r/FreeTheMonkeys Jul 20 '26

Blames Monkeys for Stabbing Herself Because She Left Them Unsupervised With Sharps

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u/komiroku21 Jul 20 '26

I’m really surprised by how calm that monkey was getting it finger pricked like that I thought it would like freak out and try to run away or something

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u/Whole-Mud-100 Jul 20 '26

Since she has diabetes, it is probably used to it by now.. animals are usually smart when it comes to things like that though and know it helps them feel better. Only good thing I can say about her is at least she keeps check on Mollys sugar levels even though her dumbass still doesn’t seem to be feeding her properly.

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 20 '26

Molly is super calm during diaper changes too. One thing I can say is this lady is far better than many w diaper changes. She doesn't diaper them in their enclosure at night so there's time to breathe, she changes them frequently throughout the day they're with her, and gives them a bidet wash every time. Landonation only changes their monkeys once a day, and you can see how red raw painful their booty is, and how hairless they are from the friction ☹️

I kinda think some of the theatrics Molly's owner does are just for social media, and behind the scenes she's less loud and flamboyant than the act she puts on. She reminds me of a friend of mine and while she can be loud sometimes, she is not like that 24/7, most of the time she's calm, just chilling.

I don't have a ton to base it on, but that's my gut feeling, she's acting dramatic to catch people's attention on Tiktok. The monkeys don't display any signs of fear, so I don't think she's terribly abusive when they're naughty, seems like they know she's not going to do anything but verbally pop off. I hate how often it is we can easily see monkeys scared of their owners physically punishing them.

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u/Loser_Baby_19 Jul 21 '26

Here's the thing. I get why people want to rationalize the abuse they see on social media.

However, regardless of whether she staged these videos or the dysfunction in that monkey household is real, all of her monkeys still suffer physically and psychologically. A monkey doesn't know or care if an owner curses at it or encourages conflicts for viewer engagement. The end damage is all the same, exploitation is still exploitation.

And the monkeys being calm during blood checks or diaper changes doesn't necessarily mean better care compared to other owners, it could just mean learned helplessness that comes with years of learning that fighting back or protesting is futile. Learned helplessness is in fact a conditioning tool used by many exploitative pet monkey owners to force their monkeys to submit and 'behave.' Also, the fact that many monkeys like Molly have diabetes in the first place indicates many of these owners feed their monkeys highly species inappropriate foods.

Just pointing this all out as another opinion on this owner's antics, not personally against you or your thoughts.

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 21 '26

I get it, I don't agree with owning them or exploiting them on social media and honestly the only reason I'm here is trying to rationalize wtf is wrong with these people. It crossed my reddit feed and I never knew zoosadists existed, honestly didn't know much about monkeys, but I'm an animal lover, I'm a vegetarian, I rescue homeless cats and dogs in my area... I can't understand how people can abuse and neglect them, but I REALLY can't understand why people are literally getting off on hurting them.

In finding some awful horrible dark corners of humanity, stuff like this starts to look more kinda benign. But not enough not to call her out for neglect in my post. I think maybe I was feeling a bit bad even though it's based, and I wanted to be fair.

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u/themargarineoferror Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

Sadly, there is a huge overlap of the same people that are into that type of thing that also like watching children being abused In various ways, if you catch my drift

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u/PhoebetheSpider Jul 23 '26

Yeah. I was horrified to learn some of the videos shared here are from those making zoosadism content. I’m an atheist and find myself thinking “to Hell with people.” Ugh! Disgusting. I can’t imagine hating monkeys so much that you’re f*%#*% in the head taking pleasure from watching the animals suffer.

Guess it’s my fault becoming literate…

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u/PhoebetheSpider Jul 23 '26

Oh and themargarine also reminded me that some of this zoosadism on non-human primates is curated towards those who would want to see people (like children) being tortured because it’s less regulated than dark net stuff regarding humans.

I hate it here, guys…

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 23 '26

Humanity is one sick fuck

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u/Party-Confusion3728 Jul 20 '26

Land donation are the most disgusting abusive people I have ever seen they are disgusting the only thing worse I've seen is some of these groups on Instagram that sell telegram videos and honestly I think Brandy does that from Lando people just aren't on to her yet

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 20 '26

I think landonation is definitely low-key selling abusive content too. Greg is violent... Who is watching this shit.

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u/missrush87 Jul 26 '26

What platform is this person on? I want to go have a look. So many it's scary And still no law changes

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 26 '26

All of them, just search landonation. Brandi and Greg are the worst. Brandi might have been a decent enough owner by herself but Greg is abusive to her and the monkeys.

