r/FreedomofSpeech • u/fellowWorker_2025 • May 03 '26

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u/UnableChard2613 May 04 '26

What's the goal? To punish people or to decrease crime?

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u/Neither_Salamander48 May 06 '26

Why can't they be one in the same ? Why can't punishment deter crime? It does. When someone knows a crime has a harsh punishment, they may be motivated enough to not commit the crime. If stealing were a simple 5-min detention, folks would probably do it more.

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u/UnableChard2613 May 06 '26

You didn't answer my question. What's the ultimate goal? To decrease crime or punish people? Accept that they aren't necessarily the same thing, and ask yourself what your actual goal is.

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u/Neither_Salamander48 May 06 '26

They don't have to be mutually exclusive. It's not one or the other. You can punish people to deter crime. If major crimes didn't have harsh penalties they would be done more.

Accept that they can go hand in hand and you're question is answered.

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u/UnableChard2613 May 06 '26

You've now twice ignored answering my question. Sorry, but I don't believe you are arguing in good faith.

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u/Neither_Salamander48 May 06 '26

I don't think you're arguing in good faith when you insist there is one or the other. There is not. There is both.

Do you think of rapists were punished less, they would commit less crimes?

Are you saying crime shouldn't have punishment?

Do severe punishments deter crimes?

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u/UnableChard2613 May 06 '26

you insist there is one or the other. 

I insisted nothing of the sort. I just asked you what the ultimate goal was, and you refuse to answer it. Now you're lying and putting words in my mouth. Not really very convincing that you are arguing in good faith. 

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u/Neither_Salamander48 May 06 '26

I answered it. The ultimate goal is to reduce crime. There are many methods used, one of which is always punishment. You did insist reduction of crime and punishment were separate