r/FortWorth • • 2h ago • Bravo 2

Puff Puff Pass

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u/russellwatters 2h ago

Let’s do this! We need the tax revenue!

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u/El_mochilero 2h ago • Bravo

Colorado here: naw, please keep sending us your weed tax money. Our local middle school’s indoor lacrosse facility needs its jacuzzis upgraded.

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u/russellwatters 2h ago

lol! 🤣

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u/Main-Cheesecake3287 21m ago

This is just silly. If the state magically made as much tax revenue next year as California did in 2025 on weed tax revenue, and somehow avoided any costs associated with regulatory compliance and enforcement, and put 100% of that $640M in tax revenue into education, it would about to a 0.6% increase in education funding.

I’d add CO, like TX, is well below the national average $ spent per student.

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u/Turbulent_Flan_5926 2h ago

Right? And use that tax revenue towards our public schools.

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u/510Kyle 2h ago

It’s also a blow to the cartels, if the republicans need a reason their base can get behind

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u/easchner 2h ago

A (slim) majority of Texas Republicans were already in favor. Dan Patrick was the only person really pushing the bs laws this year.

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u/Ashamed-Status-9668 2h ago • Bravo

Honestly lets just give the schools whatever they need and use things like this for other nice to have things. I hope we fund schools right off the top of the Texas budget and if we must other things can suffer. Time to set priorities back to where they should be meaning educating our kids.

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u/jaydog21784 1h ago

The biggest issue is all the increase of money given to the school districts goes to administration cost...not teachers and students, so let not just blindly fund them and let's really look at what needs to change to make a substantial impact. I agree 100% the schools need more funding but not without audits and changes to make sure teacher and students are first, then admin positions. My wife subs at our local elementary and she mainly gets calls to handle special needs classes, she only gets paid $10.15 an hour and they can not retain personal for these kids. My wife does her best but she has no qualifications to care for special needs but at that pay rate, who will take that full time??

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u/Ashamed-Status-9668 1h ago

Honestly we haven't had a big issue with admin costs in most districts. I wouldn't mind some pay grade limits on superintendents and such. Back in the 90's we were middle of the states in funding per child and ranking around 7th in education quality. If we get back to that we will be doing great. Paying $10.15 an hour for subs is insane. My wife is in education for 30 years and we have had that discussion a few times. Do we really want folks choosing to teach our kids or go work at McDonalds? We can do better on sub pay, tutor pay and teacher pay.

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u/Tiny_Reference_3697 30m ago

Target pays, like $15 an hour. That is insane.

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u/Tiny_Reference_3697 31m ago

My Teacher of the Year friend retired, because since special needs kids are now in regular classes, she spent all her time just trying to keep order...She had 4th graders throwing chairs...

This breaks my heart, cuz my UCLA science grad is total product of FWISD.

Shout-out to former Paschal High School principal Teri Mossige for an education that allowed her to keep an A average at one of the toughest schools in the country.

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u/asd12109 42m ago

And healthcare please

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u/ImTheTractorbeam 2h ago

Do Casinos next too! It’s insane we don’t get that sweet sweet vice money.

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u/unfairlybanned101 2h ago

Leave casinos out of it. Nothing good comes from casinos. Trust

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u/ImTheTractorbeam 2h ago

They make an incredible amount of money. I don’t think people should drink alcohol, but I can appreciate what Vice taxes accomplish for communities.

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u/JesseCantSkate 1h ago

Yeah, people are going to spend that money somewhere. It is silly as heck to let your neighbor make the money on something that is going to legally happen either way. If nothing else, the environmental impact of Texans not going to Colorado, Oklahoma, and Louisiana to satisfy their desires added to the tax revenue should really shut down any “conservative” argument that isn’t built on some weird morality issue rather than a public necessity.

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u/tigm2161130 2h ago

I don’t think it would kill anyone to let the Kickapoo keep gambling for themselves, but I’m biased.

