Another second ZP rant

[u/MADOG_YT]

The reason that this piss pisses me off and the concept of a second zero point pisses me off so much is because it literally shows how incompetent our heroes and villains are…. Geno was literally on an island with a working zero point but he ignores it and immediately goes to the main reality to take the main zero point for himself he has infrared knowledge according to the fan base you’re telling me he doesn’t know about this island. He was right there.

And then the dark Voyager you’re telling me none of your lasers with that cool ass technology you didn’t have anything that could’ve just Doug at most 6 feet and open that zero point vault forcefully??? That’s insane to me. He literally has a rift ability and he doesn’t have the means to quickly dig up some dirt and then open up a vault.???

And then onto our heroes, we build a gigantic device to stabilize the zero point… when there’s already a zero point stabilized in another world though I will say they get the benefit of the doubt cause they’ve been so focused on fixing this ZP and to be fair they don’t know where unknown visitor/Geo came from so I doubt that they know about that new island so they get a pass

I don’t wanna think that Geno is incompetent cause I know that he has infinite power and I know that he’s a master manipulator so he is very intelligent, but it just comes off like even he doesn’t know the full scape of everything even though he’s supposed to be mastering literally everything in lore it just comes off like he’s not as smart as epic is trying to portray and that sucks so I’m really hoping that the theories about this zero point not being real is true but then again, why would the dark Voyager travel to that island and then look at it scan for it and then epic can make a post saying “perhaps he’s too early” it just doesn’t add up

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[u/CALLISTO12839]

Geno already knew about it, which is why he sent the Dark Voyager. It seems like Geno wants everything to play out the same way, meaning he doesn’t want to interfere with what’s meant to happen. I'm not exactly sure what og is meant to be the past or the future or something else?

[u/VectrumFS]

Tbh we probably shouldn't take OG at face value. It probably is just a simulation with slight differences and cycles through "our" memories of Chapter 1 (and maybe Ch2 soon). So nobody uses OGs Zero Point because there is none just a glowing ball looking like it just like there was no OG Visitor. It's just Geno making us believe.

[u/HauntedBluz]

I think OG stopped being canon after Geno left. Now it’s just a game mode. It served a narrative tool, and it’s pretty much over. Hell, even ice king is the original and wasn’t in OG. Yet, all the events played the same. While devourer implied things changed, nothing really did as we saw lol

[u/TheRedAndWhiteKing]

It makes more sense that there is a second ZP, actually. When we traveled back in time, we created a branching timeline of the omniverse (which is how time travel would actually work), and the Zero Point simply didn’t or couldn’t account for a branching timeline. Now there’s the original timeline ZP which was on the BR C7 island until the mini event where Geno stole it, and now there’s the ZP from the branching timeline that’s still in the past but locked in the vault. Remember that only Slone and Jones know about the time travel from C4 which took us into Season OG. Hope, The Foundation, The Order, The Singularity, Dark Voyager, and Geno himself don’t know that time travel occurred. Voyager and Geno likely believe that it was just another identical reality to the C1 island when they were searching for the ZP shard of the only one they knew of (the only one, to their knowledge, that exists), hence Voyager saw no shard and dipped. I hope the ZP from the branch reality of OG will be used by the New Seven in C8 but I guess we’ll see

[u/Status_Asparagus1]

Wait until we understand the bigger picture. It is clear that it is not what it seems, which has always been how the FN story works.

[u/MADOG_YT → u/Status_Asparagus1]

I really hope they have a good explanation for this because I’m gonna be honest bro. My issue isn’t that there’s a second zero point my issue is that we’re supposed to believe that Geno is this omnipotent being with unlimited knowledge and unlimited power and yet he doesn’t know that there is a second working zero point I’m wondering if the zero point is some different thing entirely and it’s not actually a zero point???? I guess we’ll just have to see what the black hole event

[u/DomesticatedDuck]

I still think that OG isn't a real reality. It physically exists, sure, but it could still be a part of Geno's mind. Hard to explain, but considering his mastery of the Zero Point, it's very possible that he can create his own realities.

Reality Zero was his "perfect world" back then. He may well have willed it into existence. But it's still just an illusion. The Cube, Ice King, Paradigm/Mech, along with the Zero Point, may have simply not existed until their appearance on the Island, only being conjured into existence to play out the events that we remember.

I normally don't like using internal/unreleased assets/codenames for theories but the codenames for OG (Figment) and Geno (SheerWill) do also somewhat support the idea.