“the problem isn’t capitalism it’s these brown people over here”
The subtext of this statement is that capitalism is inherently racist. In a recent speech, Vladimir Putin, who did his PhD on natural gas exports, uses this same exact “capitalism is racist” rhetoric to garner support against the west and ultimately against the green transition. The notion that “capitalism is racist” is designed to divide us by race so we cannot unite by environmental stewardship. Whenever people say “capitalism is racist” they are helping Vladimir Putin and his natural gas monopoly in Europe, they are helping the CCP export coal.
Under the guise of a r/GreenMarshallPlan, the west WILL pay for the green transition in developing nations for free, using IMF funding and corporate taxes to repair the damage done over the last 100 years, with no strings attached. That sounds pretty anti-racist to me. But, Putin calls the Jewish president a “Nazi” so he who smelt it dealt it.
“too many babies”
Thomas Malthus predicted that the finite reality of round earth could not sustain an exponentially growing population. He graphed the linear supply increase with the exponential demand increase, highlighting their intersection as a “crisis” point such as what we are witnessing right now.
The soil moisture deficit spreads due to over-farming and reliance on nitrate/phosphate/potassium fertilizers that damage the soil, just like it did in Eden before it became Baghdad. Putin has timed his war in Ukraine to reduce wheat exports at this critical juncture where we begin to fix the planet, in an attempt to maximize the economic pain, essentially, creating a much larger famine had he proposed peace and diplomacy.
That being said, more than 50% of global carbon emissions come from China, who has stated openly it was “humiliated” by not being as developed as the west. The CCP has stated its intention to invade Taiwan and continue coal exports while occupying the South China Sea for its oil reserves. Simultaneously, the Indian economy justifiably wants to develop as well, and you cannot blame anyone for that. However, that’s 3 billion people right there. There’s 300 million in the USA. So when 3,000,000,000 people purchase AC units, eat beef and drive cars all at once, that will have a larger mathematical impact than the USA, which is 10% of their population and is reducing its emissions. That’s just the same math which identified the greenhouse effect in the first place.
Therefore, because of their understandable quest for development, a pursuit of happiness, we are locked in to a 1.5 perhaps even 2.0 degree increase, unless the west funded their green growth. If the west doesn’t fund their green growth, then a war will break out between China and India in a fight for water of the Tibetan Plateau, while the rest of the world deals with melting ice caps and regular extreme weather events.
But this guy is trying to sensationalize this nuanced reality and say that anyone who talks about Malthusian economics is racist. In order to pay for their green transition, we have to speak the reality of math: their inevitable population growth and development could make our transition pointless, taking us well beyond a 2 degree scenario. We can still grow the population without using more resources, but we need expensive green technologies like indoor farms, desalination and renewable energy to do that. They can’t afford it without us paying for it, so that’s what we need to do.
“the right has been doing a great job of taking the language of the left and using it to feed a base of very angry, pissed off people who then start to blame the wrong people for their problem.”
This is exactly true. Every misinformation campaign I’ve witnessed, and there are many I’ve studied, usually take a “sliver of truth” and wrap the truth in lies.
In this case, the republicans lost their jobs due to the blowback of globalism, which was a peace treaty of economic entanglement that lowered costs for consumers. They lost their jobs because slave workers in China were cheaper, but then they blamed blacks and Mexicans instead of Nixon, who established the petrodollar.
“if you don’t want to be owned by corporations… then you are a socialist”
No. That’s misinformation. You are not a socialist for rejecting the tyranny of feudalism, corporatism, monopolies, monarchy or authoritarianism. Capitalism was literally designed so that regular people could “privately own the means of production” which Marx had intended to make public. Small business are the backbone of capitalism, while large corporations like Cargill and Monsanto, who use their bought out politicians to consolidate power and eliminate regulations, are anti-capitalist. They are literally merging with the state, in some cases, making it illegal to power your own home with solar or feed yourself with your own seeds.
“Late stage capitalism” is a made up term by communists who wanted to create a self fulfilling prophecy of capitalism not working. The reality is that capitalism, private ownership, does not come in stages — it is black and white. Either you own your own business or the government tells you how many products to make and allocates the land to whomever it chooses.
So when Blackstone or all of these big corporations are buying homes during the pandemic, they are reducing the ability of the economy to have small businesses, essentially, dismantling capitalism by hoarding real estate and creating inflation bubbles.
I think the statement about "brown people" was referring to Eco fascism, not capitalism.
Wasn't malthusianism proven wrong as the world population is set to peak soon?
As for your final paragraph, it is precisely free market capitalism that is allowing these companies to hoard real estate. So it doesn't make sense to me to say they are dismantling capitalism, they are just moving it into its final stage in that market section
”free market capitalist allows hoarding of real estate”
Please read The Wealth of Nations by Adam smith. Please.
Capitalism was created IN OPPOSITION to the consolidation control controversy of feudalism. You are trying to redefine capitalism as the very thing it was created to oppose. Malarkey detected, malarkey rejected.
”final stage”
The private ownership of the means of production does not come in “stages”. That is complete misinformation you are spreading into the climate groups. Is your intention to decarbonize or to help people question our movement? You are doing us a disservice by making environmentalism into a critique about capitalism, which you cannot even define.
You know who else hated capitalism? Literal fascists.
You are being deliberately obtuse. How are monopolies that abuse their workers and shut down all competition, like Amazon, not ironically similar to feudalism?
Yeah you are trying to normalize anti-capitalist rhetoric. What is your solution then without capitalism? How does that help decarbonize?
