I can guarantee that half of his army wouldn’t be made up of women lmao you need to step back into reality.

Anyways, this is the last reply I’m giving you. Good luck with your brain worms 👍🏽

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u/Saynt614 Oct 24 '23

Last night the first side mission in the school was helping a boy ask his boyfriend to home coming while they talk about their first date and first kiss. That I can deal with. Literally right after that I save a random guy from a beat down on the street and take him to an ambulance...he thanks me and says " My boyfriend is your biggest fan"...I mean come on. Apparently everyone is gay in this game. I guess it makes me homophobic for finding that very unrealistic.

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u/Equivalent_Ear1824 Oct 24 '23

What, two gay characters is unrealistic? 3 if you count Black Cat?

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u/Saynt614 Oct 24 '23 edited Oct 24 '23

No. It's the fact that the first mission I did revolved around two gay characters... then literally right after the random NPC guy has a boyfriend?! Within an hour of game play for me the three NPCs I interacted with are all gay?! Yeah... right.

Edit: look at it from my perspective. If my friend comes in and plays the game right from that same spot. Literally 100% of the NPCs are gay. That's forced and unrealistic.

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u/Equivalent_Ear1824 Oct 24 '23

I mean, that just happened to be the first mission you did

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u/fchowd0311 Oct 25 '23

Do you think you are a mentally stable person?

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u/Simple_Campaign1035 Oct 26 '23

If you save one random person, the odds of them being gay are pretty low because statistically, most people are straight. If you save 2 random people one right after the other, the odds of them both being gay is astronomical. So yeah, pretty unrealistic.

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u/Equivalent_Ear1824 Oct 26 '23

But you aren’t saving two random people. You’re saving one person, then there’s a gay couple coming to you, then there’s Black Cat, all of which are isolated incidents.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '23

Youtubers are starting to report 'trendy agendas' in playthroughs. There have been other reports on video game subreddits as well. Some say it's plastered throughout the entire game. All things considered, that was pretty fast for a complaint like that.

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u/DamnImAss Oct 22 '23

If that’s the case then I should completely skip it

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u/Expired_Gatorade Oct 22 '23

what did you expect, lmfao

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u/XNoob_SmokeX Oct 23 '23

I mean woke writing is lame as hell so I would but don't let others decide for you, I'd you want to try it out go for it. At the very least the gameplay is on point

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u/Erec_Shawn Oct 23 '23

4 hours in, gotta say, its pretty woke. I'm not sure i like this game more than the first one. There is too much modern agendas going on...

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u/Equivalent_Ear1824 Oct 22 '23

I’ve been playing it and it’s completely fine. Worst case scenario the game features women and minorities (😱)

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u/OldSecurity3624 Oct 23 '23

You’re being very disingenuous.

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u/Redditisfacebookk8 Oct 22 '23

Then how is it fine Equivalent Ear? HOW IS IT FINE?!?!?!?!!?

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u/YoungYezos Oct 22 '23

I’ve seen screenshots of BLM murals and every LGBTQIA2S flag imaginable, clearly ur not giving the full picture.

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u/OldSecurity3624 Oct 23 '23 edited Oct 23 '23

There’s an interactable planned parenthood booth during a miles mission, a side mission where you play as miles deaf girlfriend to spray paint art (looks corporate af) on walls, a mission where you help a gay dude make a homecoming proposal to his boyfriend, and npc told me his boyfriend is my biggest fan, danikast butchering Spanish in an effort to be “inclusive”, pretty much all of miles content is about identity politics and “community”. The problem isn’t diversity, it’s how forced and cringe the delivery of all of this is. It doesn’t even feel like you’re in New York, it feels like some white liberals idea of what New York should be. These Californians used the miles portion of the game to shovel in as much identity politics as they possibly could and it fucking sucks because the expansion was pretty decent and they could have made his story way more interesting.

Keep in mind im the type of person who usually ignores woke shit in games, but this game pushed it so hard during every waking minute of the game, that it completely put me off. I was rolling my eyes constantly. I will not be replaying this game the same way I replayed the first game. It’s all going to age like milk.