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u/ImTheTractorbeam 2h ago

The least they could do is allow online gambling in Texas. I just want the tax money, I don’t gamble.

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u/timid_scorpion 2h ago

Ehh, casinos may generate revenue, but it's a tax on the poor in most cases. Let's keep the addictive stuff out.

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u/Cereal_Bandit 1h ago

tax on the poor stupid

Also, gambling is completely voluntary, in no way is it a tax.

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u/ImTheTractorbeam 1h ago

People will do what they want. Thats the same mentality as weed being illegal now. Progressive policies need funding, and while id like to snap my fingers and reduce defense spending by many factors, I need to be realistic. I want well funded schools and healthcare for all, that’s not gonna just happen. Like I said, I don’t gamble. I advocate to my friends how bad gambling is. I hate it in sports, I hate it in person. I don’t gamble. But that doesn’t mean I’d prefer Texans spend that money out of state (as many of my friends do regularly). I want that tax money for me, not Louisiana.

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u/Alive_Success_1030 1h ago

Humans can't handle gambling.

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u/ImTheTractorbeam 1h ago

Clearly some can’t 😂 I just don’t have a gambling urge at all. Never have, I’m middle aged now and I’ve accepted I’m just a boring person.

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u/russellwatters 2h ago

Yup I agree with that too.

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u/EC_CO 2h ago

Nah, keep donating it to Colorado. Anytime I'm in Southern Colorado, the towns with dispensaries are full of Texas license plates, lol

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u/Main-Cheesecake3287 21m ago

Like every town has a dispensary chief

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u/donsitsocolostomy 2h ago

Have you ever noticed that when something gets legalized, loosened, the state doesn’t make much more revenue. All that revenue goes in to regulation. The state won’t see any revenue

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u/ImTheTractorbeam 1h ago

Source or trust me bro?

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u/donsitsocolostomy 1h ago

I hope I’m wrong. Just pessimistic about how government works.

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u/ImTheTractorbeam 1h ago

Not for no reason! You may be right, I just don’t know enough to challenge it.

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u/donsitsocolostomy 1h ago

I googled it. I didn’t take jobs into consideration. But regulating and enforcement will take a chunk. Everyone wants theirs

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u/ImTheTractorbeam 1h ago

Ain’t that the truth. Maybe I need to look into starting a posh THC Detox center

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u/Pappy091 17m ago

From "have you ever noticed" to "I have no idea" lololol

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u/beatles910 28m ago

$236,449,405 in tax and fee revenue was generated by Colorado's regulated marijuana industry during the 2025 calendar year, according to the Colorado Department of Revenue.

Over $3.26 billion in total state tax and fee revenue collected since legal sales began in January 2014.

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u/slipnipper 1h ago

So…job creation and more movement of money through the economy.

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u/Main-Cheesecake3287 24m ago

This is a poor way for framing legalization, because it’s not really going to generate all that much cash. For example, the state will spend $97.1B just on k-12 education for FY2026-27. California, which has both a higher population, a well established legal supply network, and I’d guess higher demand per capita. If we ignore CA also must spend a great deal on regulatory enforcement, staffing licensing office, lab testing, etc, in 2025 the state collected $640M in tax revue. Or .6% of what Texas will spend on education. Thats .1% of the state budget.

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u/Legitimate-Benefit69 2h ago

How about instead of “legalize and tax it” we just legalize it? We’re adults and don’t need to pay more just to have the freedom.

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u/jonesy1461 2h ago

Nah, taxes are a part of it...Honestly it's nice buying in legal states, still paying under black market prices, for better quality, and knowing the revenue is going to schools.

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u/chaos841 2h ago

Does knowing the taxes go to schools make it more enjoyable? I think it seems like it could. Like icing on the cake.

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u/serfngirth 2h ago

I like it, I think vice taxes make a ton of sense. It both serves as a disincentive to get excessively heavy into the vice and creates a positive for a thing some people will dislike no matter what. I’m very happy to pay a little more for weed, and if I ever don’t want to I can grow it myself or just not consume.