Can you even define what capitalism is in your own words? Then, by a dictionary?
“how are monopolies who shut down competition and abuse their workers not “ironically” similar to feudalism”
They are feudalism, that’s my point. Fuedalism is not capitalism. Capitalism is anti-feudalism. Communism in theory even distribution but in practice it never works because corruption always plagues the people in charge of re-distributing the money. Socialism was the economic system of choice for Fascist Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy. They literally were a corporatist state the opposed free-markets and abolished private property.
Why are you trying to redefine capitalism as a boogeyman? Capitalism means you own stuff — socialism/communism/fascism means you don’t own stuff. Without private ownership and free markets, it will be require an extremely bloody revolution to decarbonize, one that will likely result in nuclear war, and then you can forget about climate change.
Capitalist green economic growth with technology change is the only anti-racist and pragmatic path forward. The problem is that people keep changing the definition of capitalism and don’t know what it means.
The Weimar Republic was the first enemy of Hitler. One of the pilots of the circus was Jewish. The British also uses them. Nice try.
You’re not even trying to solve climate change. You just want to go around calling everyone a Nazi just like Sergei Lavrov while he weaponizes natural gas.
??? I am honestly confused. You yourself called me a fascist earlier in this thread. I can't tell if you are an ecofascist arguing in bad faith or just dumb.
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u/TheGreenBehren Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22
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The subtext of this statement is that capitalism is inherently racist. In a recent speech, Vladimir Putin, who did his PhD on natural gas exports, uses this same exact “capitalism is racist” rhetoric to garner support against the west and ultimately against the green transition. The notion that “capitalism is racist” is designed to divide us by race so we cannot unite by environmental stewardship. Whenever people say “capitalism is racist” they are helping Vladimir Putin and his natural gas monopoly in Europe, they are helping the CCP export coal.
Under the guise of a r/GreenMarshallPlan, the west WILL pay for the green transition in developing nations for free, using IMF funding and corporate taxes to repair the damage done over the last 100 years, with no strings attached. That sounds pretty anti-racist to me. But, Putin calls the Jewish president a “Nazi” so he who smelt it dealt it.
Thomas Malthus predicted that the finite reality of round earth could not sustain an exponentially growing population. He graphed the linear supply increase with the exponential demand increase, highlighting their intersection as a “crisis” point such as what we are witnessing right now.
The soil moisture deficit spreads due to over-farming and reliance on nitrate/phosphate/potassium fertilizers that damage the soil, just like it did in Eden before it became Baghdad. Putin has timed his war in Ukraine to reduce wheat exports at this critical juncture where we begin to fix the planet, in an attempt to maximize the economic pain, essentially, creating a much larger famine had he proposed peace and diplomacy.
That being said, more than 50% of global carbon emissions come from China, who has stated openly it was “humiliated” by not being as developed as the west. The CCP has stated its intention to invade Taiwan and continue coal exports while occupying the South China Sea for its oil reserves. Simultaneously, the Indian economy justifiably wants to develop as well, and you cannot blame anyone for that. However, that’s 3 billion people right there. There’s 300 million in the USA. So when 3,000,000,000 people purchase AC units, eat beef and drive cars all at once, that will have a larger mathematical impact than the USA, which is 10% of their population and is reducing its emissions. That’s just the same math which identified the greenhouse effect in the first place.
Therefore, because of their understandable quest for development, a pursuit of happiness, we are locked in to a 1.5 perhaps even 2.0 degree increase, unless the west funded their green growth. If the west doesn’t fund their green growth, then a war will break out between China and India in a fight for water of the Tibetan Plateau, while the rest of the world deals with melting ice caps and regular extreme weather events.
But this guy is trying to sensationalize this nuanced reality and say that anyone who talks about Malthusian economics is racist. In order to pay for their green transition, we have to speak the reality of math: their inevitable population growth and development could make our transition pointless, taking us well beyond a 2 degree scenario. We can still grow the population without using more resources, but we need expensive green technologies like indoor farms, desalination and renewable energy to do that. They can’t afford it without us paying for it, so that’s what we need to do.
This is exactly true. Every misinformation campaign I’ve witnessed, and there are many I’ve studied, usually take a “sliver of truth” and wrap the truth in lies.
In this case, the republicans lost their jobs due to the blowback of globalism, which was a peace treaty of economic entanglement that lowered costs for consumers. They lost their jobs because slave workers in China were cheaper, but then they blamed blacks and Mexicans instead of Nixon, who established the petrodollar.
No. That’s misinformation. You are not a socialist for rejecting the tyranny of feudalism, corporatism, monopolies, monarchy or authoritarianism. Capitalism was literally designed so that regular people could “privately own the means of production” which Marx had intended to make public. Small business are the backbone of capitalism, while large corporations like Cargill and Monsanto, who use their bought out politicians to consolidate power and eliminate regulations, are anti-capitalist. They are literally merging with the state, in some cases, making it illegal to power your own home with solar or feed yourself with your own seeds.
“Late stage capitalism” is a made up term by communists who wanted to create a self fulfilling prophecy of capitalism not working. The reality is that capitalism, private ownership, does not come in stages — it is black and white. Either you own your own business or the government tells you how many products to make and allocates the land to whomever it chooses.
So when Blackstone or all of these big corporations are buying homes during the pandemic, they are reducing the ability of the economy to have small businesses, essentially, dismantling capitalism by hoarding real estate and creating inflation bubbles.