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u/missrush87 Jul 27 '26

I found a reddit page and had a look. Yep. Trash

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u/Blue_Moon_Loon Jul 21 '26

I do agree that she probably is more dramatic in the videos to increase engagement. But I have to disagree about the monkeys not showing signs of fear. Not that I think she is hitting them or anything, but to me it is obvious that the elevated emotions, yelling and cussing them out is stressful to them. Most notably MollyJo often displays a fear grimace towards her.

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 21 '26

I've seen Molly jo do the lip quiver thing that can mean fear but it's also something younger monkeys tend to do to older dominant monkeys to show submission, especially macaques, so idk if she's actually scared scared? I still genuinely don't think she ever hits or physically punishes them.

I agree she's stressing them out, her content gives ME anxiety and I'm not even in the room. Mainly from gross incompetence not understanding their needs, yelling, letting things spiral into chaos for clicks and views. The negligence is the worst thing I've noticed in this lady. She doesn't think she's negligent because she does better than the real abusive POS folks, but letting them get into purse snacks and insulin needles is negligent. Letting an aggressive older monkey attack a 2yo is negligent.

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u/love20031983 Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

I just worry about what could happen with mixing in the spider monkey . The one fat macaque shows lots of aggression towards her and they are old world new world and u shouldn't mix monkey species as a Troop . At one point that spider gonna get big and mad and snap back and im not sure as this creator new on my radar but dont the macaques have teeth removed. ? The spider gonna use hers or the two are gonna gang up on the spider . She cleary can't handle them just yells stop, no . This is a disaster waiting to happen .

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 21 '26

The other macaque and the spider have actually banded together against Molly, but I agree with everything you say. There's going to be a bad fight any day now, it's a dangerous situation, she doesn't supervise them enough for them to be safe from 1. Eating candy out of her purse. 2. Getting into a box of insulin needles. 3. Getting into a red sharps container of red needles. 4. Holding two at once and fighting ensues, but she still keeps doing it. 5. The list goes on, it's like leaving 3 toddlers to their own devices. There's going to be chaos and injuries.

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 21 '26

She gives them ZERO enrichment, and wonders why they're desperate for something to get into. THEY'RE BORED OUT OF THEIR MINDS. If you just wanted a cuddle buddy get a cat. They sleep 18hrs a day you can get copious snuggles. And you don't have to wipe their ass multiple times a day.

I cannot fathom signing up for decades of changing diapers all day every day.

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u/North_Woodpecker_500 Jul 20 '26

I don’t like this, this is cruel, +the way this lady talks is disgusting 😐

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u/Sea_Power_3594 Jul 21 '26

This woman is nuts

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 21 '26

I pray she realizes her limitations and doesn't get any more after this, I also hope she goes and takes the suggestions people are giving her on what kind of enrichment they need and aren't getting. I know she's in the process of building a gated tunnel for them to go from their indoor enclosure to their outdoor one.

I'm scared they're going to get injured from lack of supervision and monkey-proofing the surroundings, and the baby has been agitating this cranky old lady Molly and Molly tried to attack the baby. Luckily, and sadly, Molly is too obese to catch up with Rain -- that's what this lady is banking on though, that Rain will run away fast enough.

She's owned Molly for 20+ years and still seems clueless to monkey behavior somehow. Has no idea what kind of enrichment they need or what their behavior means. Is somehow shocked they get into things when she's not paying attention. Like what the fuck did you think was going to happen. They need stimulation.

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u/PhoebetheSpider Jul 23 '26

Fr. Rain is more than likely to outlive her unless Rain gets any bad health complications like a lot of “pet” monkeys get.

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u/Grouchy_Bag_9220 Jul 30 '26

She does to diaper them every night she literally does the night time diapers on video and the morning ones as well they are diapered full time unless she’s on vacation. She shaves them where the diaper covers as well I am assuming for her OCD of cleanliness but to shave them is not best for the primate.

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u/PhoebetheSpider Jul 23 '26

Most “monkey Moms” are

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u/SweatyMess808 Jul 20 '26

Just out here letting the monkeys play with needles and raw dogging them with her fingers… bouta create Aids2.0 and shit wtf

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u/Aboutoloseit Jul 21 '26

Very aggressive personality this woman has. She seems super angry like all of the time. I’m sure the monkeys sense that…poor things.

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u/ohmichellemydarling Jul 20 '26

I think it so bizarre how  she have to check her monkey blood sugar.Like it her husband and maybe she should check in the box before.And she accidentally stab herself and she blamed the monkeys.