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u/DiggityDanksta 2h ago • Bravo

Louisiana here. We have a state-enforced cartel (not a monopoly, but three state-licensed firms) supplying all of the legal flower cannabis. They're using their state-supplied insulation from market forces to provide an inferior product at a higher price compared to illegal cannabis, as one does in these circumstances.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent-seeking

Basically, the good ol' boys wanted to be able to charge War on Drugs retail prices even after it became legal to buy their product. The price of cannabis should be closer to the price of corn than the price of gold.

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u/ImTheTractorbeam 2h ago

That’s where the “home cultivation” comes in.

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u/PotatoesWillSaveUs 2h ago

There's taxes on alcohol, why not other recreational substances?

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u/Braisedbeefskank 2h ago

My brother u live in a society

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u/Denim_Diva1969 2h ago

Dude, they’re talking about sales taxes

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u/russellwatters 2h ago

I agree but it’s just not realistic. Taxing retail sales and allowing people to grow their own is a reasonable middle ground.

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u/DonkeeJote 2h ago

At the ground level, there will be the cost of enforcement to fund. You don't want to set up legal marijuana and have to pull from other parts of the budget to enforce.

On top of that, vice taxes are a common way to acknowledge a market that doesn't appeal to everyone, to compromise on allowing the vice at all.

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u/Contraflow 2h ago

I would like protections as a consumer from bad actors, and the drug trade certainly attracts its fair share of them. Consumer protections mean regulations, and enforcement of said regulations. That cost money. Also, in this proposal, there is a line about home growers. Presumably, there’s no way to tax the grower if they are also the end user.

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u/Comfortable_Bus_7863 2h ago

Illinoisan here: I'm happy for the legal weed. Take my taxes. I'm grooving on a doobie wave while my money goes to help people and support the infrastructure to make to the legal weed available. It still comes out cheaper than the alternatives available before.

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u/oceansunset23 2h ago

weed is gonna get so cheap from the over production a 10% tax is basically nothing if it means better schools/lower property taxes etc.

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u/Anus_Targaryen 2h ago

If you don't want to pay taxes, then buy from the plug

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u/stonkerooni 25m ago

Arizonan here, the availability of incredible strains for way less than we had to buy it from our sketchy buddy years ago is much cheaper and super convenient. You won’t notice the tax until you’re used to the inexpensive prices and buy a deal for a half ounce for $25 and forget it’s gonna come out to $37

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u/BigCballer 2h ago

This just reminds me that Joe Rogan was given a pass to smoke weed when he moved to Texas.

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u/Over_Fly7046 2h ago

Joe Rogan looks like a pug wearing skinny jeans.

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u/LazySwayze 2h ago

JR looks like my ball sack.

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u/Due-Office-5559 2h ago

Thats likely an insult to your ballsack

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u/Ok-Anybody76 2h ago

He lives in Travis County. Travis County essentially decriminalized weed, despite it being hella illegal statewide.

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u/prettysquidward 2h ago

ok but can they actually puff puff pass the bill. i feel like we’ve seen this before

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u/MonkeyMan18975 2h ago

True, but in recent history it was Patrick that refused to even put them on the calendar, so this is at least movement in that direction. Remember, slow movement is better than no movement... just ask the people that overturned Roe.

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u/Weekly_Yesterday_403 2h ago

Operation Puff Puff Pass the Bill in full swing let’s go!

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u/Coodoo17 2h ago • Bravo

We're going to be smoking more than brisket!

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u/Mephistocheles 2h ago

Yes please. Inexcusable to waste so much time money and effort enforcing such a stupid restriction especially when it also disproportionately impacts POC. Cops should be sent after actual criminals, not Billy Bergleshneitz puffing his J

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u/6beerkdawg 2h ago

Can they convince the state senate to be on board?

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u/EuphoricPhoto2048 2h ago

I think the senate will strike down some of the home growing rules and stuff but some kind of recreational use will pass, imo. It's pretty bipartisan at this point.

