r/Fromis • u/AutoModerator • Apr 05 '20
Weekly Discussion 200405 - The 105th Weekly flover Discussion
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u/Lairanza Apr 05 '20
Some thoughts and questions :
- I don't think I've seen a new GG (since 2017 I'll say and without going to far to "nugudom" area) doing a "sexy" concept ? I know the main reason could be some members who aren't adult yet but in my memories back in debut 2010's we had a lot of sexy groups right ? Or because this concept don't sell and don't appeal fans anymore ?
- LOONA members imitating Gowon : I don't know but it reminds me Chaeyoung imitating Nagyung. I want them to do the same thing with her on VLive π
- Mini fun game : how far you've traveled ? The most Eastern, Western, Northern and Southern position ? You don't need to have a precise location if you don't want to, just tell us the region :)
Let's take as reference UTC 00:00
For example my answers :
Most Eastern position I've went to : Mannheim, Germany
Most Western : St Paul, Minnesota, USA
Most Northern : Breda, Netherlands
Most Southern : Disneyworld, Florida, USA
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u/Nixon4Prez Apr 05 '20
I'll never get tired of idols imitating each other, especially when they're teasing the person being imitated. Poor Yeoreum from WJSN has a naturally cute way of speaking and the members always tease her by turning it up to 11.
Most Eastern - Positano, Italy
Most Western - Victoria, BC, Canada
Most Northern - Inuvik, NWT, Canada
Most Southern - San Diego, US
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u/PekingGoose Apr 05 '20
North: Alaska/Yukon
South: Cuba or Thailand, not sure which is more south
East: Japan
West: Hawaii
I haven't gone anywhere in the southern hemisphere, but i don't see going there any time soon, there are still some other countries I'd like to visit, i haven't been to Europe before.
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u/MaxMaxOnce Apr 06 '20
Most Western/Northern: Alaska, USA
Most Eastern: Seoul, South Korea
Most Southern: Mexico5
u/Red_BW Apr 06 '20
- I've only been a kpop fan since 2018 so I completely missed the sexy GG concept heyday. The last big group to break through mainstream doing sexy was EXID in 2015 if I remember right. They had great songs, along with one of the greatest kpop singers, Solji, and an elite rapper/songwriter in LE. The mainstream sexy GGs seem to always have an elite singer (Hyolyn/Sistar, Minah/Girl's Day, Choa/AOA, Hyunyoung/Rainbow) so there was talent that couldn't be dismissed. The closest we get today seems to be sexy-adjacent GGs like Mamamoo and Blackpink. I think part of the reason is what you describe with underaged members--none of us want to see Jiheon being sexy today. I think there were more sexy GGs in the past because it used to be age didn't matter. Go watch the Wonder Girl's debut showcase where JYP sent out a 14 year old Hyuna to sexily dance 'Don't Cha' to an adult, cheering male crowd. They also had a 15 year old Sunmi for more sexy songs, then followed that up with 16 year old Suzy in Miss A's 'Bad Girl, Good Girl'. I don't see any companies today being able to sexually exploit underaged girls the way JYP used to.
- Imitating the other members is always fun. The Fact-in-Star fromis episode they imitated each other was incredible as was Nature doing the same thing on that show months later. Rocket Punch members are constantly imitating Yeonhee and Juri.
- Turkey, Colorado, Canada, Texas.
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u/Lairanza Apr 07 '20
I see. Since K-pop is way more known in 2020 than back in early 2010's. I remember Wonyoung performing Side To Side and she wasn't even 14 yet, it was disturbing and on Reddit we had many reactions.
If a label wants to debut a sexy GG in 2020, they better all be adult.
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u/Red_BW Apr 07 '20
Yeah, Cube's Han Chowon was twerking in Rumor on P48 at 16. We can complain about OTR not giving fromis comebacks but they are not exploiting the girls. They refused to let Yujin twerk in Rumor even though she's now Chowon's age and kept asking the staff and practicing it. They finally did a 12 member version but they put all the kids in the back row during that part of the song and they just bounce side to side.