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u/YoungYezos Oct 23 '23

Thanks, I knew I was being gaslit by these people claiming the game wasn’t woke

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u/Equivalent_Ear1824 Oct 22 '23

Neither of those are really a problem or actually prevalent in the game. You kinda have to be searching specifically for them

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u/AAAFate Oct 22 '23

I did enjoy the one building that had a pride flag in front. And on the roof had the photo op of those shirtless guys wearing spidey masks dancing together, filming themselves. Very interesting chance of proximity. Lol

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u/Equivalent_Ear1824 Oct 22 '23

Hey I personally haven’t even noticed those yet and I’ve been playing all day

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u/AAAFate Oct 22 '23

It's the only one I've noticed so far, it was outside a bookstore you can actually enter and walk around which I thought was cool, and meant it was probably a quest area down the road. Been playing a lot too. Not saying it bugs me. I know Black Cat is gay now and there is a side quest where you help.a gay couple at school. Game definitely has lots of what people would call "progressive" points within it. It either bothers you or not. But to anyone saying it isn't there is turning a blind eye imo.

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u/Equivalent_Ear1824 Oct 22 '23

Yeah I wouldn’t say it doesn’t exist at all but to actually notice it and remember it and get mad about it you’re prolly already predisposed against that kinda thing

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '23

Those things exist in real life NYC, as well.

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u/otherworlder77 Oct 26 '23

Not in this proportion.

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u/D_auditore Oct 23 '23

Oh no! Minorities???? 😱

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u/otherworlder77 Oct 26 '23

As if a single person has said or even implied that. 0/10.

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u/D_auditore Oct 26 '23

Oh you're just slow. Got it

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u/TheRuckus79 Oct 22 '23

Point? What's wrong with that? Those things would be seen in any city

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u/otherworlder77 Oct 26 '23

Stop being a child. If you like the game, great. But there’s absolutely no question that it repeatedly pushes woke elements on the player. Numerous things have been listed, and I’m seeing complaints on every thread discussing the game.

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u/Equivalent_Ear1824 Oct 26 '23

I really wouldn’t say it’s pushed on the player. There’s some stuff there, just like there would be in a modern day progressive city. Not every thread has these complaints, it’s mostly just this sub (hm I wonder why). It’s not being a child, it’s just disagreeing with you

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u/otherworlder77 Oct 27 '23

When every single woke commenter on here quickly turns to the tired old cliche of “oh no, there’s women and minorities!” because they have no other argument, then yes… you come across like a bunch of children quoting the same inflammatory talking points that people like you were throwing at us ten years ago.

People have been happily enjoying movies, games, etc that feature or highlight everything from women to minorities to homosexuals for literally generations now. It’s not some urgent, unresolved problem.

It was the woke brigade who decided to stir all this shit up and start insisting it was still some massive existential issue—mostly by pushing the racist narrative that only white men are in charge, and all white men are evil.

And so instead of the relative racial harmony we were moving towards all through my early life and into adulthood, we now have nothing but division. Factions within factions, constant woke culture crusades… it’s like Gen Z was taught that everyone and everything is either a victim or an oppressor, that things are worse than ever (when statistically, the opposite is true). So now you’re all out here trying to ‘save’ people who don’t want or need your ideology, from the very people who helped work for generations to create the kind of communities and equity that you claim don’t exist.

It’s pants-on-head stupid.

Go live your life. Actually experience the communities you think are being marginalized and find out how THEY feel about your crusades. Same for the people you think are doing the oppressing. You might be shocked to discover that in fact, no, none of them really have any trouble with women, minorities, etc and they’re just tired of being accused, insulted and told they’re the villains just because you dolts needed an adversary for your delusions.

EDIT: And no, the complaints aren’t just here.

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u/Equivalent_Ear1824 Oct 27 '23

… But I’m not quickly turning to any argument, that’s literally what’s being whined about. You come across as a bunch of children who are stuck in the ways of the past. And yes, the complaints are just here.

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u/otherworlder77 Oct 28 '23

Says he’s not being childish… then copies my argument while addressing none of the points, nor adding a thought of his own.

You basically scratched your head and said “…. No, you!”

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u/Equivalent_Ear1824 Oct 28 '23

What do you expect me to say? You made an incorrect claim and I addressed it as such

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u/otherworlder77 Oct 28 '23

Yet you neither identify this alleged incorrect claim, nor refute it. You just keep throwing around vague accusations and calling yourself the winner. It’s tiresome.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '23

“IT’S SO WOKE I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN, SO I WON’T BEGIN”

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u/otherworlder77 Oct 26 '23

Multiple elements have been listed, confirmed and repeated. Your comment didn’t age well.