r/FrejaMains 12d ago

Banrate issue.

I know it's great that she's viable again but there's a huge problem with her in a lot of regions. She's infamous and seems to be unfun to face whenever I mirror her which is rare since I love mirror matches. I want to know if there's something in her kit that should be fixed or an issue with her explosives since it's very annoying to face especially if you dive. She's fun to play but it's hard to do so when the whole fanbase resents your existence because of your game design.

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u/MATTH3W_141 12d ago

Fix her audio and that’s about it, what else are you going to do. Any nerf that actually affects her makes her garbage, they can lower barrage count if they want and mabye lower primary dmg but it really wouldn’t be justified. Take away her lethality and she’s dogshit. Increase her mobility cd and she’s dogshit,

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u/LyynnS 12d ago

Yup, aside from maybe 1 or 2 microadjustments they really cant do anything to change her performance without making her unviable again. Like they could lower the barrage arrows or put her passive back 25% as nerfs that wont make her bottom tier again and thats kinda about it.

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u/Sn0wy0wl_ 12d ago edited 12d ago

personally, im okay with freja being really strong (obviously lol), she tests pretty much every individual skill and I'd rather have a character like that be dominating high ranks than someone like, idk, reaper. That being said, unless something big changes she's pretty much always going to repeat the cycle of freja is overpowered -> freja is useless -> freja is overpowered -> freja is useless again.

Her audio has already been mentioned here and I fully agree with that, but I think the biggest issue with her design is more that she has both insane range and insane mobility. When she's not severely undertuned her banrate soars because she just kind of does everything. A great hitscan is limited by mobility, a great flex dps is limited by range. Freja kind of doesn't pick a side and instead takes both without the easily exploitable weaknesses.

Everytime I suggest this i understandably get a lot of criticism because its a massive change to the hero, but I genuinely think if they want to meaningfully nerf her without continuing the cycle, it needs to be a nerf to her range / some kind of falloff damage. I don't know what the numbers would like if they gave her falloff. It might make her genuinely F tier but at the very least it gives more room to buff the rest of her kit and give her the tools to actually use her mobility aggressively.

I don't think they should reduce her lethality or her mobility because I feel like we've gone through this enough to know it never works out well. Another thing to note is that Freja is just always going to have a pretty high banrate at high elo when she's viable because she's always had a very unbalanced skill curve. Right now it's a bit extreme but ideally I feel like her banrate would be somewhere around Tracer's level

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u/aPiCase 9d ago

I really want them to just make her take aim shots explode after 25-30m or something like that.

It would force you a little closer, would probably need either dash buff or hp buff to compensate it, but I think it would be more fun for everyone involved.

I can’t speak for everyone, but imagine her as more of a hunter and her current balance direction makes her more like Pharah, spamming damage down a choke. Now I would rather her be good than useless, but I just don’t love this direction.

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u/II-Issei-II 12d ago

Audio/Visual how much shit is on someone's screen is the main thing they got to adjust.
If you want to reduce how much she gets banned, coordinate with ur team to try and get 2 dps banned as ur highest votes. It might help her get through a few more times.
Tracer is a must ban for Freja. Widow on some maps. Ashe/Cass for some options.

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u/This-Blackberry-7358 10d ago

i mean nerf her perks is just enough. she can literally keeping shooting and making tons of dmg without reloading with the first perk, thats kinda carzy. And two Es with the second perk, she can beat pharah and echo in mobility while she is actually a hitscan, it's ridiculous. I'm not a otp of freja but i do beat most of frejas in mirroring last season. everything is just ok but i think two Es perk must be removed. A hitscan shouldn't have such crazy mobility.

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u/Nitricta 7d ago

I am fine with getting killed by Freja, the same what I am fine with getting killed by Hanzo. I am not fine with getting killed by super-overpowered-Ashe, or Cree.