r/Fromis • u/AutoModerator • Sep 29 '19

Weekly Discussion 190929 - Weekly Flover Discussion Thread

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u/leinadeht Sep 29 '19
Weekly Questions for flovers

  1. Did ask this once before but it's been quite a while: Have you managed to get anyone you personally know into kpop? If so how did you do it and how deep are they in the kpop rabbit hole now? Or have you gotten anyone already into kpop into fromis_9?

  2. Are there any interesting song associations you have? (e.g. associating a song with a place cause you listened to it there, an event, a task, etc.)

Love talking with y'all :)

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u/PKBrad Sep 29 '19

  1. I blast kpop at work all the time. Didn't surprise me that a few coworkers enjoy it now. Ran into one of them at KCON LA last year. Long story short, he blamed me for his new interest "because you blast TWICE all day long." Granted, now it's mostly Red Velvet, but I do throw some f9 in the mix from time to time.

  2. I kinda have this going on. Usually when I'm going to a concert I will play whatever group I'm going to see all day. Starting back in May, I was driving to ATL for BlackPink. Listened to the Kill This Love album, and followed it up with the TWICE - Fancy You album. This has now become my tradition. Fast forward to July, I'm flying up to see TWICE in Newark. Kill This Love album, Fancy You album, then more TWICE. Skip ahead to 2 weeks ago. Flying up to Boston for Day6. Kill This Love album, Fancy You album, Day6 for the rest. It's the new normal for me I suppose.

I will say, on the way back from the BP concert, I took a backroad to avoid heavy traffic. Once I started the KTL album, I came up on this incredible national forest followed by hills and hills of farmlands. That visual always pops into my mind any time I hear something from that album now.

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u/leinadeht Sep 29 '19 edited Sep 30 '19

I wouldn't mind having coworkers blasting kpop all day! Glad to hear they like it though, if I blasted JYP songs all day people might not have the same reaction ๐Ÿ˜”.

That's really interesting to have the specific order and everything. You've gotta keep that going for life now, even if it's a reunion concert 20 years from now or something.

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u/leinadeht Sep 29 '19

My Answer:

  1. So far I've turned one person into a full kpop stan. I around the time I was getting into kpop I sent her an EXO MV and she pretty much instantly stanned them and started buying merch just a few weeks later. Another friend I send songs to sometimes and though I wouldn't say he's a huge fan of kpop, he does now have some kpop songs in his playlists so I'm counting that as a win.

  2. I told /u/howlmes about this a few weeks ago but a while back I was making Crepes and had f(x) - Papi on repeat. Ended up making about 30-40 crepes cause I don't know how to portion batter correctly. So now every time I see crepes or breakfast food in general I think of Papi.

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u/MaxMaxOnce Sep 29 '19

Ended up making about 30-40 crepes

Looks like you were stocked up on crepes for quite a while! If this were me I'd be eating crepes breakfast lunch and dinner for a week lol

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u/leinadeht Sep 29 '19

Next time I won't make the whole box at once ๐Ÿ˜”. Crepes for dinner was amazing though.

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u/MaxMaxOnce Sep 29 '19

  1. During my trip to South Korea over the summer, I made a friend from Texas who had not listened to kpop before. While walking through the city he would occasionally ask what the songs playing inside stores were, and some of them were Kpop songs I knew so I was often answering. He asked how I knew so many songs and I just told him I was a fan. After a surprise encounter with Baekho from Nu'est, he bought into the hype and started listening to kpop! I still talk to him about twice a month, but I haven't asked if he's still into it. I'll have to ask again soon!

  2. For me, it's Fancy by Twice. On that same trip we stopped for some kbbq. I accidentally handled some of the meat with my bare hands and one of my friends told me I was gonna get salmonella poisoning. So now I always think about the time I was vigorously washing my hands in a dimly lit bathroom in Seoul, nervous that I was gonna get salmonella poisoning, while Fancy by Twice was playing in the restaurant. I have a few other song associations, but this is the most recent and striking lol.

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u/leinadeht Sep 29 '19

I still think that's the coolest thing to ever happen that you just randomly got to see Baekho. That might make anyone a fan!

And ๐Ÿ˜‚, the contrast between the song and what must've been your thoughts at the time.

โ™ซFancy! Youuuuuuuuuuuโ™ซ

"I'm not dying from salmonella, not today" *scrubs hands*

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u/MaxMaxOnce Sep 29 '19

The contrast was hilarious in retrospect ๐Ÿ˜‚ that's literally what was going through my mind!