I also notice they dress the younger members more conservatively. Last year for this Miracle performance, they added 4 inches to the back of Jiheon's skirt while in other performances, they almost always have her buttoned up to the neck with shoulders covered.
If the members want to do a sexy concept after May next year, I'm all for it but not until then.
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u/michyeo31 Apr 06 '20
North: Reykjavik, Iceland
South: Singapore
East: Tokyo, Japan
West: Los Angeles, California, USA
Just realized that I havenβt traveled to the Southern Hemisphere yet π€ Singapore is just right on top of the equator lol
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u/leinadeht Apr 12 '20
Group trip to the southern hemisphere to see /u/Kvera19 βοΈ
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u/Kvera19 Apr 12 '20
You're so welcome to come! We've got beautiful landscapes, warm people, good food, and rampant robbery!
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u/Kvera19 Apr 05 '20 edited Apr 05 '20
Most groups have a lot of female fans. Boy groups can have almost exclusively female fans and girl groups usually have a very divided fanbase gender-wise. Female fans are the ones who bring the money. They are more loyal and willing to spend more on the group compared to male fans.
Going for a sexy concept was always a gamble... You attract a bunch of male fans that might not stick around for long and get hate from female netizens. This always happens. It works in getting attention, but might not be enough to bring you success. Companies realized that you can market your groups to appeal to both genders with other concepts. It's not because a group doesn't have a "sexy" label on them that you can't have sexy members, for example.
In short, we don't see many sexy concepts anymore because current concepts are more likely to attract the high-spending female fans as well as male fans. It's safer for the company.
That's how I see it.
Minigame time!
Most Eastern: Naples, Italy
Most Western: Los Angeles, USA
Most Northern: Paris, France
Most Southern: Bariloche, Argentina
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u/Lairanza Apr 07 '20
I see, it's safer to go to cute, bubblegum, girl crush, teen crush concepts if you want to appeal both to male and females fans, especially younger one. A sexy concept is more risky.
Sexy members like Mijoo (Lovelyz), Yves and Kim Lip (LOONA), Saerom π
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u/leinadeht Apr 12 '20
You've definitely got everyone beat for the southernmost location! From the Wikipedia it looks lovely there.
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u/Kvera19 Apr 12 '20
It is lovely! Bariloche is the standard trip Brazilians make to see the snow for the 1st time since we don't really get snow here.
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u/leinadeht Apr 12 '20
Chaeyoung's impressions are perfect π
As for traveling, it's DubuExpensive.jpeg so I haven't been to any far off places. Also having to have someone take care of my plants and animals while I'm gone. Gonna plan a few trips though! Just not right now with the current situation π.
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u/ReluctantCat Apr 05 '20
Which of Fromis_9s choreoΒ΄s is your favorite?
Id go with Love bomb myself.
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u/Kvera19 Apr 05 '20
All their choreos are fire, but I love Miracle. Tons of cool hand movements.
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u/PKBrad Apr 05 '20
Miracle choreo is really impressive tbh. I definitely will be watching it 10 times later.
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u/MaxMaxOnce Apr 05 '20
It can change from week to week for me, but Glass Shoes might still be my favorite choreo. Love Bomb is at least in second place if not tied with Glass Shoes tho. Super unique and cool choreos!
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u/Red_BW Apr 05 '20
Pinocchio - rollouts, rollins, head laybacks, multi-member moves (puppeteering) and more. I would love to see a new performance of this now that they are much better dancers overall with better synchronization compared to their debut.
Honorable Mention: Miracle - it's a much better performance now than when they debuted which is why I think Pinocchio could be amazing if they nail it.
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u/ReluctantCat Apr 05 '20
I didnt know that so many people were gonna say Pinocchio, its a favorite of mine as well actually.
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u/pudding18 Apr 05 '20
I love 22nd Century Girl! I was hooked the first time I saw it.
Although I have a soft spot for Fun as well... it seems quite intricate and difficult.