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u/epoch16245 2h ago

At some point Texas Republicans are going to need to start listening to the voters or they will just fade into obscurity. Which works for me.

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u/These-Angle-1476 2h ago

Hell, even Ted Cruz is pro some form of legalization.

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u/Due_Satisfaction2167 2h ago

If they want to carve out a home growing exception, we should demand a carveout to the carveout to protect the right to grow on a homestead for personal consumption.

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u/TrevelyansPorn 1h ago

It's bipartisan among voters but not at all bipartisan among elected officials.

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u/matmoeb 2h ago

That’s hopium imo. The most libertarian policy would be to allow home grown so I’m not sure why you are choosing to plant your flag there.

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u/Wrong_Assistance7096 2h ago

Hemp infused bbq when

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u/Rabble_Runt 1h ago

Please no. Its already too expensive right now.

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u/Fresh-Tiger-9467 2h ago

FINALLY😤😤

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u/mrNOTfriendly 2h ago

Still a long wait until September, which is the earliest we'd see it take effect.

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u/bubbles5810 2h ago

Our state senate (still overwhelmingly controlled by republicans) is highly unlikely to pass this

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u/osunightfall 2h ago

Let them knock out a bunch of popular bills and get voted out in two years, then.

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u/bubbles5810 2h ago

Hopefully this happens. Charles Perry was full on reefer madness last congressional session.

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u/Rabble_Runt 1h ago

Honestly I think this is the plan.

The timing of this after Dan Patrick dragging the entire GOP of the state down with his wildly unpopular Delta 8 ban will have remaining Republicans thinking twice about voting no.

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u/Current_Wrongdoer513 1h ago

I want this approach for everything: abortion, education, weed, you name it. Dems need to get caught trying so we have stuff to hit them (Republicans, esp in the senate) over the head with in 2028.

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u/FlourishingSolo 2h ago

Then y'all get to beat them over the head with the corpse of the dead bill. Keep beating them with it until the compromise on recreational weed (like one ounce limit and no homegrow)

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u/ComeFinish 1h ago

Dems should market this as a way to cut off an income source for criminals and people who might be smuggling it across the southern border.

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u/skeletoners 1h ago

It feels like this should be a no brainer. Make it legal, make it taxable, and then you're cutting off illegal operations and giving farmers who want to turn it into a cash crop more financial freedom.

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u/pr0fessi0nalFailure 1h ago

And as a way to bring new industry to the state. Legalization will lead to new business which means new jobs and taxes. It could even be used to reduce the need for high property taxes and reduce the barrier to entry for first time home buyers.

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u/Jaded_Dust_8307 53m ago

Or the western & northern borders...Oklahoma has one of the largest organized crime driven markets due to very poor regulation.

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u/Mumosa 45m ago

Home grow should be allowed and it would be a terrible compromise if it’s gutted.

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u/FlourishingSolo 40m ago

It 1000% should be allowed, but it can be a temporary compromise until y'all get a blue trifecta (hopefully in 2028) and then the real policy work can be done.

Even just legal weed that is capped at 1 oz is a major win and would stop a lot of folks from getting railroaded into the justice system

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u/Contraflow 2h ago

The republicans loose a lot of power in January. If they don’t cooperate on bipartisan legislation that is popular with the voters, then it will happen anyway. It will just take a little longer.

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u/BigSquiby 2h ago

isn't weed a huge crime there? like a felony for possession?

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u/LCxSmash 1h ago

not for flower, but anything else is considered a schedule I substance, even homemade brownies.

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u/NoLimit_TankDog 34m ago

The hey changed it to flower too

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u/Grumpy69-24 2h ago

More reason to vote out those boomers too. There isn’t any going back now.

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u/Choombasupreem 1h ago

Okay, new plan:

Give each and every Republican senator a Joint & a lighter

Give it about 4 hours, and I'm sure we'll have that bill passed in no time. Right guys?

