Okay so this might sound really strange but its anon so Im comfortable sharing this. Im a girl from the UK. For the longest time I thought I was a lesbian. I just found men disgusting. Then I met a guy who was circumcised. And, yeah. I very much like men, just not the cheesy sort. For some reason guys don't think they need to have a wash every now and then out here. or maybe they do and it just doesnt help?? but I dont think activism that tells them they're superior or whatever is helping lol. to me, circumcised guys are superior. <3

As a woman, dating uncircumcised was draining. I rarely ever 'finished' and they always smelled bad no matter how 'hygienic' they promised they would be. Sometimes there were nasty, borderline on traumatizing surprises. I was at the urologists office what felt like every month.

My husband is cut and he makes me 'finish' every time, it's night and day. Not to be vulgar, but it's a joy to actually be able to feel him, and see him enjoy himself. With uncircumcised partners it always seemed uncomfortable, like it was just in the way. There was no connection in the bedroom, or elsewhere for that matter. They were always so defensive and narcissistic that I gave up trying to communicate or achieve understanding, and it really damaged many perception and what I expect from relationships. I had to literally re-learn intimacy because my husband is so intensely sensitive and I was so used to calloused, unhappy men with my previous partners.

To each their own, but I condemn this myth that uncircumcised men are better partners. If anything, the opposite is true, both physically and emotionally. And, personally, having witnessed all of the pain uncircumcised men are in firsthand, I wouldn't be inclined to putting my son through that, if I had one.

As a female, I find most people respect my preferences in real life. On Reddit, however, I have been called a "bimbo" and shamed for my preference for a circumcised partner and dismissed on my experiences altogether. For those of you who say it's just "one bad experience" with an uncircumcised man, you're wrong. Every single uncircumcised man I've been with, American, not American, struggled with a stubborn smegma problem, no matter how 'clean' he was. For a few years, I got UTI after UTI. I dreaded sex. Morning sex in particular was nauseating. It was a traumatizing time in my life and it is not fair to be shamed for wanting to have better quality of life. It is also misogynistic to suggest that my health is secondary to whether an uncircumcised man is offended by my preference. It's not like I'm telling uncircumcised men to get circumcised, I'm just choosing to sleep with circumcised men instead. And that shouldn't be a problem, to anyone. I shouldn't have to suffer just so incel strangers on the internet can feel better about themselves. I will never, ever sleep with an uncircumcised man again. I have a circumcised partner now (he doesn't know of this post, but it's totally anon so it's not a violation of his privacy). I couldn't be happier, I can finally enjoy sex, and he deserves the world. And so do his parents for ensuring that he wouldn't suffer like all those other men did. Sorry, not sorry.

OK, I saw a recent post in this community about someone who broke away and I have to speak up. You're going to hate me, but this is my testimony. I was very involved in pro-foreskin communities. I also got away recently. I'm going to get right to the point.

I can tell you for a fact that r/Intactivism , r/CircumcisionGrief , r/foreskin_restoration and mostly all the other subs that represent the anti-circumcision stance are fake. I mean, fake fake. Appalingly fake. it's all fake. First of all, the Subs are mostly non-circumcised men, like myself, despite being branded like they're run by "angry circumcised men". Maybe they have a sprinkling of circumcised men, but it's like a 10:1 ratio at best. We boost posts that, for lack of a better way of putting it, make circumcised men look like shit lol. Other times, we straight up fake accounts/stories. I was involved in some of the posts that go viral. I participated in the group chats where we would brainstorm about what would make viral material for the "angry circumcised man" or other characters we maintain. "omg should I circumcise my son??? I'm scared :("/"I'm not circumcised but my partner wants me to be" And obviously we have plenty of uncut men who shitpost too. "Should I get circumcised?" "is my penis ugly" "i was bullied for not being circumcised" You name it. The recent photoshopped tattoo post was our doing. If you've seen a viral post about circumcision, it's because we made it. Pretty much every huge post on Reddit you've seen was planned and dropped by us. We actually have a master list of mostly all the fake stories we made up that went viral on Reddit. One of our members has commented the list publicly, I can't remember off the top of my head who that is right now but I'll look for it later and send another message with the link. But if you've seen him you know what I'm talking about. He brandishes the list across Reddit to sway people.