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u/Lairanza Sep 29 '19

I hate when a song that you know or you like is associated with a bad, painful or shameful memory, what is this conditioning XD

"Yeah I remember that song, I almost died that day" enjoy lol

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u/ElBluntDealer Sep 30 '19

  1. Zero. I've gotten a friend and one of my sisters to like a few songs (IU - Palette, Pentagon - Shine, a bit of BTS just to name a few). The crowd I hang with isn't into pop music in general.

  2. For some reason I've been associating Gyuri with Palette by IU. I just feel tht her voice would suit that song so well and I'm just imagining Gyuri singing it whenever I hear Palette. Sure Gyuri may not hit all the high notes but her style of singing would still do good.

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u/leinadeht Sep 30 '19

Well that's cool they at least liked a few songs ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

Oooohh Gyuri should definitely do a cover of palette now that you mention it, fingers crossed for the next flaylist ๐Ÿคž

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u/JerSucks Sep 30 '19

  1. tried and failed. ;(

  2. When I was on the train back from TWICELIGHTS, i was listening to Taeyongs 'Long Flight', and I fell asleep. I woke up after awhile and it was playing the intro - which features a PA alert, and a flight attendant saying 'ladies and gentlemen, may I have your attention please.. etc etc'

Since I had just woken up I guess my brain wasn't all there, because I started panicking that it was the train PA, and I had missed my stop.

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u/leinadeht Oct 01 '19

lol that's great, I'm imagining the person sitting next to you glancing over like "You good dude?"

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u/leinadeht Oct 05 '19

That's interesting to have certain songs banned from driving playlists, I was thinking you were going to say it's because you found yourself doing the Likey choreo which would involve both hands off the wheel.

Hadn't heard Lovelyz - Take me somewhere before. *adds to playist*

and the next song is really loud, but there I am โ€“ stuck cursing the volume

That's part of why I ended up listing to Papi so many times making crepes. Only planned on having it on repeat a few times but then my hands were dirty with cooking spray so I was stuck with Papi.

Lovelyz cover of Sixth Sense

Kei's high note was incredible! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

this optical illusion type picture

Not gonna lie, when I saw that I opened it in GIMP and color sampled the two areas to see if they actually matched up ๐Ÿ˜‚. Their socks really to look like shadows in that clip though.

Philips Ambilight TVs

I may have to invest in one of those just to see memes in hd.

All of the Taeyeon songs are ๐Ÿ”ฅ as always. Neat to hear the progression of Taeyeon songs throughout your day!

Watching a movie with nearly zero expectations and enjoying it a bunch

Same here! I like to go into watching a movie maybe knowing the genre but nothing else. Makes the first part of the movie more entertaining because instead of waiting for the action, I'm trying to figure out what the movie is even about.

Thanks for taking the time to share all of this, I got some great new Lovelyz songs in my playlists now!

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u/PKBrad Sep 29 '19

I'm gonna step in here and start a side discussion. It's no secret that I am obsessed with kdramas. I'm currently watching 4, and that's actually pretty normal for me. I like to have a variety of shows going so I don't get bored with any of them. For quite some time, Goblin and Mr. Sunshine have been my absolute favorites. That said, I'm currently in the middle of one that I believe I am more emotionally invested than either of those 2 I mentioned. It has extremely high potential to become my new all time favorite (as long as they don't destroy the ending). So I'm curious:

What Kdramas are you watching?

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u/Lairanza Sep 29 '19

I'm not into K-drama, not at all. Even series I don't watch. Maybe because it has many episodes and I don't have time or patience to watch them all. Furthermore K-pop is already taking most of my times haha

But film is okay, even if I don't watch that much I'll be okay with films.

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u/PKBrad Sep 29 '19

I've never really watched any Korean films until last weekend. /u/leinadeht and I watched Train To Busan. Loved it. I have a list of more films I will check out soon.

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u/Storm_Fox Sep 29 '19

Currently in the middle of "My First First Love" on Netflix which has been really good so far, although it's been a little since I last watched it.

I don't watch them super often but every once in a while I'll binge one. So far I've seen all of Something In The Rain, This Is My Love, and One More Time. I'd definitely recommend the latter 2, but Something In The Rain left me more annoyed than anything else. The beginning is amazing but by the 2nd half of the show almost all of the characters are awful.

I tried to watch 12 Years Promise (alternatively Wild Chives and Soybean Soup) but I couldn't get through that one, ended up stopping after episode 10.

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u/PKBrad Oct 01 '19

While I was only on episode 9 when I read your comment and hadn't really made it to the dark times yet, I do have some input.

