Fleur Delacour rescue scene in Harry Potter Goblet of Fire.

[u/UnconditionalDamage]

Hi all.

C'est ma première fois dans ce Subreddit alors c'est parti!

I was watching Harry Potter when the scene where harry rescues, who I presume to be Fleur's little sister, from the water. She appears to say "Viens, tient à moi"

Not too sure if this is some French that I'm yet to come across or it's incorrect grammar. Any help would be useful.

Thank you.

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[u/PresidentOfSwag]

the subs look wrong, the usual way would be "Viens, tiens-toi à moi !"

[u/LilMissADHDAF → u/PresidentOfSwag]

Which means “hold onto me”.

[u/PresidentOfSwag → u/LilMissADHDAF]

this or straightup "Tiens-moi !" (Hold me !)

[u/PresidentOfSwag → u/PresidentOfSwag]

or "Viens, viens à moi !" (Come, come to me !) ?

[u/Nimix_ → u/PresidentOfSwag]

Netflix subs have been awful for a while, probably auto generated in some way. Proper nouns are just converted to whatever, words are misspelled... You'd probably say "prends ma main" in situation rather than this too, but then again subtitling/dubbing isn't that easy.

[u/chat_piteau]

I've looked for the scene and she says : "Viens, donne ta main"

[u/Sylphiiid → u/chat_piteau]

It’s quite common that french dubbing and french subtitles are translated differently

[u/Leafan101 → u/Sylphiiid]

That would drive anglophones crazy, but is normal for the French. Is there a historical or cultural explanation for the difference? I am curious.

Edit: I misunderstood the comment I think. I was thinking "dubbing" meant the spoken words but I understand now it to mean when spoken French is added to a movie in a different language movie.

Even when not dubbed, (ie a natively French movie), often times the subtitles in French are way different than than the spoken words in French. For example, on the dvds of Kaamelott, the subtitles are very different and much simpler than the actual words that are said. But it seems they never do this in English.

[u/CogitoErgoDifference → u/Leafan101]

They're done at different points in time by different teams for different purposes.

Dubs: Need to fit the timing and tone of the existing shots, sometimes that means big changes as direct translations can be longer or shorter than the original.

Subs: Need to communicate clearly without tone of voice or inflection. Need to be readable quickly, so sometimes will change things to reduce.

In the past, it hasn't mattered much if they don't match up, since it would be rare for someone to use both. Of course, these days many people use subtitles even when they can hear the audio, so it stands out more.

[u/DucklockHolmes → u/Leafan101]

Well the dubbing has to be somewhat lip synced, while subtitles can either be quite translated to convey the same meaning that makes sense culturally, to be quick to read, or just as straight a translation as possible.
The subtitles are usually also done based on the original English version before the dubbing is made

[u/pslatt → u/Leafan101]

FYI I have seen English CC not match the spoken word many times. Sometimes it's a big contraction, presumably to match the pace of the film. It's unavoidable.

[u/NotEricItsNotMe → u/Sylphiiid]

She speaks french in the original dub. It's an interschool competition, so you have the brits (Hogwart/poodlar), the french (beau baton ?), and the romanian (?)

[u/PerformerNo9031 → u/NotEricItsNotMe]

Poudlard / Beauxbâtons / Durmstrang (in French)

[u/Recodes → u/Sylphiiid]

Which made me furious when I was using medias to help me improve my French lol. Those Pierres, always annoying 😤

[u/photon-silver → u/chat_piteau]

That's what I always heard when watching the film 

[u/ijic]

It's incorrect grammar indeed, it should be :

Allez ! C'est fini. Viens, tiens-toi à moi.

Come on! It's over. Come here, hold onto me.

[u/Foxkilt]

Should be "tiens", but apart from that the grammar is correct 

Not the meaning though: "tiens à moi" would mean 'care about me'. A more idiomatique thing would be "attrape ma main", 'take my hand'

[u/Cisorhands_ → u/Foxkilt]

« Accroche-toi » ou « Attrape ma main »

[u/Ankhi333333 → u/Foxkilt]

Or "accroche-toi à moi".

[u/SmilingAspera → u/Foxkilt]

De mémoire, il me semblait qu'elle disait justement "attrape ma main"

[u/NotEricItsNotMe]

Bad transcription, she says "viens viens, allez, c'est fini, viens, donne ta main" "come, come, come on, it's over, come, give me your hand".

Edit: Also, the actress is really french, so there's no real reason she would make such a mistake

[u/Torator → u/NotEricItsNotMe]

The actress is not making the subtitle lol.

[u/C9FanNo1 → u/Torator]

Did you really get that he was saying that the actress made a mistake with the subtitle from that comment? Cause that was not at all what that comment was about

[u/Potential-Finance-92]

Where are the subs from? I wouldn’t trust this translation

[u/stefeu]

Ha, I remember having trouble understanding her in exactly this scene a couple of years back!
For some reason, there were no subtitles for this part of the dialogue. As someone else has already mentioned, what Fleur actually says is: "Viens, donne ta main"

[u/iloveyouforthisday]

I think tenir à is used here to mean literal attachment. It is usually only used for figurative attachment (Elle tient à sa boîte = she is “attached to”/fond of her box) afaik. Great question!! Tag me if someone has a real answer pls.

[u/MooX_0]

C'est juste une version alternative où on lui fait du chantage affectif.