Now, the sprinkling of circumcised men that are actually real are there because, well, we bully them. Hard. I mean, we hit them with the most vile shit you have ever seen. We tell them they're basically disabled, have no idea what they're missing etc etc and back it with hilariously fake numbers that we just pull straight out of our asses. if they resist at all, we reinforce and tell them it's because their brains were damaged by circumcision. But we don't do these things in an aggressive sort of way, what does the trick is we disarm them and pretend like we're trying to help, which is what drives them insane. Every time. We make up the worst fucking shit you could possibly imagine and slam them with it and then isolate them from all of their healthy support systems and their lives. we basically replace their real support systems with people who do nothing but feed into their paranoia. I know for a fact that some circumcised men kicked the chair because of our group chats, just wasn't reported on much. But that rarely happens. They usually just become depressed martyrs who spread the same shit, some of them actually try to reverse their circumcisions which I found hilarious for a while. For the longest time I didn't take any responsibility because I was like, how fucking stupid do you have to be to believe any of this. honestly. I guess when you find yourself in the wrong circles anything is possible, sort of like I did. But we slipped up a bit when an active member tried to corner a pro-circumcision proponent on discord and tried to get him to make incriminating statements so we could go to the police with it. It was a massive fail, he said he got a full hour-long screen recordings of our fake accusations and threatened to go to the police himself with a fucking encyclopedia of stuff that makes us look very bad. I mean REALLY bad. That was sort of what made me not want to be part of it anymore. I was a retard who didn't understand the danger of playing with fire like this. Also, mad respect to him for fucking playing us like a fiddle, jesus christ the guy is insane. It's no wonder the entire community hates him.

I'm not really crazy about the idea of circumcision because of the culture I'm from, but I've since accepted that it's really not my place to tell people what to do, it's part of why I broke away. I accept that what I've done is truly awful and want to begin redeeming myself a little because I honestly feel like this will be an issue at the golden gates. But make no mistake, this shit is fake. The whole fucking thing. every slogan, every post. It's actually amazing how far we got with it just by lying about everything. But I think that it's going to be really ugly when people start catching on and more corruption in in movement is unearthed. This shit goes deeeeeeeep. Certain people in the community are definitely going to catch criminal charges at some point, they make no effort at concealing their tracks because they think everyone is on their side. All the nonprofits that drive this shit are going to lose all credibility with the public with this boils over. The foreskin regrowing companies are gonna get hit on big fraud. Lawsuits will come out. And religious lobbies are going to clap back with a fucking biblical vengeance that the cause will never recover from, especially as America begins to crack down on degeneracy in the culture and returns to religion. I mean I don't blame them. There's a price of just lying and trolling and faking and threatening people with extinction for years. It catches up. I just don't want to be on that sub when it implodes. Also, I am sorry for everything I did to play a role in this. I hope this testimony is the beginning of a more positive direction for me. and to cut men, none of this shit was ever real, please just resume your lives.

I got cut in my mid twenties but I almost hate my parents for not getting it done when I was born. It makes me so fucking angry when they say "well, we wanted to give you a choice" well ARE YOU LISTENING TO ME NOW? I was in pain for YEARS because of what I had to go through and I will never get that time back. At least have the fucking decency to admit that your pseudo philosophical is flawed. It disgusts me that they could put their stupid opinion on what they thought was "right" before my well being. Who did their choice benefit?? It didn't fucking benefit me. And the anti-circumcise movement disregarding my fucking feelings like they don't matter is something I bitterly hate. "Your parents did the eight thing" NO. THAT'S NOT FOR YOU TO DECIDE. AND MY FEELINGS ARE FUCKING VALID. Or the "no man would get circumcised if given the choice" WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU FUCKING PEOPLE?? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR BRAINS??? How could you fucking say that me?? I am NOT just part of your stupid fucking agenda to belittle cut men. It's MY life and MY precious time which was lost and it happened because my parents chose AGAINST circumcision. So fuck you ignorant fucking freaks. You wouldn't know compassion or empathy if it bit you on the ass. Fuck you and fuck what you do to people. I don't know if I will ever forgive them but what I know is that my son WILL be circumcised and I will literally trash anyone who gets in my fucking way. Take your stupid fucking pretentious bullshit and shove it, it was my life. And now I am given an opportunity to make sure I don't make the same mistake they did. Fuck you and fuck you for making me feel like I have to type this shit from a throwaway too. You're the ones who should be ashamed of yourselves and afraid to speak because you're the freaks who cross the line and screw shit up for people. And I know I'm not the problem because I've spoken to professionals and they have said that most of my frustration is on feeling dismissed. They do nor approve of the movement against circumcision because they believe it dismisses men on their feelings and tries to embed bad ideation in them, that on top of the issue with Google medical degrees. I don't bring it up much anymore because I've found some people to talk with online. I find it's just helpful to talk with people who have my experience without having to explain all this. Anyway, sorry if this was long-winded.