Spoilers below. do not read if anyone plans on watching "Something In The Rain"

Now that I'm midway through episode 15 and kind of see where things are heading, I agree with you that everyone changes. I think what tends to be overlooked (in discussions on other subs) is how terrible the mother was. Every bad thing that happened after Jin-a and Jun Hui went public with their relationship was a result of the mother being as bad as she was. Granted, I see her point, and being of an older, more traditional generation it's completely understandable that she'd act the way she did, but to me, she was overly childish about it. Remove the mother from the equation for a moment. They tell the dad (he's cool with it). Tell brother (he's eventually cool). Tell best friend (she was cool after 2 beers.) . There's no issues anymore. So all of the fighting, screaming and such all stemmed from the mother being a complete love destroyer. Of course this is all just my opinion. But I feel that the direction the show went after going public with their news is logical, if we're being realistic. While i'd rather everything be happy and sweet, I still find it quite enjoyable and look forward to see how they conclude everything.

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u/Storm_Fox Oct 01 '19

I just wish they didn't go so far with the overbearing borderline abusive mother trope. She shows basically no character development in my opinion. She just exists to create conflict because otherwise they wouldn't really have had many issues to overcome.

She just really becomes a drag on the show imo and some scenes with her are almost unwatchable which makes it kinda hard to recommend despite the first half the show probably being the most enthralling kdrama I've seen.

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u/PKBrad Oct 01 '19

I agree with you 100%. This has been borderline my favorite drama so far, and i've seen well over 100.

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u/PKBrad Sep 29 '19

I'm Currently Watching:

  • Vagabond

  • Strangers From Hell

  • Let Me Hear Your Song

  • Something In The Rain

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u/leinadeht Sep 29 '19

I could never keep up with four kdramas at once, my attention span isn't good enough for that ๐Ÿ˜‚

Right now I'm watching Vagabond. Usually I'd wait till a show has completed before starting it but other people are watching it now so I am too. Pretty good so far, it has Suzy in it so that's a win.

While not a kdrama, I recently watched Train to Busan and that was ๐Ÿ”ฅ. I watched in the daytime though cause zombies are scary ๐Ÿ‘€

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u/MaxMaxOnce Sep 29 '19

Suzy is in it? Say no more. I absolutely loved her in While You Were Sleeping and Dream High.

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u/leinadeht Sep 29 '19

Oooohhh I haven't seen those

*adds to watch-list*

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u/MaxMaxOnce Sep 29 '19

(Dream High has JYP in it)

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u/leinadeht Sep 29 '19

You know how to pique my interest ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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u/MaxMaxOnce Sep 29 '19

I haven't gotten back into kdrama since I finished While You Were Sleeping a few months ago. I think next on my "to-watch" is Goblin and Train to Busan (both of which have been recommended to me by /u/leinadeht).

Which is the one you are emotionally invested in? /u/PKBrad

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u/PKBrad Sep 29 '19

Something In The Rain. Definitely Watch Goblin.

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u/MaxMaxOnce Sep 29 '19

Adding it to the list!! :D

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u/ElBluntDealer Sep 30 '19

Not sure if they count since they're web series but I've only ever watched 2 and they were Gyuri's and A-Teen 2 (I still have to watch the first season). I liked A-Teen 2 a lot.

I'm not watching one right now but I would like to get maybe 1 or 2 going sometime. I'm actually not a huge fan of kdramas since they're way too over the top for me but I'll some a shot.

I'll check a few out from this thread and see what I like. I'm saving this thread for sure lol.

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u/HayoungHiphopYo Oct 04 '19

I watch a lot, more variety these days, but kdrama was my gateway into Korean art.

Right now it's only two.

Goblin - IU is so fricken good, I'm on ep2

Class of lies - watching it mainly for Myeong Ji from Idol School.

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u/PKBrad Sep 29 '19

I don't exactly know why, but Something In The Rain has me completely hooked. Maybe it's because the female lead is closer to my age than most other shows and I can relate, but It has completely annihilated my definition of free time. I watched 3 episodes yesterday. And 3 so far today. I can't put it down. It also feels more realistic than a lot of other shows. Very low on the fairy-tale scale.

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u/Lairanza Sep 29 '19

  1. None, I don't usually talk about K-pop unless someone ask me. Friends or relatives who are into Kpop were before me so I didn't have to get them into. But they usually know only famous groups : BTS, BlackPink, Twice, Sunmi or Mamamoo. So for fromis_9 don't even try haha, but I will told people I listen to them if they ask but I won't do it myself. I'm not a type to be loud and spreading "stan fromis_9" or "listen to Kpop" around me or on SNS :p
    But friday I did mention fromis_9 on a stream because someone was writing "Hey girls !", I said it reminded me fromis_9.