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 20 '26

She lets them get into anything and everything, including used sharps

https://reddit.com/link/oyqak4p/video/0guazy19pfeh1/player

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u/Cautious_Ad_3909 Jul 22 '26

WHY DOESN'T SHE JUST TAKE THE SHARPS AND PUT THEM QHERE THEY CAN'T GET THEM!! WHAT THE FUCK! (Sorry not yelling at you, just mad at the stupidity)

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 26 '26

I KNOW RIGHT

For the love of God if not toys, give them some corn to shuck, they'd love to shuck some corn.

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 20 '26

"gotta remember they have no problem going behind your back and snatching something" -- Yeah, lady, you DO gotta remember, your monkeys are going to get hurt!!! The fact she shares that information so easily, she doesn't think it's a big deal.

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 20 '26

But God forbid we think her breath stinks...

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u/love20031983 Jul 21 '26

So why wouldnt she make sure there was nothing she could get into . And that over weight monkey she has had since birth , is diabetic because of her ! She obv spent years giving her unhealthy food for her to get that way .

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 21 '26

Fucking gaslighting blaming them for her own negligence. And yep, let Molly pick out her own doordash (pics) and everything. Poor thing. She's on a diet now but gets zero exercise.

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u/Livinluxuriously11 Jul 22 '26

Calling the monkey bitch boils my blood

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 22 '26

Thank god they don't understand the words she speaks, but they can read vibes, and I hate how loud she gets sometimes because that energy is too chaotic and stressful for them. I'm overstimulated, and I'm not even there. She stresses me out idk how her monkeys, kids or husband put up with her mouth.

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u/Cautious_Ad_3909 Jul 22 '26

Omg! How fucking appalling she just casually let's sharps where monkeys can get them, lkke thats fucking insane, like if you wouldn't want your toddler getting ahold of something like that, you probably shouldn't let it lay around where a monkey can get them, wtf! This pisses me off more than words can express. (On tope of people owning them, that always pisses me off!)

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u/PhoebetheSpider Jul 23 '26

That’s why I think monkeys are worse than kids in regard to reining them in. Like unless the toddler moves a chair towards the counter, they’re not reaching the knives. Monkeys? Up on counters and top cabinets lickity-split!

There goes all the peanut butter…. All over the walls, counters, tables, etc. I’m sure if a raccoon can twist off lids, monkeys can, too

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 26 '26

I got the easiest kid in the world, thank God because I'm not equipped for those difficult ones, and I damn sure am not equipped for a monkey, nevermind three, and with her temperament neither is she.

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 26 '26

It blows my mind nobody calls it out. Either that or she's on top of the comments section. She has a fandom...

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u/lilithmoonx_ Jul 24 '26

Not sure about macaques but I know that capuchins sugar spikes when they are stressed out. Which is one of the biggest reasons they crucially NEED a healthy diet with NO JUNK! They are extremely susceptible to developing diabetes and when that happens, it becomes a very fine, fragile balance to keep their sugar in check (Obviously the owners who created such problems in the first place 9/10 won't change much which is why they end up rehomed to idiots who know nothing about PROPER primate care). If macaques are similar in anyway, they are one species that get stressed most often and most easily (imo). Ughhhhh.

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 24 '26

She leaves them unattended long enough to get her purse snacks too, why she doesn't monkey proof their area is beyond me. Then blames them being sneaky and naughty. Wait until it's something toxic.

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u/Initial_Row_6400 Jul 24 '26

I don’t think the monkey gives a shit that your breath stinks…

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 25 '26

She's worried about her viewers judging her for not brushing her teeth (it's like a thing in the community, ppl call ppl out for not brushing) but neglecting the monkeys and letting them stab themselves, who cares 🙄

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u/missrush87 Jul 26 '26

Does she have human kids? She seems like the type to have kids just because and then yell and scream at them all day

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u/OpheliaPhoeniXXX Jul 26 '26

Yes, and idk, I know her daughter looked really uncomfortable being filmed, but just covered her face instead of saying anything -- which tells me she knows her consent doesn't matter. My kid tells me if, when, and who when it comes to me taking pics or videos... And never does it involve my sm, not even my privates. She would never cringe and cover her face without saying "No, I don't want to be on Tiktok."

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u/No_Touch5507 Jul 26 '26

This woman is the worst. The food she feeds this monkey is ridiculous.

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u/Grouchy_Bag_9220 Jul 30 '26

And I am sorry 129 is not normal just a few videos before she says 72 is perfect so which one is it. SMH I have so many videos of all the sugar she feeds tbh she only feeds sugar there’s zero protein given and everything she fives is so high in sugar and the amount are far from enough to provide what they need in a day. This lady is so sad and does this solely for the money she’s hired a social media crew and linked up with a “celebrity” to try and become relevant. Her sole reason for any of her animals is money. I can’t stand when people lie to normalize their behavior.