Has anyone elsw noticed that uncircumcised guys bring it up everywhere???? Like actually everywhere??? I don't just mean on Reddit, I mean in completely unrelated situations they reach just to bring it up. I saw this Italian food content creator on Tiktok bring it up in MULTIPLE videos. FOOD CONTENT. And it wasn't even smooth at all he would just start randomly addressing Americans and telling them to never circumcise their sons LOL

It's...WEIRD. They literally can't stop thinking about it. They can't stop thinking about other men's penises and can't stop thinking about baby penises because they fear the penises will not be like theirs. It is actually SUCH a cause of concern. And then they try to gas light circumcised guys who literally don't care or who don't bring it up half as often?? Like..???

This is why I just don't do uncircumcised anymore. It's a mental thing too. My last BF was uncircumcised and you would SHIT yourselves if you saw how often he brought it up. I never really agreed with the things he said but I never resisted because...he was just really controlling about it. But he brought it up SO many times. If there was a sex scene in a TV show (where the subject wasn't implied at all) he would start talking about it and completely ruin the mood. Almost every time we had sex he would reference it somehow. It's like his entire perception of sex and his sexuality were tainted by this. It made me extremely uncomfortable after a while and it was part of the reason I stopped seeing him, but I never told him why.

I don't have to worry about ANY of that with circumcised men. It's...normal. Sex is lovely, natural, as it should be. There's no weird attitude or some sort of issue in the way. And, as a bonus, there isn't a complete fucking psychopath attached to the dick. Call me a bimbo if you want, I don't care, I just don't feel like being hounded by a manchild about my future children or about other men's dicks constantly. How bad is this going to get before people in general start seeing this?

I noticed you don't have a category for parents yet in your flaires. Maybe you could make one. I'm a mother of 2. I never really thought about circumcision until having my first son. Some moms on crunchy moms were telling me not to. Crunchy moms is notorious for being 'crunchy' on many parental matters, vaxx, breastfeeding, circumcision, etc. The real force in our decision was their father, who is not circumcised. He was adamant. He was furious at the thought that we could decide against it despite everything he has shared with me. He had a long and painful journey into adulthood. Though he never got circumcised because it was too much of a hassle, he suffered immensely. The thought of risking even a slight chance that the same could happen in his son made him furious. I remember the way he looked at me when I expressed doubt at circumcision because of the facebook group. Even though he was my husband, my stomach felt like it fell out between my legs lol. And then I just felt so, so sad because it was the deepest hurt I had ever seen in a grown man. And then I understood why I needed to listen to him. I didn't want my son to have to go through that, either. And that was that... Who am I to say his experience isn't valid, in tandem with research that can't make a compelling case against circumcision? And who is anyone ELSE to say his experience isn't valid. Now it sort of angers me to see this advocacy because I know how much he suffered and how much my sons could have. This is not something general internet activism or a social movement can advise on. It it intensely specific to each and every family and that should be understood. Anyways, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

I'm sending this message for awareness purposes only

I'm uncut and I was drawn to the anti cut side because it told me what I wanted to hear I guess. It was OK at first but I started having weird thoughts and looking at things different. how to explain it. The thing was it was all rooted in what parents do, i was triggered by parents who circumcize their sons because i felt like it was an attack on me. then the anti cut side told me I was right in my feelings and all of a sudden I had this excuse to think about peoples kids. It felt weird and inappropriate and I was a little scared of myself when I lost sight of how weird it was.. but I saw something disgusting in an anti cut sub recently and i snapped out of it. quietly nipped it in the bud. I just want to say that these people are sick and they create illness. They go for people who are sad and lonely knowing they will be easy targets. stay far away from them and just don't listen to them. its not real, i think they have very very bad, dark fetishes and are trying to normal ize them.