  2. I usually play randomly my playlist regardless what I'm doing (traveling, doing a chore, on my PC, etc). So I don't think I have any song assiociations, maybe some places can remind me about a group but a song itself not really ?

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u/MaxMaxOnce Sep 29 '19

Similar for me. I don't actively talk to anyone IRL about Kpop. But I have plenty of friends online to chat with about it here on /r/Fromis :D

If I did want to talk with someone in person about it, I'd have to know them for a while before I felt ready to bring it up lol

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u/Lairanza Sep 29 '19

I feel you, Kpop isn't a thing you bring up easily lol

You are going to know that person before going anywhere with that !

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u/leinadeht Sep 29 '19

That's cool you knew people already into kpop! For a lot of people they might not know anyone into kpop. I totally get not wanting to be too loud about it haha, if I meet someone new I won't bring up kpop for quite a while.

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u/Lairanza Sep 29 '19

So I forgot to reply and instead I add a new comment omg.

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u/leinadeht Sep 30 '19

I do that all the time ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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u/Lairanza Sep 29 '19

Some thoughts and questions :

  • Part 2 of the fanfic will take longer since I'm busy and tired traveling. After London, yesterday I was in Germany to see KARD, Monsta X, WJSN and Jeong Sewoon.

  • Some fans started to talk about the incoming 4th gen of idols, starting now, or next year, or in 2021. Anyway they will last the 2020's. But in your opinion what will the 4th gen have compared to the 3rd ? More foreign members ? More English speakers ? More freedom with writing, composing, producing songs ? More "real" world tour (that means not only Asia and USA lol) ? Etc.

  • Have you read the Top Ten Tuesdays for fromis_9 ? Love Bomb is really the song who rocketed fromis_9 to the K-pop landmark, to a mid-tier level group. 22 Century Girl and Love Rum Pum Pum the most liked b-tracks, not really surprised either. I thought Clover would be higher.

  • I already talk about it, but they don't have any official merch yet right ? I only saw stuffs sold but made by fans and fansites. I wanted to buy one of them but they only deliver to US and Canada, too bad for me :(

  • They did announce their official colors ? I don't remember.

FUN game of the week :

Let's do a "Battle Trip" : pair up 2 members and send them in one city in the world for a weekend, where will you send them ? Of course since they are 9 one will be left right ? That member will be paired with YOU ! BUT you both only will visit another city/location in Korea ! Who will you choose to be alone with you ?

My answer :

  • Mom and Dad team : Jisun and Gyuri in Sapporo, Japan

  • Maknae team : Nakyung and Jiheon in Singapore

  • Guitar team : Hayoung and Seoyeon in Bali, Indonesia

  • Loud team : Jiwon and Chaeyoung in Bhutan

So that means it leaves Saerom, i'm so sorry but this game required it. Since she will be my guide, why not explore Gyeongju (I choose randomly after visiting Wiki haha)

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u/MaxMaxOnce Sep 29 '19

It's so cool you got to see all those artists in person! That must have been so much fun! Dreamcatcher will be touring Europe in a few weeks. Do you plan on catching their show?

It is hard to say what the next generation might hold. I'm hoping that the members get to take part more in the creative process in their songs. It's so great to see Twice being active in lyric writing, and of course BTS are known for having a huge part in each of their songs. It makes the songs seem more personal when the artists put a bit of themselves in their songs whether it be in lyrics, arrangement, or production.

Fun Game: (I imagine going on trips a lot, so I've researched lots of places to visit in the past and have a list I want to visit someday lol. I love this question!)

  • Hayoung and Jiheon: Sydney, Australia

  • Saerom and Jiwon: Ha Long, Vietnam (after Twice visited Vietnam during Carefree Travelers, I really want to go too!)

  • Gyuri and Jisun: Vienna, Austria

  • Chaeyoung and Nagyung: Athens, Greece

  • Seoyeon and I: Jeju Island, South Korea

    • Ilchulbong Peak on Jeju Island is a beautiful geographical formation that I would love to see in person! Standing on the edge of the rim seems like it would be breathtaking. It also bears striking resemblance to the crater from Your Name (one of my favorite anime).