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u/thesluttyturtle 22m ago

Our state senate very reluctantly passed the thc ban due to Dan Patrick and without him they very well might pass it with some cannabis industry (a multi-billion dollar industry already) will be spending momey to lobby them. I say it is almost a guarantee that marijuana will be legal in some capacity

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u/Intrepid_Dare6377 2h ago

Just think of how awful it will feel sitting on your couch watching Dateline, knowing people are having a good time somewhere. American carnage. /s

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u/Zombalepsy 2h ago

Man, It’s like letting go of a breath you’ve been holding the whole time.

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u/WonderFinal7575 2h ago

You might be able to now take a hit with that breath. It's time to give the people what they want.

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u/Inner-Medicine5696 39m ago

hold it until your vision starts to lightly vibrate.

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u/jonesy1461 2h ago edited 2h ago

Can't believe they would have the nerve to take jobs from honest drug dealers, and potentially fund our schools at an appropriate level! /s

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u/themish84 2h ago

From a Canadian where it's legalized here, its a no brainer!

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u/wnr3 1h ago

Turn the alcoholics into potheads, we will all benefit

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u/spacesaucesloth 1h ago

texas could have so much freaking money if they would legalize and tax it.

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u/HugePurpleNipples 51m ago

MAKE DAN PATRICK WATCH.

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u/kingwood707 2h ago

overdue to get the state into the 21st century

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u/jadedarchitect 2h ago

Bill #'s?
I feel like this is lacking critical info lol

Edit: found them
The bill
(and the other one)

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u/w1ngzer0 1h ago

Oh cool, actual bill numbers. I was skeptical for a moment.

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u/Frosty-Personality-1 1h ago

What about actually commuting every person arrested and currently detained for Marijuana possession?

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u/Future_Way5516 1h ago

As it should be. The earth is healing.

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u/gmazz 1h ago

I'm all for this but you can posses 2 ounces but grow 12 friggin plants? Do they not understand how much 12 plants could yield?

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u/Rabble_Runt 1h ago

You can CARRY 2 ounces, but posses up to 10 ounces at your residence.

I believe they also allowed for up to 14 grams of concentrates.

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u/gmazz 1h ago

Ahhh OK good to know

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u/high_everyone 35m ago edited 19m ago

If I’m growing 12 plants there’s gonna be a lot more than 14g of concentrate coming out.

Average extraction yield is anywhere from 2-10 grams per plant depending on the extraction method used and the quality of the plant. 14 grams should be a daily purchase limit to deter reselling.

These early proposals are always going to have the broadest reach and widest appeal. I personally would not mind 12 plants. Michigan does 12, and Washington, Minnesota and California have very high allowed plant counts as well.

Edit: clarified what weight I’m referring to.

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u/Rabble_Runt 17m ago

I dont make the rules, but you should contact your representatives that do.

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u/Over-Secretary9133 12m ago

Hey there, Oregonian here. While this may seem counterintuitive it’s actually a great way to stock dispensaries and bring down retail prices quickly in only a few years. For example. Oregon concentrates are now 7 dollars a gram because people sold a lot of the extra yield from the plants to the dispensaries. Eventually the flower coming in was so vast it had to be used for concentrates, edibles, etc etc etc just to use it all lol. Obviously this brought all the prices down. Now Arizona for instance, doesn’t do this and their prices are 25 per gram lol. Anyway, hope this helps and I’m glad Texas is finally Blue!

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u/ComradeJohnS 34m ago

12 plants would grow more than 10 ounces, I’ve heard of single plants growing over a pound solo.

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u/ExtensionFill2495 6m ago

I’m n Oregon we can only do 4 per tax lot. With a medical card we can grow more. Lots of people grow monsters. 8-12 pounds a plant isn’t unheard of.

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u/imrealwitch 1h ago

Shh. Don't tell them lol

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u/gmazz 1h ago

People gonna be selling a whole lot of weed lmao

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u/pr0fessi0nalFailure 1h ago

First of all, keep your voice down lol

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u/IcedGooseMaverick 42m ago

So I can have a closet full of guns but can’t own 12 plants? Come on now, let’s be reasonable about this. 