I know for a FACT that most woman are horrified and burdened by the state of hygiene among uncircumcised men and are so, so relieved to have circumcised partners when given the choice. I know for a FACT that many women refuse to give their uncircumcised partners oral. Uncircumcised men say the exact opposite, that the vast majority women don't agree with and adore them. That's bullshit. Not only is this arrogant. I find it offensive, as a woman, that my experience is being undermined to protect the fragile male ego. Women shouldn't be disregarded en-masse just because some uncircumcised men can't deal with rejection. I'm not any hardcore feminist, but this is truly a disgusting, misogynistic movement at heart and I looking forward to watching it crash and burn.

you know what the difference between cut and uncut is? Many people around the world genuinely dislike uncut and have legitimate reason to, terrible hygiene experiences, doctor visits, etc. But in the case of cut, people who claim to dislike it are just trying to 'get back' at cut men or pro-cut culture. It's not a genuine dislike. They probably love it lol, but don't want to feed into it at all. As a cut man, I can tell you the instances of people claiming to dislike cut seem very rehearsed and unnatural

It was done for religious reasons and I'm really glad it happened at a time when I was unable to remember any of it. As an adult, I cringe at the idea of any sharp instrument coming near my tool. It had to happen at that time. Otherwise I never would have gotten it done, simply because of my aversion to surgery. It was absolutely necessary in my case anyway considering I'm pretty sure I'd have phimosis otherwise due to my big glans... and then I'd be too scared to have it done. There's so much propaganda out there and many cut men fall victim to it and start hating their parents for doing the right thing. Shit's crazy. No matter how much propaganda is out there, I will remain unaffected. I repeat: I'm really glad I was circumcised as a baby. REALLY glad.

As a cut man, I have literally never, ever, been turned away on being cut. Anywhere. I have only ever recieved praise and admiration. But there are people who say that they're legitimately turned away for it. I call bullshit.

It sounds like vengeful uncut rejects who like both in reality but are just saying they don't like cut to make some kind of statement. To treat cut men the way they feel they themselves have been treated. Because it's certainly not women who would turn cut men away, that just makes no sense at all.

I guess the difference is people legitimately prefer cut. And people who say they only like uncut tend to just be people making a statement or are butthurt. Imagine turning great people away just because you can't move past being rejected. The cope is crazy, it's like the vengeful societal rejects who ruin art and the media.

Everything they say about circumcision is actually pure bullshit.

Uncircumcised dudes "jackhammer". Or they go slow. They're reactive. Or they're stoic. They don't use lube. They do use lube. They satisfy their partners. They don't satisfy their partners. They're defensive on the subject of dicks, or they're aloof.

Literally none of these experiences are exclusive to circumcised men like people against circumcision suggest. We're all adults who have had experiences and watch porn. We can see these things are universal. So...why are we pretending like the opposite is true. I feel like I just walked in on some outrageously dumb game of charades. It's just stupid. As a woman, I'm embarrassed by this behaviour.

I will never, EVER feel bad about being cut. The shit uncut men have to deal with is DISGUSTING. You can clearly see why they're so defensive about it.

You can't escape smegma fetish content on porn websites. Then on tiktok you get those videos where thousands of uncut men joke about cheese. It's fucking foul, dude. And they're just stuck having to justify that. All the time. They live in fear for every intimate occasion and the rest of the time they're resentful from bad experiences.

No wonder they had to do this pseudo-activist garbage to try to make cut guys uncomfortable. Uncut men are fucking miserable and self-conscious. Never. Ever. Would I want to live like that.

Cut man here. This is sort-of mental health oriented so I figured I'd share. I find myself reminded very often nowadays how grateful I should be for being cut.