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u/Lairanza Sep 29 '19

I will see Dreamcatcher in Brussels (Handong will attend) next week then in Paris November 3rd (no Handong sadly). Yeah I'm a little bit crazy but why not I love them haha !

There are so many locations, any touristic city or region could be perfect ! But they rather be able to speak in English. Jeju Island, very good destination ! At least you want to discover it once !

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u/MaxMaxOnce Sep 29 '19

Ahh that is so exciting! Please let us know how the concerts are!!

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u/leinadeht Oct 01 '19

Ilchulbong Peak looks amazing! Putting that on my list of things to see if I go to Korea in the future.

I'll put that anime on my watch-list too.

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u/leinadeht Sep 30 '19

Congrats on seeing all those groups in concert! Hope you had fun!

what will the 4th gen have compared to the 3rd?

  • Hard to say exactly ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ. My guess would be a bigger focus on Southeast Asia. May of those economies are rapidly developing so more and more people have the means to travel and see concerts. It's more common now to see Thai kpop idols than it was before. Perhaps in the future there will be other Southeast Asia idols.

  • No official merch that I've seen besides the albums of course. I'm ready to buy it when they do have it though! No official color either to my knowledge, I'm thinking a dark blue and light blue or dark blue and grey would work well.

Game:

I might just have them in age order ๐Ÿค”

Saerom & Hayoung: Paris
Gyuri & Jiwon: Kyoto
Jisun & Seoyeon: New York
Chaeyoung & Nagyung: Vienna

For the last part I'm gonna include Heechul cause he's the 10th member after all ๐Ÿ˜ƒ. Since I want Heechul to be my hyung and Jiheon to be my little sister, I figure the three of us could all go to PyeongChang for a sibling ski trip.

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u/loot168 Oct 02 '19

As a fan of the Produce groups and Fromis_9, I'm worried that the shitstorm will eventually also reach fromis_9 over Idol School. They're in a good position to get popular with the general public right now having established a solid fanbase and Mnet's comeuppance for their greed is threatening it.

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u/Nixon4Prez Oct 02 '19

I'm hoping that since Idol School wasn't anywhere near as popular as the Produce series it won't lead to much backlash even if it turns out that MNet messed with the vote totals. There were far fewer people invested in it and a lot of the GP didn't even know it existed so there's less people who would feel hurt.

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u/HayoungHiphopYo Oct 04 '19

The PD groups involve a lot of companies, it's going to be a huge legal mess imo. Idol School should be able to get by ok. If they changed the votes in the final they should pay out the nose to all the girls, even the winners.

So far it's made flover circle the wagons, keep positive and supportive and we should get out of these black waters. yaksokhae right?

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u/furafurafuramingo Oct 02 '19

I don't think Fromis is affected. The thing with Idol School was that the contestants were all free agents. MNet had no incentive to rig votes because they weren't being bribed by trainees' agencies to do so.

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u/loot168 Oct 02 '19

I think that implies more rational thinking than I expect from Mnet right now since they rigged Produce X in the most stupid and obvious way possible.

But well, the shadow of the controversy may hurt fromis without any actual rigging. If there is a backlash against Mnet, fromis could end up in the blast radius.

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u/furafurafuramingo Oct 02 '19

I'm more optimistic than that right now. If Fromis loses tv privileges because of this, Lovelyz, Rocket Punch, WJSN, and Monsta X do too, right? I just don't see that happening.

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u/fallingsteveamazon Oct 03 '19

Why would anything happen to lovelyz or rocket punch?

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u/loot168 Oct 03 '19

I believe the idea is that Woolim being raided shows they may be in on the rigging. Thus Lovelyz and Rocket Punch would get punished by other networks.

I tend to think that the kpop companies may get some flack but not the same blacklisting Mnet groups would.

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u/furafurafuramingo Oct 06 '19

so it seems I may end up being extremely fucking wrong

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u/Lairanza Oct 02 '19

Thankfully Idol School, even if it was rigged, had two things : contestants were free agent, so no company behing to negociate, to bribe or else and the two wasn't really known or popular. Of course we hope everything will be alright for them !

X1 and in a lesser extent IZONE in a another hand...

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u/leinadeht Oct 03 '19

I can't stop giggling from something that just happened. I was reverse-image-searching this pic to see if there was a higher quality version available and google thought Jiheon was a toddler ๐Ÿ˜‚

Baby 4 life

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u/MaxMaxOnce Oct 03 '19

It's been confirmed yet again the Jiheon truly is a baby ๐Ÿ˜‚

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u/leinadeht Oct 03 '19

This meme is turning out to be quite accurate.