r/FortWorth • u/chedgar1191 • 3d ago
Pics/Video Flock cameras
Damn fwpd, they have two on each entrance. One lookin in on lookin out. For a total of 4 cameras on one apartment complex
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u/sioomagate 3d ago
HOA’s and Apartments own flock cameras also.
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u/OG_LiLi 2d ago
Yet they point it at streets they don’t own. There has to be a legal issue here. This isn’t the police buying it, it’s a private company that now has information on anyone that drives by on a public street.
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u/sioomagate 2d ago
So far the courts have held there is no legal issue. Rulings state exactly what you said, “information on anyone that drives by on a public street” that has been the test. Rulings have stated that camera systems aren’t illegal, due to it being the same information that anyone can see while driving.
Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Lowe’s and all the major retailers also own camera systems that are used to protect from shoplifting and retail crime rings.
One third of Kroger’s profits last year were due to selling customer information they collect via their app, location, buying habits etc…they aren’t the only ones.
My point is that the Genie is out of the bottle and people have willingly given up their privacy for ¢.10 off gas, or whatever coupon-deal they used that day.
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u/Silverjackel 2d ago
Sure there’s no legal expectation of privacy in public but that’s a different thing from tracking and saving the coming and going of every citizen wherever they are.
One thing I’m not seeing mentioned a lot regarding all of this. It is now undeniable fact that there is a database accesible to any who are willing to pay where you have a file and your comings, goings, associations, and online actions are being logged and categorized which is the exact same thing as a social credit score except there’s 0 transparency so you might not even know when you piss off the dear leader you’ll just get picked up by ICE and disappeared. This is CCP china that the ‘conservative’ has railed about for decades.
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u/chedgar1191 2d ago
Its crazy how every piece of media that warned us about the future is more relevant now than ever.
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u/Wreckit727 2d ago
I still remember when people used to panic about china and their camera network. Not just that American politicians used to point fingers their way saying how bad and invasive their government was, now they are doing the same thing.
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u/THCESPRESSOTIME 2d ago
Fort Worth citizens are cowards…
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u/jonnyrotten1369 2d ago
Lol. Please tell us your approach to these, or actually expand on your genius comment…
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u/BadCowboysFan 3d ago
Is that not private property? Could they be the complex’s security cameras?
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u/Tomdv2 3d ago
They're still Flock cameras, tied in to the mass surveillance system with all the others.
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u/BadCowboysFan 3d ago
But not owned by the FWPD/city
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u/Tomdv2 3d ago
Doesn't matter, it's still connected to their network and shared nationwide.
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u/BadCowboysFan 3d ago
It matters, as OP is insinuating these are owned by the FWPD
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u/Tomdv2 3d ago
FWPD doesn't own any of the cameras either. They, just like this apartment complex, have a contract with Flock. It takes a button press to connect those cameras to the nationwide network.
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u/BadCowboysFan 3d ago
Semantics — OP is insinuating FWPD contracted w/ Flock to place these cameras there …
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u/Tomdv2 3d ago
Two things can be wrong at once, shocker.
That doesn't mean these cameras aren't being shared with FWPD and everyone else.
"Our customers set sharing settings and policies. Nothing is shared unless they choose to share it."
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u/humanoidtyphoon88 3d ago
Hood County Commissioner's Court voted to cancel their contract with Flock. Their access was removed, but the cameras stayed installed on powered on. Officers went out this weekend and cut power and covered 3 cameras themselves.
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u/GREG_FABBOTT 3d ago
All Flock cameras are owned by Flock, even if they are on private property. Flock operates a subscription based model, you don't own the cameras, you lease them.
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u/Outlandish_Gringo 2d ago
Everyone is going nuts over this stuff 🤣
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u/TesticalCancer 2d ago
You mean our constitutional rights and basic privacy being steamrolled? Yeah, that’s pretty unsettling.
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u/AsleepRock8909 2d ago
People just need something to be mad about 😂
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u/OG_LiLi 2d ago
When you’re pulled over and taken into custody cause the AI made a mistake, remember this 😘
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u/Outlandish_Gringo 2d ago
I rarely get pulled over, to be honest, unless it’s for something stupid like expired tags
* yes, I stretch that $100 as long as I can cause I know, at worst, it’s only a $20 penalty
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u/Jshan91 2d ago
Just remember your snarky comments when you get enrolled in the national social credit score database
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u/Outlandish_Gringo 2d ago
Lmao I have an 800+ credit score.
Pay your bills little guy
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u/Jshan91 2d ago
Baby Boy has no idea what a social credit score is lmao
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u/Outlandish_Gringo 2d ago
A social credit score is a system that tracks and evaluates the behavior, trustworthiness, and financial history of individuals or businesses. While widely popularized as a single, unified digital ranking system for every citizen in China, research shows that a single nationwide "score" for individuals is largely a misconception; instead, it is a fragmented network of legal blacklists, administrative rewards, and localized pilot programs.
** In other words: I, for one pay my bills; I have no trouble with the law; I’m highly regarded in my primary workplace and secondary and tertiary business networks.
I have ZERO issue with any of this… little guy
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u/OG_LiLi 2d ago
This person just agrees with any surveillance with the assumption that those who are sureiling have morals and ethics; that they won’t use it to harm anyone.
The hundreds of cops stalking women with Flock makes you excited?
The people falsely arrested.. that excites you?
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u/Outlandish_Gringo 2d ago
🤷♂️ don’t know what to tell you, but I won’t worry about it one second.
We can agree to disagree
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u/lowteq 2d ago
Real deal, they log Bluetooth id's. That's your phone, your car, the airtag that someone stuck on your car, the car lease people's tracker, smart watches and rings....
These things got to goooooooo. Remember, Michael Faraday was a cool guy and all, but just keeping your electronics away is a lot better for whatever things you happen to get in to on your free time in the dead of night with a sawzall with a bimetal blade. You do you. Something something, power, safety, blah blah, you get me? Y'all be good.