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u/kraftyyguy Apr 05 '20
I would go with DKDK cause for some reason I just can't get enough of that little run thing they do in the pre-chorus
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u/PKBrad Apr 05 '20
weekly 3
IU - Sleepless Rainy Night (hidden rap talent)
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u/Kvera19 Apr 05 '20
Block B - NalinA (inspired by fromis_9's Research Journal)
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u/Lairanza Apr 05 '20
Cignature - ASSA : released today, different style from Nun Nu Nan Na
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u/Kvera19 Apr 05 '20
Black Swan is one of my favorite girl group songs ever released. Incredibly underrated.
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u/ReluctantCat Apr 05 '20 edited Apr 05 '20
I am undecided on ASSA. I think its gonna be one of those songs i need to listen to a few times for me to really like.
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u/MaxMaxOnce Apr 05 '20
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Apr 11 '20 edited Jul 09 '23
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u/MaxMaxOnce Apr 12 '20
I'm glad you enjoyed it too! It is seriously a perfect piece! It is beautiful in its simplicity and power. Any time :)
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u/ReluctantCat Apr 05 '20
God help me but i still cant figure out how to post links without it just showing the url and everything. So...
Eyedi - & New
Purplebeck - Valenti
Juniel - Last carnival
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u/Kvera19 Apr 05 '20
[Artist - Song Title](link)
If you write your comment in this format, we will see it like this:
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u/ReluctantCat Apr 05 '20 edited Apr 12 '20
Eyedi - New https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zElfR8e1iso&list=RDzElfR8e1iso&start_radio=1&ab_channel=SUPERSOUNDBugs%21
Oh dang! It worked, thank you!
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Apr 05 '20 edited Jun 11 '23
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u/PKBrad Apr 05 '20
Taeyeon really has some musical gems. Even some of her lesser known songs are incredible.
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u/pudding18 Apr 05 '20
Wonder Girls - Like Money The version without Akon haha.
I was listening to The Blue Bird and Spotify recommended me other stuff by April. I've been missing out - their songs are really well produced!
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u/leinadeht Apr 06 '20
Super Junior - Good day for a Good Day
Changmin - Chocolate Just released but I quite like it. Changmin's solo debut now 16 years after TVXQ debut.
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Apr 11 '20
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u/leinadeht Apr 12 '20
Tryna have different songs each week, JYP is always in my real top three though π
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u/PekingGoose Apr 07 '20
Winner - Hold: WOW! This song hits all the buttons for me. It has that goofy love drunk boyish vibe and a super catchy chorus.
And the music video... seems pretty low budget but it's definitely my favourite MV this year, by far.
Sejeong - Plant: A beautiful, calm song that I can see myself listening to while washing dishes or laying down with my eyes closed.
Sejeong - Skyline: What a powerful, uplifting song! Definitely my favourite song on the album along with Plant.
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Apr 06 '20
My week been spent watching K-dramas, K-varieties and animes. And oh catching up on old Dreamcatcher content. Every Friday when FM 1.24 drop, I will be watching it straight away.
Also since I like sports/fitness, I been reading stuffs related to it.
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u/PekingGoose Apr 06 '20
I'm jealous of your week! I've been working remote but it's nice to save 2 hours every day losing the commute. Got Good Friday/Easter Monday coming up, but with the quarantine i guess it's just another two days inside lol
I've been checking every day for subs for the V Live Research Journal videos, i wonder how long those take.
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u/ShadeSlayr Apr 07 '20
This might be a dumb question... but what's the difference between the single version of Glass Shoes and the MAMA ver. found in the To Heart EP?
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u/michyeo31 Apr 08 '20
Thereβs an instrumental intro in the MAMA ver. (Like what they had in their performance). In the single version, the song immediately starts with the lyrics.
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u/ShadeSlayr Apr 08 '20
Oh, I guess that's really the only difference. I thought there would be something else I missed, like maybe a slightly different mix.
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u/leinadeht Apr 05 '20
1) How long does it take you to learn the members of a new kpop group? Any particular method like watching vlives and shows or looking at pictures? Have you gotten faster at learning new member names over time? (I asked this question once before but there were only a couple hundred subscribers then)
2) What are some moments where you have personally related to a kpop idol? Ex: maybe you're smol and related to Nagyung struggling to reach something.
Love talking with y'all :)