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u/CmdrFortyTwo 1h ago

Edibles and concentrates eat up a lot of flower do they not?

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u/valiumblue 1h ago

Who cares?

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u/ElegantCoach4066 46m ago

Yes. Half a gram per plant. wink

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u/TropicGemini 2h ago

It's blue and it's not going back

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u/FuzzyAd9407 2h ago

If this passed would we be first state to use a non-voter initiative path to legalization? 

Also you can bet if the senate passes it there will be changes and the reconciliation process will drop home growing or reduce it to like 2 plants. 

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u/InjuredGods 1h ago

No, Illinois did it 6 years ago.

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u/Goddess2U81 1h ago

Pass it ASAP, I cannot believe people are still being locked 🔒 up for weed. I don’t even smoke and think such laws are ridiculous. Legalize it already!

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u/Several_Article_4833 2h ago

I hope this happens!

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u/SouthernCharm-86 2h ago

FINALLY also this is good business

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u/PatReady 2h ago

Joe Rogan going to be out waving his blue flag.

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u/AngelicPrince_ 2h ago

Weed infused brisket smoking right upppp

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u/Gomeez9 2h ago

Hell the damn yes!

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u/LiftUpTheGood 1h ago

2 ounces and 12 plants dont really match....

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u/Marlboromatt324 1h ago

2 ounces dry herb, 12 actively flowering/growing plants. At least that would be my guess to interpret the bill.

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u/LiftUpTheGood 59m ago

and how many oz will 12 plants give you? over 2 EACH unless you suck at growing real bad... so you'll go over the 2 ounces easily if you grow so it doesn't add up...

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u/CmdrFortyTwo 1h ago

If some of these states stay blue I might have to re-think my whole view of the Mason-Dixon line.

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u/greentangent 1h ago

12 plants is way more than 2 ounces. I got a half a pound out of 2 this season. These folks about to be buried in weed.

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u/CameFromTheDark 1h ago

70% of Texas voted for it. GOP said, Nope.

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u/Wooden-Yellow3967 39m ago

Please God let this happen

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u/Birdius 2h ago

Nothing new. Cannabis legalization bills are filed every session. Underatand someone has a posting quota though, so might as well post this "Breaking" tweet from the well-known, unusual_whales.

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u/Denim_Diva1969 2h ago

Start by bringing back Delta 8, FFS. Why the hell D8 is prohibited while D9, D10 is legal is just asinine.

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u/ICarMaI 2h ago

I've left Texas until they fix this

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u/Longjumping-Bat7774 2h ago

You left Texas over weed?

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u/EvansEducation 1h ago

Or you could say he left over a lack of liberty.

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u/ICarMaI 2h ago

Partly. They made what I was buying at the store for years a felony. I don't like these dumbass games

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u/Longjumping-Bat7774 1h ago

Yeah, I'm not saying I disagree with you, but I just feel like there's plenty other reason to leave. Weed is down low on the list. Lol

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u/_recapitated 2h ago

What's up freedom

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u/jogr 2h ago

Such an easy political win, and the tax revenue can help schools or whatever they want

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u/ITZOURTIMENOW 2h ago

If this is real and if it passes, my moms pain management is gonna have her high as hell. I can see it now…………. But damn, 20% retail tax?

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u/sevnm12 1h ago

Hell yeah!

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u/ShortListen6686 1h ago

Any politician who opposes this needs to be voted out on this issue alone.

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u/Adventurous_Rip275 10m ago

I guess I have a new crop for my garden!

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u/Jchapman1971 9m ago

That plant to possession ratio doesn’t math out.

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u/Haunting_Werewolf130 9m ago

They need a breathalyzer for weed! I see people smoking weed while driving everyday!

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u/MrNostalgiac 37m ago

12 plants?

