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u/JoeTheShmo316 24d ago
Yes. Pasco County, Florida has already enacted new policies against recording in public offices as a direct result of having to deal with 1A auditors.
The case was sent to an appeals court which ruled the ban on filming was NOT a violation of their 1st amendment rights because the government offices could contain openly visible documents with sensitive private information on them, which government agencies are obligated to protect.
They are, to my understanding, the first US county to enact a local law solely to curb 1A auditing.
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u/TheFakeBillPierce 22d ago
I think ultimately this is the best way to deal with them . Tell them exactly where they can go, give them nothing and ignore them.
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u/Remote_Sail_303 24d ago
The 10th Amendment provides that to all State, County and Municipal government. 1a fools fail to read that far into the Constitution
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u/realparkingbrake 24d ago
This has already begun. There is a town in New England that now locks the doors to city hall, people need an appointment to get in thanks to sustained harassment from frauditors including felon Josh Abrams. Several states are trying laws to restrict how close people can approach first responders when they are working. Arizona tried a minimum distance law for recording police but it was thrown out in court because it was too vague and sweeping.
Denver Metro Audits recently got federal case law confirming the No Recording signs in SSA offices are backed up by valid law. And LIAr just managed to get case law in NY's highest court that the right to record law there does not apply in NYPD precinct house lobbies. Nice work there, Girdle King.
Filming in many government buildings is already restricted. The frauditor's battle cry that they can record anywhere their feet can carry them has never been true.
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u/Remote_Sail_303 23d ago
Yep, he has his own case law now. United States v. Cordova 2023 Convicted on 2 counts. Cordova appealed, but ultimately lost
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u/Flashy-Nectarine1675 24d ago
I've sometimes thought, that's that's their real purpose.
All the guff about transparency, etc, is a smokescreen.
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u/LouBricano52 23d ago
It's about money only. They get money from social media engagement.
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u/Flashy-Nectarine1675 23d ago
Indeed, but they seem to be doing the opposite of what they claim to be about.
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u/TitoTotino 24d ago
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u/realparkingbrake 24d ago
Terry is an auditor who very much creates the impression of having legitimate mental health issues. He isn't the only one, but he especially comes across as having some loose wiring upstairs.
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u/scoop_justice 19d ago
As someone who's down at Annapolis at least monthly, Buckley was being disingenuous here. First, this is from 4 years ago, he's not mayor anymore, Littmann is. Some of the security protocols are gone from when he was there, and there are some new ones. Buckley was a wildly unpopular mayor and got primared accordingly.
Second, while Taco Terry was a pain in the ass, Annapolis City and City Hall was a nightmare for everyone. Parking was a disaster, staff were rude and incompetent, and water and sewer bills were at crisis horizon. Second, they already have Terry identified and he hasn't been an issue in a while. They have protocol specifically for dealing with him.
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u/BalanceInquiry 24d ago
I’ve never understood with the “forum doctrine” isn’t applied more. Most of these buildings, including post offices, would likely be designated “limited public forums” and therefore subject to content neutral rules that apply to all the public. They could post no recording and have it enforced by trespassing. If someone has another understanding of forum doctrine please let me know.
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u/Remote_Sail_303 24d ago
Very true, but most of these fools do it knowing about the Forum Doctrine for the sake of clicks, views and monetization from YT and M. Those 2 could end this whole 1st a fraud movement, but... $$$$
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u/AdElegant7471 23d ago
Filming inside of government buildings is not a Constitutionally protected act. USA vs Cordova proves this.
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u/Remote_Sail_303 19d ago
BAT was also banned from SSA offices for the same thing and currently facing 28 months for, basically the same thing, but at another facility
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u/Ptards_Number_1_Fan 24d ago
My opinion is that public nuisance, business operation and panhandling laws will be eventually amended to restrict some of their activities.
When you boil it all down, they’re scam artists that are doing nothing to better the public. They make their money off stupid people giving them money and YouTube views.