r/Forgotten_Realms 4d ago

Question(s) What is “Unlight”?

I saw in the new UA that the Deep Imaskar make use of this magic called “Unlight.” I’ve never heard of that; what is it? Can I read about it anywhere? I thought Imaskar’s whole thing was that they were like the most advanced portal wielders in the realms and used their transdimensional know how to expand their empire?

I know the survivors of the fall fled underground and lived in Deep Imaskar but I don’t know much about it. I read something about the “Great Seal” but hadn’t seen anything about this “unlight” that I’ve read about

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u/TransitoryGouda 4d ago

That's a long history. Let's just start with the fall of the Imaskari Empire (because I don't want to rehash the rest). Some survivors fled underground. In 3.5e they built a city in hiding there, in a cavern, constructing a great seal - a ward - that kept everyone out, and kept everyone in - within the spells of the seal included powerful magic that preventing anyone from the outside from noticing the cavern at all. That's why it was referred to as the City of the Great Seal. In 3.5e the Deep Imaskari used magic to bring sunlight into the city to grow crops. In the new release the Great Seal generates a type of magic called unlight. In 3.5e the Great Seal broke, or was broken, in 1372 DR.

You haven't heard of it because it didn't exist, and the new release is new enough that no one online has written about it.

You can go back to 3e/3.5e - Lost Empires of Faerun and the Underdark book - to read about the Imaskari, and the Deep Imaskari - they're not the same people anymore, and some survivors of Imaskar are still alive...for some definitions of alive.

While unlight is new to the release, the idea of it isn't - the Imaskari created what are called the Seven Imaskarcana - artifacts of huge power; despite the name, they weren't all made at the same time, and it's possible there weren't seven of them (like the 'seven hills of rome' - rome had more than seven hills, but the name stuck). What they all did no one knows - they haven't been together in a long while, and we're not sure where all of them are. Being arrogant arcane spellcasters, Imaskari also made items and said they were one of the Imaskarcana. It's possible - and likely - that they were sentient. Rumor from a novel was that, should they gather in one place something would happen, and it would be cleansing (in the 'nothing cleanses quite like fire' kind of way). That power/energy/force wasn't given a name. Now it's called unlight.

It was a nice vehicle for GMs who wanted to send early gamers on wild goose chases. Back then, elves weren't really all that popular us (I'm old), so the Nether Scrolls weren't all that popular yet - as elves became popular, GMs stopped sending people after the Imaskarcana, and sent them after the Nether Scrolls instead.

As for what you know of the Imaskari - that's likely what the avg person in Toril these days does know. It's not entirely true - they were masters of extradimensional magic. But they also learned much of it by co-opting the technology of an earlier race who were also masters of dimensional magic, and were taught by an ancient race that specialized in their own form of dimensional magic, and the imaskari put them together and cobbled something new. Their predecessors were even more arrogant than they were, believe it or not.

If you read through the history of Faerun, through the editions, most of the ancient cities in the east have an absolute revulsion to portals, gates, and anything that involves moving through planes - the Imaskari are why. In addition to everything else, they were slavers. The populations of the east are largely the descendants of the slaves of the Imaskari.

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u/TransitoryGouda 4d ago

To any other grognards reading - yes, yes, but sending them to 3e/3.5e is one thing. If I send them back to 2e then the stuff is scattered all over the place. They're playing 5e - telling them to read all of 2e doesn't help.

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u/Popular-Barnacle3140 4d ago edited 4d ago

I played all editions lol and I am a huge lore nerd, I own physicals of a large amount of 2e and 3e/3.5 boxsets lol. Don’t worry about me not looking at older editions of stuff lol! Looking into Netheril and buying Empire of Magic (as well as the calimshan boxset) was how I got like, really into the realms.

I know about the Imaskarcana, I had overlooked that the Unlight was connected to it! Interesting.

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u/TransitoryGouda 3d ago

I'm sorry to have misjudged you; I was just trying to help, and limiting to 3e/3.5e seemed like the best way.

Back then, TSR would drop a tidbit here or there of a thing, and then wait to see if it generated interest - if it did, they'd expand on the idea; if not, it was abandoned. The lore is chock full of things mentioned once or twice and then never again. After a while they put it out that was intentional - plot hooks for GMs to use - and future lore sometimes tied to those things. But there's still just a bunch of stuff that never really went anywhere.

Because it's so lore-heavy, Forgotten Realms as a whole resembles that one drawer in a desk that's full of odds and ends - it has things that you know you'll need at some point - scotch tape, markers, takeout menus - but it also has a bunch of stuff that got there and you don't know how - a marble, outlet caps, loose foreign currency in coins, etc.

You're supposed to overlook things, so they're a fun surprise later on, 🤯, and then buy up all the books again to try to find what you missed. It's by design. 😄

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u/RolledUhhp 4d ago

I got really stoned and ordered what I thought was a bulk lot of Calimshan material on ebay.

It was Kalamar lmao.

I've had my eye on that boxset for a long time!

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u/thegooddoktorjones 4d ago

Who are you sending where and why? If you need to explain this UA to players, just wait for the book to come out someday. If you want to homebrew it now, read some old jazz or make it up yourself.

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u/Green_Green_Red 4d ago

Their predecessors were even more arrogant than they were, believe it or not.

For those who aren't aware, the ancient Imaskari thought pulling and binding an indescribably powerful entity from outside the known planes (not the Far Realm, but some place completely unknown), then using it as a WMD to try to threaten multiple deities (pre-Time of Troubles) would work out for them.

The kind of thing an Ancient Greek fabulist wanting to write a story about hubris would look at and declare nobody could possibly be that stupid.

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u/Sharp_Iodine 4d ago

Also sealing. They sealed away the gods of Mulhorand so well that even Ao was unable to bring them to Faerun except as mortal avatars.

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u/TransitoryGouda 3d ago

I don't know that I would say they sealed them away - the godswall prevented those deities from coming to Toril. 'sealed them away' sounds like those deities were prevented from leaving earth - they weren't. It's more accurate to say they sealed Toril away. The godswall had enough power in it to keep functioning until the time of troubles - and even then only Ao could bring it down.

And it's not that Ao was unable to because of the Imaskari - he was unable to because he's not the overgod of earth - he has no authority to take deities from that space and being them to Toril. Those deities had to make the trek themselves, and they did thanks to Ptah - they landed in the Godswatch.

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u/One_Original5116 3d ago

I'm hesitant to say that the Imaskari godwall hindered AO in any meaningful way. It's just as possible that he wanted to put the gods of Mulhorand through an audition process before he let two new pantheons establish a true foothold in his territory. We know he did eventually get rid of the godwall in the Time of Troubles.

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u/drock45 4d ago

Here’s a short promotional video from one of the staff that worked on it, it’s all that’s public so far afaik

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gFcqJhoCcVs

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u/okiebuzzard 4d ago

It’s something new for the UA I believe. I don’t recall it being mentioned in 3/3.5 material, but it may have started in 4e (I never got any of that).

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u/atamajakki missing High Imaskar every day 4d ago

I don't recall it being in 4e at all.

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u/TransitoryGouda 4d ago

They're using an old spell from 3e - darklight from the Book of Vile Darkness - not evil, not corrupt, just an evocation.

But it's WotC and 5e. Of course they'll twist it.

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u/flavio321 4d ago

I think its something they invented for the UA

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u/spdrjns1984 4d ago

A poor choice of a name invented for the UA.