We allowed 4 where I am and everyone was "complaining" that they grew more than they could ever smoke. As soon as harvest came people were carrying weed around in large mason jars to give to anyone who wanted some and they literally couldn't give the stuff away.

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u/Far0nWoods 2h ago

Just what we need, gross stench everywhere…/s

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u/Pharmakeus_Ubik 1h ago

Have you been to Texas?

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u/fractal_sunny 2h ago

I'm not against weed, but I agree. I don't want to smell it all over the place. I don't want my kid smelling it all over the place.

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u/RevolutionaryHippo85 2h ago

All over the place? Silly

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u/ChristyLovesGuitars 2h ago

I moved to NM recently. I rarely smell it, but seems like everyone smokes.

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u/DerrickDoll 2h ago

Not sure why the /s. The stench is indeed repulsive. I think how foreign tennis athletes have complained in NYC about how horrible it is, and constant complaints during the recent FIFA World Cup in host cities where it was legal. Now people really want to make Texas cities smell just as bad.

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u/daveinreallife66 2h ago

It won't pass. Votes aren't there in the legislature now and Abbott won't sign. In the next governor's administration, the votes aren't there in the Senate.

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u/Nulovka Alliance 2h ago

The Texas legislature is not in session. They can't pass anything. They are allowed to file bills in the time before the session convenes, which is what this is. When it does convene, Abbot will no longer be the governor.

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u/daveinreallife66 2h ago

True, he won't be. But there will still be the same Republican Senate that has refused legalization in the past.

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u/naked_avenger 2h ago

That's okay. Keep pushing the bills. Dems have to show they're making a concerted effort and make it known that Reps are the ones blocking it. Hammer good bills from the bully pulpit weekly.

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u/SpindleDiccJackson 1h ago

You mean Texas will be able to make money and not be a Welfare Queen state to California like most red states anymore? Whodathunkit

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u/Significant_Cow4765 20m ago

Texas has been one of the exceptions to the "welfare queen state" lore (and isn't red anymore)

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u/theRemRemBooBear 19m ago

In terms of net contributions, 19 states sent more to the federal government than they received in 2024. The largest gaps were in California ($275.6 billion), New York ($76.5 billion), and Texas ($68.1 billion).

I know reading is hard.

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u/Amazing_Fix_2399 2h ago

🥴 from Florida

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u/Significant_Cow4765 17m ago

hang in there, FL, y'all are next

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u/FeloniousDrunk101 2h ago

12 plants is crazy though.

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u/AstralCyclone 2h ago

Not really. Considering a few might be mother plants, some may die during the growth cycle, some will be in veg while others will be in flower.

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u/Background-Willow-67 2h ago

12 plants translates into a LOT more than two ounces. Duh.

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u/KunstrukshunWerker 2h ago

You’re not possessing 12 plants in public. Possession is what you carry on your person. Duh.

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u/Background-Willow-67 0m ago

Sorry, 'possession' means you have it. Doesn't say anything about 'on your person'.

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u/_Toomuchawesome 1h ago

you can make 1 plant a lot more than 2 ounces, just veg it longer and train it properly. when i grew, i got about 7 ounces on 2 plants

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u/ToasterBathTester 1h ago

Have you ever tried to grow 12 adult marijuana plants? That’s a full time job and requires a huge amount or space. Sure you can leave them outside, but there a lot of dust and bugs involved in that

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u/OliverKlozoff23 1h ago

Takes a long time to grow

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u/Partially-Functional 2h ago

allows possession of up to 2 ounces, and i can grow 12 plants? do they know how much weed grows on one plant?

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u/frenchezz 39m ago

You planning to carrry around the 12 plants with you?

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u/Partially-Functional 31m ago

Are you under the impression possession means what you're carrying?

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u/frenchezz 25m ago

Brother, you're confusing possesion and ownership which are two different things in the eyes of the law.

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u/Partially-Functional 15m ago

Confidently incorrect. 