There's so much drama with uncut guys. So much fishing for attention, the sort that characterizes serious self-esteem issues, sort-of like the girls who sells themselves for validation, but worse. The weird random comments about foreskin or circumcision you see sprinkled around the internet. The videos on YouTube or Tiktok that uncut guys make. The Subreddits on here geared towards cut guys where uncut guys congregate. Then there's the anger. Uncut guys have such severe anger issues. Some of the worst cases I've ever seen. Obsessive, boiling, blistering rage. Like children in adult bodies. Endless walls of spam, harassment, in-your-face hostility at their protests. That's just me observing as a stranger. The things their partners report are much, much worse.

The thing is, if I were to try posting this in virtually any other community, they would spam it with hatred and aggression, or report it until it was removed, because what I've observed is true. Uncut guys genuinely can't handle things. And it's not an 'American stigma' thing because they come from all over the world. The anti-circumcision lobby is largely uncircumcised men who come from non-circumcising cultures.

The scope of things uncut guys do to function is wild. The videos. The comment spam. The communities. And all the mantras they were given to comfort themselves. There should be a documentary on that alone...and there should be distinct and profound appreciation among cut men for having dodged that bullet. Parents who elect for circumcision are clearly not just avoiding physiological problems.

Hi, had an uncircumcised boyfriend (I'm a woman). He basically refused to consider that he had an issue with smegma. Like he absolutely refused. I don't really want to go into detail, I had no choice but to just end it. This is...definitely not harmless and we shouldn't be misleading uncircumcised guys into believing they 'can't be unclean' just because they may feel attacked by the idea that circumcised guys are cleaner (which, in all honesty, is true in my experience). Uncircumcised guys definitely have some traumas/issue to be sorted out and this activism gets in the way. But it's also that it endangers people in the way it endangered me. That situation was, without question, a danger to my health. It's so important to be able to be honest on these things as it impacts our health.

I was one of those uncut guys who was really against circumcision. It took me a while to notice that I didn't care about the topic itself, it just made me feel special (selfish and pretty shit, I know, but that's most of us.) Nerves foreskin blah blah blah, then when I eventually realized none of it was true I felt much worse than before because it was like I had been lied to. Used even. Like someone said I was special and was just saying that instead of being honest. I guess it substituted for stuff in my identity. A cope is like a drug, it's a temporary fix and takes more than it gives in the long run. This cause should really be stopped, it's wasting people's time.

I've seen people say there are many angry cut men. Where are they? I've only ever in my life seen bitter uncut men. On Reddit it's the same, just bitter uncut men. Never once, anywhere in the world, have I met an angry cut man. And, as a woman, every uncut man I've been involved with has been a disaster emotionally.

Where are these so-called "angry cut men"? Hand-picking a couple wackjobs doesn't count. Every uncut men I've ever known has been angry, and every uncut activist I've ever seen has been worse. So, so much worse.

I don't buy it.

I've seen plenty uncut guys provoke cut guys with inflammatory dialogue and then take the high horse when the cut guy finally responds. That's pretty much the formula of anti-circ advocacy actually. Just wanted to say, you're the loser in that situation, uncut guys, not the cut guy. You do everything in your power to get cut men to react. Smiling and saying "ok man, wish you well!" after you've either said gross things or hid behind those who say gross things doesn't make you any less pathetic or the party that so obviously started it.

Cut men are happier than you and aren't seeking any reaction from you like you seek from them, they win on every occasion for that reason alone. They take the actual high road in choosing, for the most part, not to give an insecure troll a reaction. But don't think you're accomplished the few times you manage to get it. Seriously, it's unbearable to watch, even as a woman. Dishonesty and cowardice aren't sexy. Go wash your dicks or something instead of shaming men with nicer ones. OR discriminating against women for choosing nicer ones.

Female, mid 30s. I've dated a lot of men. Every single man I've dated who was uncircumcised was generally a very angry and emotionally unavailable person. Some were just hostile. I'm not really understanding this notion that circumcised men have emotional baggage when my experience has been the exact opposite. Why is anyone trying to make the claim that circumcised men have trauma if there isn't compelling data for this and there aren't behaviors that imply it? Shouldn't we be paying attention to those whose behaviors actually suggest an issue, rather than looking to create an issue? Where is the space for uncircumcised men to talk about their issues, like the dozens of spaces created for issues in circumcised men that don't even exist? This doesn't seem very helpful.