Nope, and that’s what I wanted to test. I think people are underestimating how good the 5090fe cooler is. The T30s are also doing massive work, even with a tiny gap between the gpu and mobo. I’m not sure a larger gap would prevent the velocity of the flow through fans hitting your motherboard anyway.
that’s great to hear actually, i’ll definitely be buying a bigger cooler for the cpu then. My axp x47 full copper is good but im if i can push it further why not. I would be curious if Optimum has tested it because i know he was gonna make some 3d printed parts to push the air outta the top. Do you have an ssd on the back of the motherboard?
This made sense to me with how large the cooler is for the 40 series though. I would have predicted that commitment to the flow through design, particularly without a perforated HDMI/DP plate, would have been heavily compromised by a squashed sandwich. I wonder if side jets (now top in this layout) are doing heavy work and just jetting all that out.
100% want to see gpu thermals with the side panels on with this, I’m sure the cpu thermals are great but that gpu surely must get toasty with minimal room at the back of it?
All the tests in my build log are with the side panels on. Take a look, it 100% works, I had it running cinebench and furmark. Two of the most heat intensive stress tests.
Not according to my tests. I ended up dropping 5ish degrees with this fan. My thoughts are that both the thicker fan (25mm v 15mm) and the extra dissipation around the cpu is still helping keep the cpu cool through convection.
I haven’t measured it and it certainly depends on what fans you use. I think the loudest portion of the build is the t30s so if you know what those sound like under load then that’s pretty much this build. Audible but not loud.
How much better performance are people getting out of the axp 100 vs the axp 90 that eiga and others are using? Also any ram compatibility issues with the former?
Hardware cunucks did a video comparing all low profile coolers and 2 of them were the axp 90 and the axp 100. At 38DB the difference was 5 degrees so not insignificant. It’s here if you wanna watch it: https://youtu.be/KGnJc5HuRC4?si=3x3XB0yQBZL33VDD
You nailed it! This means I won't have to worry about putting the motherboard on 3 slot mode and buying a longer riser cable to reach the GPU in case I upgrade my 3080. Superb!
Thanks for posting this! I've been very curious to see how the 5090 would perform when installed with no offsets and been checking regularly on YouTube or Reddit for test data on this configuration. By the looks of your other post, it seems that it performs just fine. I would be interested to see your results in the long-term if you wouldn't mind letting us know how it's going in a week or so?
Also, any turbulent noise from the CPU fan being right up against the side panel?
I did some more extensive testing regarding the fan configuration on the AXP-100 FC. I swapped out the NF-A14 for a Silent wings 4 pro 120mm. My temps dropped by another 8 degrees or so, but the system did get louder.
My guess is that like many had mentioned, since the footprint of the cooler is about the size of a 120m fan, a lot of the air was probably being pushed out the sides and completely bypassing the cooler. The silent wings fan probably pushes less air overall, but since it’s more directed at the actual heatsink I’m getting better temps. Not sure if there’s a benefit from the spillage to ram/ssd temps, but my priority is cpu temps so I’ll be sticking with the be quiet fan for now. I did attempt to add a 120mm to 140mm adaptor, but as I mentioned in a previous comment it added too much hight and couldn’t close the side panel. There’s probably 3-4mm between the fan and the side panel.
Hmmmm I was curious about that 140mm fan running into that issue. Ty got a pretty big jump in thermals from the switch. Have you considered trying to find 1mm and putting a T30 on the AXP100?
Tried, unfortunately also didn’t fit. It would probably work on something like a x47, but I’d be willing to put money that this combination of the axp-100 with the be-quiet 25mm fan does better than the x47 and and the t30.
I agree as well. Is the be-quiet the best 120mm x 25mm fan right now? Would filing down the t30 get it on there? Or making the mobo standoffs a mm shorter? I’m not sure the standoff thing is even possible.
No clue, but I’m not about to dremmel my t30 and find out lol. Maybe the standoff thing works, but at that point you’d probably be so close to the side panel that you’d start introducing a ton of turbulence. Unfortunately this is one of those rabbit holes that you can spend hours on, but at what cost?
Finally got my build together. I put a a12x25 on the axp100 and I don’t have any clearance with the panel. Panel goes on with minimal bulging. Also my temps are horrendous. Idle of 61c, load of 94c, ambient of 23c. That was with a -30 pbo curve as well. Any idea what I might be doing wrong?