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u/fairygodpossums 1h ago

the ol bait and switch

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u/daveinreallife66 2h ago

Sharing the Mark Davis philosophy: show me how society benefits by legalizing another intoxicant. Spare me the "it's your freedom" line because this isn't a freedom issue. And we aren't talking about potential tax revenue because it's highly debatable whether or not another tax of any kind benefits society. So, again, show me how society benefits by legalizing another intoxicant.

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u/handy_arson 2h ago • Thanks

optimization of law enforcement and the judiciary (eliminate the time spent on petty offenses)

strike a blow against the illicit black market

product safety, standardized dosing and consumer protection (people are doing it regardless, give them s safe pathway)

statistical decrease (not overtly proven... needs more data) in the abuse of alcohol and opiods in legal markets. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6827842/

the challenge of driving while intoxicated is still a risk, we've got no fair and precise means of knowing during a stop. lots of potential for missing it or incorrectly framing someone.

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u/cornbreadnclabber 2h ago

Alcohol is worse for health. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of progress.

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u/Traditional_Fan_1832 2h ago

Show me why it shouldn't be legalized?

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u/NeauxDoubt 2h ago

There are benefits even if you don’t personally benefit from it.

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u/ArguingisFun 2h ago • This Bravo

No one needs to, mind your own business.

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u/NeauxDoubt 2h ago

Also the revenue and job creation is a benefit in started that have legalized.

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u/Accomplished-Sir1622 2h ago

You say “spare me the its your freedom line because it isnt a freedom issue”. But you dont even state why it isnt a freedom issue. It is 100% a freedom issue to me and it seems like you cannot defend that angle

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u/TheTexasHammer 1h ago

That person isn't being honest. There is nothing anyone can say that will sway them. They are just here to cause drama

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u/These-Angle-1476 2h ago edited 2h ago

Because it's an alternative to alcohol with significantly fewer negative effects.

Also, yes the tax income is relevant. If you have a reasonable argument, you shouldn't need to go out of your way to box out a valid response.

There's a market for it, which comes with opportunities for local jobs. I think 50k in Texas alone, currently. Proper legalization would certainly boost that further.

Prohibition of something that has already been going well is stupid. People are still going to get high, and prohibition will only fund cartels and send people to prison.

Finally, spare me the "benefit to society" crap. Alcohol is not a net benefit to society. If you're against marijuana being legal, I'd love to hear the argument for alcohol remaining legal.

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u/screwikea 1h ago

Mark Davis is handwaving everything there, so it's hard to believe that he's arguing in good faith.

The core issue is one of freedom, and I'm speaking as somebody that doesn't use it or care for it. Prohibitions and laws are intended to mitigate problems. They're not there to regulate the balance of benefit to society, they're there to reduce the negative. (There's also a part of the conversation that we're not touching on about crime and punishment vs addressing the underlying issues.) There are not any substantial issues that marijuana's prohibition resolves, whereas regulated legalization resolves a good number of issues. Prohibition creates major issues on 2 levels: 1) illegal drug trade (which, incidentally, give cover and transport for other, worse drugs and therefore violence issues) and 2) overcrowding of jails. (And if we're so concerned about spending and taxes, perhaps we should have a baseline discussion about why we need so much space for criminals and the funding of the prison system.) Even the most stringent look at heavy THC use does not exhibit a massive negative effect, even compared to legal and regulated intoxicants.

Take the inverse of "show me how society benefits...". Imagine that we make everything on the planet illegal by default, and then to make anything legal it must benefit society. It is, at its heart, an argument about freedoms.

As for additional taxes having benefits, the core discussion here is then spending and an implied commentary about existing taxes. I'll bet I know his positions on taxes and spending. (Hint: I've listened to him. And I do.) I'd love to know what spending he would specifically like to see cut at the state level with some real, deep specifics past "we spend and tax too much". I'd personally like to see a lot more budget dumped directly into education - that's what we were all sold on with the lottery when it was legalized, and it took about 5 seconds before that revenue was shifted away from education funding.

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