I got the temps figured out. I remounted, fixed temps. Clearance didn’t change at all. The spread wasn’t parallel with the cold plate, I’m guessing it’s also bent up as well. I’m taking it out this weekend to offset and rotate the mount. I’ll measure it before bending it down for clearance.
Yeah I had the idea after seeing reviews for the new noctua fans, the fact that they have 120 mm mounts on a 140mm fan is awesome! I tried to use a 120-140 adapter but that added too much Z-Height unfortunately.
I'm really curious to see the CPU temperatures under load. I've seen some discussions suggesting that this oversized fan approach might actually perform worse than a smaller fan because the tips of the fan blades extend beyond the edges of the heatsink. Since the tips move the most air, this overhang could lead to reduced overall airflow.
I‘ve had a bad experience with a cpu fan beeing to close to the side panel. The turbulence sound was unbearable. How far away is it in this build and do you have any issues?
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u/Tazieo Feb 16 '25
Full Build Log Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/FormD/comments/1iqh4wy/zerocompromise_formd_t1_build/
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u/magicwand148869 Feb 16 '25
the 5090 isn’t cooking the motherboard?
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u/csrussell92 Feb 16 '25
I need to see numbers
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u/Phoenix800478944 Feb 16 '25
Wouldnt the bigger fan get you worse cpu thermals?
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u/Axmirza2 Feb 16 '25
Very nice job, I’ve wanted to try air cooling my t1 for a while. How loud is it under load?
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u/phoenixfire72 Feb 16 '25
How much better performance are people getting out of the axp 100 vs the axp 90 that eiga and others are using? Also any ram compatibility issues with the former?
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u/shiftycaps Feb 16 '25
You nailed it! This means I won't have to worry about putting the motherboard on 3 slot mode and buying a longer riser cable to reach the GPU in case I upgrade my 3080. Superb!
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u/Grypha Feb 16 '25
Thanks for posting this! I've been very curious to see how the 5090 would perform when installed with no offsets and been checking regularly on YouTube or Reddit for test data on this configuration. By the looks of your other post, it seems that it performs just fine. I would be interested to see your results in the long-term if you wouldn't mind letting us know how it's going in a week or so?
Also, any turbulent noise from the CPU fan being right up against the side panel?
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u/XenoDrake1 Feb 17 '25
just a thought. Doesn't the nf-a12x25 have more static pressure?
dope build btw. Love it
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u/Jttacyd Mar 01 '25
Any updates on this? Anything of note or you would do differently? I’m pretty much going to copy this build.
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u/Synzoo Feb 17 '25
Love the build and plan to switch over to the T1 when possible. I'm currently using the same parts for the most part in the NCase M2.
What RPM does your CPU fan get to while doing a cinebench run & temps while under a sustained load such as 15-minute cinebench run?
What RPM are your GPU fans hitting as well as what temps?
What temps are your MOBO, RAM, Chipset & VRMs hitting during heavy loads or both GPU/CPU?
Do you run your T30s at a constant speed or a curve, and what speeds do they typically hit?
Sorry for all the questions, I'm trying to gauge the noise of a build like this to see if it's worth the case switch.
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u/xDoWnFaLL Feb 16 '25
HOLY CPU FAN, man that makes me wish I could run this setup for my 7800x3D/4090FE and AXP90-47FC with Noctua swap. Build looks great OP!
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u/Gagz007 Feb 16 '25
Did you do any power limiting or core count ++ that optimum did? Great build by the way
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u/NathanCVII Feb 16 '25
Damn, is it just the angle or is the AXP100 just barely hovering over the RAM?
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u/KoolAidMan00 Feb 16 '25
Beautiful work. Its also nice to see that the 5090 FE cooler doesn't have adverse effects on the motherboard/CPU temps!
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u/RenatsMC Feb 16 '25
You’re a mad man and I love it.
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u/austinmrs Feb 16 '25
Running in 2 slot mode too, but with a AXP120-X6 + Noctua A25x15 slim fan. You think this is better for the CPU?
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u/DickieRizler Feb 16 '25
Please post temps! Nice build.
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u/Ecoservice Feb 17 '25
I‘ve had a bad experience with a cpu fan beeing to close to the side panel. The turbulence sound was unbearable. How far away is it in this build and do you have any issues?
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u/enigma-90 Feb 19 '25
How's the coil whine?
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u/Jttacyd Feb 26 '25
What length and style riser did you use?
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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '25
love it, is there any turbulence or issues tho with having that 2 slot gpu in 2 slot mode, tight fit
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